Indus Valley Civilization

February 24, 2017

It is essential that Veda/Yajurveda flora and fauna mentioned in its chapters should be analyzed to verify which land they were written.
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    The Dravidians don’t agree with it. Aryan Civilization and the IVC features are different:

    The Vedas describe the wheels of the Chariots with spokes, but the wheels that are seen on the seals and vehicles of clay in Indus valley do not have wheels with spokes.2

    Following analysation of Sir John Marshall on the Indus Valley Civilization here are given some clues.

    1. “The picture of Indo-Aryan society portrayed in the Vedas is that of a partly pastoral, partly agricultural people, who have not yet emerged from the village state, who have no knowledge of life in cities or of the complex economic organization which such life implies, and whose houses are nondescript affairs constructed largely of bamboo.

    At Mohenjo-daro and Harappa, on the other hand, we have densely populated cities with solid, commodious houses of brick equipped with a adequate sanitation, bathrooms, wells, and other amenities.

    2. The metals which the Indo-Aryans used in the time of the Rigveda are gold and copper or bronze; but a little late, in the time of the Yajurveda and Atharvaveda, these metals are supplemented by silver and iron.

    Among the Indus people silver is commoner than gold, and utensils and vessels are sometimes made of stone – a relic of the Neolithic Age – as well as of copper and bronze. Of iron there is no vestige.

    Is Indus Valley Civilization Dravidian
    And there are many others given on the above link.
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    “there is no pre-Vedic or post-Vedic period”

    One certainly does not find it convenient to talk in these terms, but since when date classification are made, the dates have no certainties due to revisions made in them while discussing the Pre-History period.
    For the History period it is OK, as their are some written record to confirm them.

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    Paarsurrey wrote:

    I am not a Quranist, yet every Muslim only considers Quran as Word of G-d, and Hadith the sayings of Muhammad.

    Quran existed continuous in its present form since it was revealed on Muhammad.
    Hadith was collected 250/300 years after Muhammad.
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    One poster commented:

    “Samhitas, Brahmanas, Aranyakas and Upanishads”
    Only Vedas are revealed, all others don’t form the revealed scripture and belong to Post Veda Period and are un-revealed. PleaseRegards

    Post by: paarsurrey, Jan 12, 2017 in forum: Religious Debates
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  15. It has been strongly contested by others:

    • There is no reference in Rigveda to the big cities or important places of the IVC.
    • There is no evidence in Rigveda about the Indus peoples’ architectural skills.
    • There is no evidence in Rigveda about the tubed drainages found in the Indus valley.
    • There is no evidence in Rigveda about water reservoirs or ponds found in Indus valley.
    • There is no evidence in Rigveda about water urn burials found in Indus valley.

    Why the Rig Vedas Cannot Overlap with the Indus Valley Civilization
    There are many other points mentioned in the above article. One may like to visit that site to reconcile the issue.
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Muhammad was never trained to be a soldier

February 24, 2017

Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss.
Muhammad was never trained to be a soldier. He was a tradesman and had no big ambitions. He was busy in himself, praying in reclusiveness and was a happy person .

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One may also like to read more to know that Muhammad only defended himself and his followers for co-existence, that was denied by the Meccans to them :

The following are some of the events relating to the major wars the Prophet was involved in:

Persecution of Muslims in Mecca, and Muslim Migration to Medina

“The Prophet began receiving revelations from God in 610 CE in Mecca.  As a result, the Prophet criticized the Meccans for worshipping idols and for mistreating the weak.  Therefore, the Meccans became hostile to the Muslims and subjected the Muslims to physical abuse.  When some of the Muslims escaped to Abyssinia, the Meccans followed them and unsuccessfully tried to convince the Abyssinians to turn the Muslims over to the Meccans.  In September 622 CE, the Meccans tried to assassinate the Prophet.  The Prophet and his followers escaped to Medina at the invitation of a group of people from Medina who had become Muslim.  The Prophet and his followers left their homes and all their property in Mecca and fled to Medina; the Meccans confiscated the Muslims’ property.”

