The best references in the Quran

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morda8 wrote:

I am at the moment trying to shed some light on the Quran to a Muslim friend of mine would anyone please give me the best Surahs and verses to refer to?

This person knows Arabic and has a Quran at home.

Thanks

Paarsurrey wrote:

Hi friend morda8

I mention here two short Surahs for you:

The Holy Quran : Chapter 1: Al-Fatihah

[1:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[1:2] All praise belongs to Allah, Lord of all the worlds,
[1:3] The Gracious, the Merciful,
[1:4] Master of the Day of Judgment.
[1:5] Thee alone do we worship and Thee alone do we implore for help.
[1:6] Guide us in the right path —
[1:7] The path of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy blessings, those who have not incurred Thy displeasure, and those who have not gone astray.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=1

The Holy Quran : Chapter 112: Al-Ikhlas

[112:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[112:2] Say, ‘He is Allah, the One;
[112:3] ‘Allah, the Independent and Besought of all.
[112:4] ‘He begets not, nor is He begotten;
[112:5] ‘And there is none like unto Him.’

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=112

These are ones of the most read Surahs of Quran.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

Please quote a passage from Quran where Islam/Quran/Muhammad ‎makes it mandatory ‎for a Muslim to marry with a child and not with an adult?‎

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/07/13/saudi-arabia-and-why-child-marriage-is-‎allowed/‎

‎3. paarsurrey Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
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Hi friends Poma and Pathfinder
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Would you please mention the passage from Quran where Islam/Quran/Muhammad ‎‎makes it mandatory on a Muslim to marry only with a child and not with an adult?
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It is only an optional question; no compulsion.
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All human beings are just like a family in this little village called Earth; I love them all ‎‎and hate none.
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Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Jesus asked his not so brave disciples to sell their clothes they were wearing and buy Swords; and Swords are not used in cutting vegetables in the kitchens

wdednh says:

Muhammad was a peaceful man; he killed nobody; “Paar”

“In Medina,”محمّد Muhammad” united the conflicting tribes, and after eight years of fighting with the Meccan tribes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad

So which is right? Wikipedia or Paarsurrey

thanks

wdednh

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Paarsurrey says;

Hi friend wdednh

The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only Mullah-Islam or Mullah-Shariah; the true face of peaceful and human loving Muhammad and his religion Islam and Islam of the Promised Messiah 1835-1908 is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking moral and peaceful.

The first forty years, i.e. before Muhammad was appointed Messenger Prophet by God Allah YHWH, has been offered as a reasonable argument/challenge in Quran before Nonbelievers-of-Mecca, and they could not deny its truthfulness.

Muhammad had a marvelous record of a peace loving person for 40+13=53 years, he joined in welfare activities if there was any in Mecca, he helped the needy and in distress, he stood for the human cause, he never harmed any person. His record in these 53 years is clean by any standards.

And you know Jesus only lived from 23 to 33 years maximum as per the Catholics Protestants; please correct me if I am wrong; who knows what Jesus would have done to his enemies if he would have lived longer; only God Allah YHWH knows.

So, there is no justifiable comparison. Compare first 33 years of Muhammad with first 33 years of Jesus and Muhammad continued 20 years more, all peaceful, so he is more creditable.

Jesus asked his not so brave disciples to sell their clothes they were wearing and buy Swords; and Sword is not used in cutting vegetables in the kitchens, I think, everybody knows.

Nevertheless, Muhammad was peaceful till the end of his life, only he is not understood correctly. Muhammad was a prince of peace, indeed.

I love Moses, Krishna and Jesus.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Love for all; hatred for none

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Mirage says:

Re: Ahmadi – the real peaceful MuslimsMon Mar 9, 2009 07:0963.194.75.2

Thank you so much for the links. I have been reading about your peaceful beliefs and it is inspiring to see so much love and tolerance in your blog also. May you and your loved ones, and those who share your faith be blessed, uplifted and protected by Allah (God)!

Someday mankind will be ready and mature enough for peace and we will act like the family we have always been. I do not know how this will come about, but I believe it will happen and must happen.

I feel that hatred of others is disrespectful to our Creator, by whatever Name. It is disrespectful because it does not recognize the beauty of the works of our Creator. That is my personal belief.

whitemunara says:

Thanks for your appreciation. I would suggest you reading a small book titled :”Message of Peace” by Second Coming 1835-1908 at link :http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Message-of-Peace.pdf

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Moses and his mother.

