Vedas are not eternal: A detailed Analysis

August 26, 2016


Written by Ibn Muhammad

Majority of  the Hindu and Non Hindu scholars of Vedas accept Vedas to be of a finite date. Only a minority of Hindus especially the Arya Samajis claim that the Vedas are eternal and beginningless. This they try to explain only by mere conjecture and some philosophical gymnastics. As far as the tangible evidence is concerned, there is no reason to believe in this myth of Vedas being eternal. We will  analyse this topic  from many angles and thus build a coherent view that Vedas are of a finite date. When the finite age of the Vedas is established, it will bring to rest many false theories and questions that are built on this supposition that Vedas are eternal.

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Are humans born with a default atheistic position?

April 12, 2016

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The mute scientific method!

April 6, 2016
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I never said that religion is in subordination to science. I always say that religion and science are in different domains, they don’t necessarily contradict one another. Science deals the material and physical domains, religion deals in moral and spiritual domains.
The science deals the temporary, religion deals the lasting truth.
Science deals the relative, religion deals the absolute truth.
Science did not create any word or any iota/atom in the universe, it only borrowed words and symbols or integers without which it would have been mute and have been incapacitated to do anything.

Thread: “Was Muhammad The Greatest Moral Example?”

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Name Peter and its reality

April 6, 2016

Neither Jesus gave him the name Peter nor Simon himself changed it:
“Jesus gave Saint Peter (whose given name was Simon) the name Kephas or Cephas meaning “stone” inAramaic.[2]
It is a usual trick of Christianity, names are never translated from the original language.
One may like to see the following cassette from YouTube :
Muhammed in the bible – Ahmed Deedat 2 of 11

Please set the timer @8:24 for the name “Peter” and its reality.

Thread:”Ask a Catholic”


Was Islam spread by the sword?

April 5, 2016
  1. A country could go to war for many political and other reasons, not necessarily for conversion to one’s religion.
  2. People don’t change their religion to the religion of the invaders, it is an altogether different phenomenon not linked with the battles or wars.
  3. Alexander conquered a large part of Asia, nobody changed their religion because of it.
  4. When I quote from Wikipedia, I don’t change anything written there even if it is against my religion because I could argue against those things reasonably as I am doing now.
  5. If people of Cyprus could convert to Islam peacefully now as I have given examples when there is no war going on there for conversion to Islam, that amply proves that it had happened at that time in the past also peacefully.
  6. The invaders didn’t remain there all the time since invasion. If people of Cyprus converted to Islam under sword, they could have reverted to their previous faith anytime later when there was no sword on their head.

What kept them steadfast on Islam? It is the truth of Islam/Quran/Muhammad that bound them and glued them to this faith. Right?

Thread: “Was Islam spread by the sword?”


Paul faked/forged/copied the idea of dying on the Cross and the resurrection to invent a god for “Christianity

March 30, 2016
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Paarsurrey wrote:

So Paul faked/forged/copied the idea of dying on the Cross and the resurrection to invent a god for “Christianity”:

This religion* , cloaked in mystery and secrecy, has captivated the imaginations of scholars for generations. Many facts discovered sheds vital light on the cultural dynamics that led to the rise of Christianity. The National Geographic Society’s book “Great Religions of the World,” page 309 writes; “By Jesus’ time, East and West had mingled here for three centuries. Down columns of boulevards walked Roman soldiersloyal to the Persian god Mithras.” Mithras was a Persian deity. He was also the most widely venerated god in the Roman Empire at the time of Jesus. The Catholic Encyclopedia as well as the early Church Fathers found this religion of Mithras very disturbing, as there are so many similarities between the two religions, as follows:
1) Hundreds of years before Jesus, according to the Mithraic religion, three Wise Men of Persia came to visit the baby savior-god Mithra, bring him gifts of gold, myrrh and frankincense.
2) Mithra was born on December 25 as told in the “Great Religions of the World”, page 330; “…it was the winter solstice celebrated by ancients as the birthday of Mithraism’s sun god”.
3) According to Mithraism, before Mithra died on a cross, he celebrated a “Last Supper with his twelve disciples, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac.
4) After the death of Mithra, his body was laid to rest in a rock tomb.
5) Mithra had a celibate priesthood.
6) Mithra ascended into heaven during the spring (Passover) equinox (the time when the sun crosses the equator making night and day of equal length).…iours/mithras/2013/07/mithras-christianity-2/
*Paul’s invented “Christianity”.


Thread: “Empty Tomb / Empty Coffin”.

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God took the responsibility of securing the text of Quran, verbal as well as in writing form and also its meaning

March 29, 2016
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With the advent of Muhammad, humanity took a turn and a new era ushered in, G-d took the responsibility of guarding the text of Word of His Revelation and it meaning, so those whose conscience is lacking something, they could benefit from it in all times. This is a peculiarity of Islam/Quran/Muhammad not found in other religions, their scriptures and their founders.


Thread: “Did you read Quran neutrally?”

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Did Moses Really Write the Torah?

March 22, 2016
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Torah was mostly a verbal transmission and later, rather very late that it was known to be a book:

Did Moses Really Write the Torah?

“It was only once Judea fell under Greek culture that a book market began to develop and the author began to be of importance. The first Hebrew book to state clearly who its author was is the Wisdom of Sirach, written in the beginning of the second century BCE by a Jewish scribe named Ben Sira, well after the Greek conquest.
Thus an identity for the writer of the Pentateuch became sought. But how did the misunderstanding that it was Moses arose? That brings us to the second change – a semantic one.”
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A book, therefore, has not necessarily to be bound in covers (of leather etc). Is it?


Thread: “How does (did) one know who has (had) authored a book?”

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Please don’t make science the donkey of the Anti-Christ

February 24, 2016
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Paarsurrey wrote:

I am not against science, I support it in its realm of the physical and the material. Those who believe in science/history (etc) blindly are just like those who believe in religion blindly or even worse.
I was just pointing out the 100% fraud of the so called pseudo-science/history people, more specific their eulogizers, in the specific domain of religion where science has nothing to say. Science cannot say anything scientific and or valid to the purpose of life, only revealed religion can tell it.
Please don’t make science the donkey of the Anti-Christ which runs with fire in its belly.

Religion not named till the advent of Muhammad

February 11, 2016
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Paarsurrey wrote:

I don’t think any prophets like Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster,Moses, Socrates, Jesus gave any specific and meaningful name to the religion from G-d; they left it to be named by Muhammad- the Last of the Prophets, in status,as it was revealed to him from G-d and named by Him and is generic for any of them individually and collectively.

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