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/muslimsforasafeamerica/2013/01/why-did-prophet-muhammad-go-to-war/

8 Rules of Engagement Taught by the Prophet Muhammad:

http://ilmfeed.com/8-rules-of-engagement-taught-by-the-prophet-muhammad/

Islam entered Bharat (India) very peacefully in the times of Muhammad

February 24, 2017

Muhammad did not invade India:
Islam entered Bharat very peacefully in the times of Muhammad:
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Cheraman Juma Masjid at Kodungallur

Islam arrived in Kerala through Arab traders during the time of Prophet Muhammad(AD 609 – AD 632). Kerala has a very ancient relation with the middle east even during the Pre-Islamic period. Muslim merchants (Malik Deenar) settled in Kerala by the 7th century AD and introduced Islam. The Cheraman Juma Masjid said to be the very first mosque in India situated in Kodungallur Taluk, in state of Kerala. According to a tradition, Cheraman Perumal, the last of the Chera kings, became Muslim and traveled to visit prophet Muhammad and this event helped the spread of Islam.
Islam in Kerala – Wikipedia

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Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss

February 24, 2017

Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss
Seeing the figures of human causalities in “the most murderous century ever” one must note here that Muhammad spread his religion and peace with the minimum human loss, if he and his followers would have not been attacked aggressively; there would have been no human loss.
Muhammad had no intention to capture any lands or to be a king.Right? Please

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Did Buddha believe in the hereafter?

February 22, 2017

“Gospel of Buddha mentions, that Buddha went to heaven to meet his mother who had died.
It does reflect, however, that Buddha believed in the hereafter.”

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paarsurrey said:
It is a matter of revealed religions.
Well, Atheism are not affected, they neither believe in G-d nor in the hereafter. They are free to enjoy free-will, no compulsion.
Gospel of Buddha mentions, that Buddha went to heaven to meet his mother who had died.
It does reflect, however, that Buddha believed in the hereafter.
Please correct me if I am wrong. Please
Anybody, please
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I find that Buddha went to heaven to meet his mother who had died in many a sites belonging to Buddha:
“The king of this realm is called Indra. The Indra who was king at that time was also Buddha’s disciple and he invited Buddha to go there. So Buddha went to benefit his mother and also, at Indra’s request, to benefit the other gods living there. He stayed three months, and then returned on this day.”
Buddha’s Return from Heaven Day – Kadampa Buddhism
So Buddha believed in after life. Right? Please

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Paarsurrey responded:

But Buddha would have not gone to the heavens to meet his mother:

  • If Buddha had not considered it worthwhile and Buddha would have not given it full consideration
  • If Buddha had not believed in heaven
  • If Buddha had not believed in afterlife
  • If Buddha had not believed in reward for the good-people and punishment for the wrong doers
  • This could not happen if Buddha had not believed in ONE to judge the people

Right? Please
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Which God is truthful?

February 22, 2017

“Dawkins and the like are sure laymen on Revealed Religions or God.
The believers of Revealed Religions consider the non-revealed religions, with the same group as Atheism or the like, as superstitious, denying reality/Truth.
Unless of course if they justify their “no-god”/many gods position/no-position with positive and reasonable arguments without reference to the believers.”

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Which God is truthful?
This is an internal subject of the believers from which-ever God/gods they select for themselves on their own choice and responsibility.
Dawkins and the like are sure laymen on Revealed Religions or God.
The believers of Revealed Religions consider the non-revealed religions, with the same group as Atheism or the like, as superstitious, denying reality/Truth.
Unless of course if they justify their “no-god”/many gods position/no-position with positive and reasonable arguments without reference to the believers.
Right? Please

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One poster wrote:

“God is an unknowable essence and the best way we can know God’s will is through His chosen Messengers or Manifestations. These include the Abrahamic Faiths but also Buddhism and Hinduism. When religions become old or they no longer have reliable sacred texts to refer to the light becomes obscured.”

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I agree with one on what I have colored in magenta. Please
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One poster wrote:
Response from Paarsurrey:
No value is to be given because one is specialized in another subject “say science”.
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Response from Paarsurrey:
It is based on Revelation, it is not superstition.
While Atheism is neither based on Revelation nor on science.
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A poster commented:
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Beauty and all other positive verities that we perceive belong to Him, and He (One G-d) has let us perceive them . Please
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Be a believer and one could know the Truth of reality. Please
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Which God is truthful?