Regards

Paarsurrey – an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

P.S. I have added a page “Ask Paarsurrey” on this blog for your questions. Please view it on the side bar of my blog for your peaceful questions and discussions. You are welcome

Who are the ‘skinheads’?

 

 

 

 

 

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Peaceful spread of Islam in France

Originally Posted by Kaninchen:
Football hooliganism (rioting, street fighting) became a target of the neo-Nazis in England in the 1960’s and 70’s as a source of members – predominantly ‘skinheads’. Since then the violent youth of many countries, many of whom gather together in football crowds, have been targeted in the same way.

Paarsurrey says:

Hi

Are the ‘skinheads’ Muslims or Christians Catholics Protestants JWs? Please

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna

Thanks

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Originally Posted by bpcatholic:
You say you are peaceful and love Jesus Mary et cetera…why do you try to make Christianity look bad?

Paarsurrey says:

Hi

I think you are wrong here. I don’t make Christianity look bad.

How could I make them look bad when I love Jesus and Mary? It is true though that the present Christendom is very much mythical in my opinion; and has little (only in name sometimes) image of Jesus and Maryin them.

Nevertheless, I like the Christians rather love them, be they Catholics Protestants JWs etc, as I do love Buddhists and Hindus and Zoroastrians and Jews.

I think there is a lot of real human uplift work to be done in the world with joint and combined efforts of Catholics and peaceful Ahmadi Muslims.

What we can expect from the Atheists and Agnostics? At the most they, the Atheists Agnostics can only play a little part in Scientific and Physical realms of the humans. They don’t claim to believe in Moral and Spiritual realms/faculties of the human beings; that is why their contribution cannot be more than they claim.

Atheism and Agnosticism is the number one problem being faced by Catholics Protestants JWs + 32000 denominations and Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists etc- all Revealed Religions, in Europe, America, and Asia and elsewhere in the world.

It is the combined duty of all the Revealed Religions of the world to work for Physical, Moral and Spiritual uplift of the human beings.

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Pages 30-31 from Message of Peace by Christ/Krishna Second Coming 1835-1908

Christ/Krishna Second Coming 1835-1908 says:

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Message-of-Peace.pdf
Advice for Muslims:

It is essential however that you treat Hindus with sincerity
and kindness and let decent behaviour be your second nature.
Refrain from all such measures as would cause them pain,
except those that are essential or obligatory according to our
faith. Consequently if the Hindus sincerely accept the proposition
of testifying to the truth of our Holy Prophet (may
peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and of having faith
in his truth, then what remains regarding the split on the issue
of cows can be done away with.

Remember if we are
permitted to eat something, it does not follow that we have to
eat it. Everything permissible is not obligatory. There are
many things which we know to be lawful yet we do not
necessarily practice them. To treat Hindus with decency and
kindness is one of the important Islamic injunctions—. If for
the sake of achieving a higher goal one forgoes a right, it will
not be against the spirit of the Divine law. To consider something
to be lawful is one thing, to utilise it is another.

The
spirit of piety requires that you abstain from whatever God has
forbidden. To actually pursue the path of gaining His favour
and to have the welfare of His creation at heart and to treat
others with goodness and sympathy and to respect all the holy
Prophets and Messengers from God, and to accept them as
reformers and to not discriminate between them and to serve
all mankind irrespective of denominations.

This is the essential
requirement of our faith. How can we ever be at peace
with such people who—without justification and without
regard for the fear of Allah—speak of our Holy Prophet,
Hadrat Muhammad (may peace and blessings of Allah be
upon him) with disrespect, and abuse him and refrain not
from the use of foul language? In truth, I declare that it is

MESSAGE OF PEACE 31
possible for us to make peace with the serpents fed on
brackish soil and the wolves of the wilderness, but not with
those who make wanton attacks on our Holy Prophet (may
peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) who is dearer to us
than our lives, our mothers and our fathers. May Allah cause
us to die as Muslims. We are not willing to do anything at the
cost of our faith.