One-God whatever name in a language the people may have. Yahweh, Ahura Mazda, Brahman, Allah. The attributes decide, if they all mean ONE. Please
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A Hinduism/Atheism poster commented:
Response from Paarsurrey:
Please quote from Yajurveda to support one’s stance.
Please give all the attributes of Brahman from Veda.
Anybody, please
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Isra and Mairaj are spiritual visions

February 22, 2017

“Isra and Mairaj are spiritual visions and have nothing to do with superstitions.
In Isra Muhammad was informed as to how Islam will be revived in latter days by coming of Messiah and Mahdi and the End Times Reformer of all revealed religions.”

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“Isra”

Isra and Mairaj are spiritual visions and have nothing to do with superstitions.
In Isra Muhammad was informed as to how Islam will be revived in latter days by coming of Messiah and Mahdi and the End Times Reformer of all revealed religions including the religion of Veda and Krishna. And it has taken place exactly.
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Hinduism :Supreme Being or Supreme God

January 29, 2017
Supreme Being or Supreme God is a term for God in Hinduism
Ishvara means God, Supreme Being, personal god, or special Self.[2][3][4]
In Hinduism, the term is used by several traditions. It is used by the Vaishnavite traditions in reference to Vishnu/Krishna,[7][8] and by the Shaiva tradition in reference to Shiva.[9]
In ShaivismIshvara is synonymous with “Shiva“, sometimes as Maheshvara or Parameshvara meaning the “Supreme lord”, or as an Ishta-deva (personal god).[5] In Vaishnavism, it is synonymous with Vishnu.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishvara
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Being
Svayam Bhagavān (Sanskritsvayam bhagavān, lit. ” The Lord Himself “) is a Sanskrit theological term for the concept of absolute representation of God as Bhagavan. He is the one eternal Supreme Being called BrahmaVishnuShiva and Trimurti.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svayam_Bhagavan
In HinduismBrahman (/brəhmən/; ब्रह्मन्) connotes the highest Universal Principle, the Ultimate Reality in the universe.[1][2][3] In major schools of Hindu philosophy, it is the material, efficient, formal and final cause of all that exists.[2][4][5] It is the pervasive, genderless, infinite, eternal truth and bliss which does not change, yet is the cause of all changes.[1][6][7] Brahman as a metaphysical concept is the single binding unity behind the diversity in all that exists in the universe.[1][8]
Brahman is a Vedic Sanskrit word, and it is conceptualized in Hinduism, states Paul Deussen, as the “creative principle which lies realized in the whole world”.[9] Brahman is a key concept found in the Vedas,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman

Is Quran self-explanatory?

October 28, 2016
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Yes. It needs nothing to explain its contents and the meaning. Following peculiarities of Quran may be noted, please:
1. Quran is self-explanatory, it explains its meaning in the context verses, some verses preceding and some verses following of the verse in question, to make itself clear Quran explains the subjects in different verses of Quran in different styles. Its diction also becomes clear if one sees all the words of the word-roots used in Quran. Quran doesn’t need anything else in the exterior.
2. Quran corrects the history, rather history correcting it. Sure, the verses of Quran were revealed on a particular occasion, so all of it was practically required by the humans but the verses were arranged as per the guidance provided to Muhammad by G-d as to where they should find their placed while memorizing the Quran/Recitation and in the scripture that was written immediately by the appointed scribes.
3. Quran does make a constructive, objective and normative/principled criticism of the other Word Revealed, the people who believed in them and their tenets and as such corrects the narratives of Torah and other revealed scriptures of all religions of the world in some with names and others in generic formations.
4. Quran does include in it lasting teachings given to the past prophets that has similarity with Quran and also gives teachings that are not found in the past prophets and it is reasonable.
5. Quran confirms the truthfulness of the founders of other religions and binds Quran’s followers to accept them truthful and makes it one of the basic articles of faith of Islam. This way Quran elevates other revealed religions.
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Quran has an amazing system

October 27, 2016

https://www.onfaith.co/discussion/quran-has-an-amazing-system

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Author :paarsurrey
Like the universe has a system in it, likewise Quran has a system in it. One cannot create the universe, similarly one cannot create the system Quran has for the ethical, moral and spiritual issues of humanity. it has claims as well as the reasons in it, impossible for a human to do it. Muhammad or any other person could not have authored Quran. it is authored by G-d whatever the proper name of Him in any language that a people speak. Regards