Here, I do not wish to censure any particular people nor
do I intend to hurt anyone’s feelings. But, with a deep sense of
mortification, I observe that Islam, being a religion of peace,
never attacked the founder of any religion. The Qur’an is that
revered book which laid the foundation of peace between
nations and acknowledged the truth of all Prophets belonging
to all the different nations.

It is the Holy Qur’an which enjoys
the unique distinction of teaching us with regards to the
Prophets of the entire world that:21
Therefore, O Muslims, you should declare: We believe in all the
Prophets of God belonging to this world and we do not discriminate
between them as to reject one and accept the others.

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Message-of-Peace.pdf

Muslims should accept Vedas and the Vedic Rishis from God in origin

Paarsurrey submits:

14- The next from- Message of Peace- by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the Promised Messiah/Krishna in Second Coming.

Christ/Krishna in Second Coming 1835-1908 says:

If today the same Hindus embrace the Muslims while pronouncing the kalimah Tayyibah: (i.e There is none worthy of worship except Allah; Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. ) then Muslims would cease to oppose them forthwith. Conversely, if Muslims renounce Islam and embrace Hinduism and start worshipping fire, air, etc., in accordance with the Vedic injunctions (The reference is to today’s distorted Vedic injunctions that have been modified over time by the followers.), then those differences which are labelled as political will suddenly vanish as if they had never existed.

It is thus evident that the underlying factors in all enmities and grudges are the religious differences. It is such religious differences which, since times immemorial, reach a climax and then invariably give way to extensive bloodshed. O Muslims, I say: If Hindus treat you as a different nation merely because of religious differences and you respond to them in the same manner, the matter will not end here. How can you achieve a sound, healthy relationship unless you take appropriate remedial measures against this root cause? It is possible that you may temporarily enjoy a friendship, but only superficially.

The ultimate sincerity of heart, worthy of being called sincerity, can only be achieved if you genuinely change your attitude towards the Vedas and the Vedic Rishis by accepting them to be from God. Likewise, the Hindus should also change their niggardly attitude by testifying to the truth of our beloved Holy Prophet (may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). Remember, and remember it well, that this is the only principle which can establish a genuine truce
between you and the Hindus and this is the only water which can wash away all malice embittering your relationship.

If the hour has finally come when these two nations, who have for so long fallen apart, are destined to be reunited, then God will open up their hearts to this purpose as He has already opened up our hearts to the same. It is essential however that you treat Hindus with sincerity and kindness and let decent behaviour be your second nature.

Tendency to confine the revelation of God to one’s own language or the Book is based merely on prejudice and ignorance

Promised Messiah 1835-1908 says:

Is it not then a strange coincidence, that both these peoples (Jews and Hindus) have followed the same path in their dogmatic assertions? Likewise, the followers of many other religions entertain similar views, as for example, the Zoroastrians, who claim that their religion originated billions of years before the Vedic revelation. From this it transpires that the tendency (to confine the revelation of God to one’s own language or the Book) is based merely on prejudice and ignorance. This is further abetted by the fact that in the dark ages of the past, people had no access to the information concerning people and countries beyond the boundaries of their homelands. This lack of knowledge on their part led them to draw the wrong conclusions. They had witnessed that God had bestowed upon them a Divine teaching in the form of a Book, and they knew that Messengers of God had been selected from among themselves; hence their erroneous impression that they had been the only people so favourably treated by God, while the rest of the world was unfortunate in being deprived of this blessing.

This erroneous view has done a lot of damage to the world, and it has worked as a seed of mutual enmity and malice which continues to grow. For a long time, it so happened that a people remained hidden from others and one country remained concealed and veiled from the other to the extent that the scholars of the Arya faith used to believe that there was no inhabitation beyond the Himalayas.

When God lifted the veil, it was already too late for them to mend. By this time they were already fixed in their prejudices. All the false distinctive features which people had attributed to their own revealed books, divines, and messengers, had become deeply rooted in their hearts and had become permanently fixed like the etching on stones. Each people had the same misconception that God’s capital was situated in their country. Savage behaviour was predominant among most people of that age. Hence, to them the sword seemed a natural instrument for settling accounts with those people who dared to oppose the old order. Who then would dare to cool down their self-aggrandisement to create an atmosphere conducive to mutual peace?

Paarsurrey says:

The comments are welcome here; even of those who differ with me.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim