Similarities in life accounts and teachings of Buddha and Jesus

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paarsurrey Wrote:

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Originally Posted by Agnimitra
Well, the reason I baulk at letting this theory bite the dust , is because the similarities do not seem to stop at mere moral codes and ethical injunctions.

Not only does it not limit to morality, it is also pervasive through the biography of both the men.

To strictly follow chronology , I would request you to examine the birth of Jesus and Buddha first. I dont want to take too much at a time

Compare the names of the mothers– Queen Maya and Ma(r)ya.
Mâyâ was later regarded as a virgin and King Suddhodhana as a stepfather, just like Joseph.

Both of them are visited by celestial beings (an angel and a white elephant who foretells the birth of the savior )

Buddha is born while his mother is in a travel, under a tree. Jesus is also born while in travel.

Buddha emits a dazzling light and Jesus elicits a blue star.
Buddha receives homage from Gandharvas and Devas in the Sky. Jesus gets homage from angels in the sky.

Buddha is called son of God (devaputra), descended from Brahma. Jesus also claims lineage from “Abraham”.Compare the names “Abraham” and “Brahma”

Both are thus of royal descent. Jesus is called son of David and Buddha is of the great Ishkavu dynasty

Wise men gather in both cases.

In a text called Nidhanakatha, a noble woman says of the Budhda “Verily, that mother is blessed, who has given birth to a man like this one”.
Luke 11.27 talks of a woman who praises Mary –“Blessed is the womb, that bare thee and the paps which thou hast suckled.”

Of course, there are differences like Maya dying seven days later . But I do think all the above are too protruding from the coincidental.

For more similarities in life accounts and teachings of Buddha and Jesus one may like to read quite a few pages from the book “Jesus in India”:

“SECTION 2
Evidence from books on Buddhism”

Let it be clear that Buddhist scriptures have made available to us evidence of various kinds, which, on the whole, is enough to prove that Jesus (on whom be peace) must have come to the Punjab and Kashmir, etc. I set out this evidence herein, so that all impartial people may first study it, and then by arranging it as a connected account in their minds, may themselves come to the aforesaid conclusion. Here is the evidence. First: the titles given to the Buddha are similar to the titles given to Jesus. Likewise, the events of the life of Buddha resemble those of the life of Jesus. The reference here, however, is to the Buddhism of places within the boundaries of Tibet, like Leh, Lhasa, Gilgit and Hams, etc., which are the places about which it is proved that they were visited by Jesus.”

Pages 83-99
“Jesus in India” by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

Click to access Jesus-in-India.pdf

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Jesus was not to give up the ghost on the accursed wood; was he?

Hi

Let it be noted that though Christians believe that Jesus (peace be on him) after his arrest through the betrayal by Judas Iscariot, and crucifixion — and resurrection — went to heaven, yet, from the Holy Bible, it appears that this belief of theirs is altogether wrong. Matthew (chapter 12, verse 40) says that just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the fish, so the Son of Man shall be three days and three nights in the bowels of the earth.

Now it is clear that Jonah did not die in the belly of the fish; the utmost that happened was that he was in a swoon or a fit of fainting. The holy books of God bear witness that Jonah, by the grace of God, remained alive in the belly of the fish, and came out alive; and his people ultimately accepted him. If then Jesus (on whom be peace) had died in the belly of the ‘fish’, what resemblance could there be between a dead man and the one who was alive, and how could a living one be compared with one dead?

The truth rather is, that as Jesus was a true prophet and as he knew that God, whose beloved he was, would save him from an accursed death, he made a prophecy in the form of a parable, revealed to him by God, in which he hinted that he would not die on the Cross, nor would he give up the ghost on the accursed wood; on the contrary, like the prophet Jonah, he would only pass through a state of swoon. In the parable he had also hinted that he would come out of the bowels of the earth and would then join the people and, like Jonah, would be honoured by them.

So this prophecy too was fulfilled; for Jesus, coming out of the bowels of the earth, went to his tribes who lived in the eastern countries, Kashmir and Tibet, etc. viz. the ten tribes of the Israelites who 721 years1 before Jesus, had been taken prisoner from Samaria by Shalmaneser, King of Assur, and had been taken away by him.

Ultimately, these tribes came to India and settled in various parts of that country. Jesus at all events must have made this journey; for the divine object underlying his advent was that he should meet the lost Jews who had settled in different parts of India; the reason being that these in fact were the lost sheep of Israel who had given up even their ancestral faith in these countries, and most of whom had adopted Buddhism, relapsing, gradually into idolatry.

Dr. Bernier, on the authority of a number of learned people, states in his Travels that the Kashmiris in reality are Jews who in the time of the dispersal in the days of the King of Assur had migrated to this country.
http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/ch1.html
I think it is reasonable and it is fom the Bible

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

I respect your religion.
You are welcome to differ with me with reasaons

Jesus: three misconceptions allayed about him

First: Quran does not mention Jesus’ face was changed with Judas; it is a very wrong conception. Judas’ name is mentioned nowhere in Quran.

Second: Jesus neither died on Cross nor he was risen to heaven or sky from the Cross.
Quran mentions:
[23:51] And We made the son of Mary and his mother a Sign, and gave them shelter on an elevated land of green valleys and springs of running water.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=23&verse=50

This verse hints towards Kashmir; where Jesus Yeshua Isa spent his later life and he died there and is buried there.

Third: Quran nowhere mentions about physical descent of Jesus. One who is placed in heaven does not come back to this world. Symbolic or metaphoric Second Coming of him has taken place in the form of the Promised Messiah 1835-1908. This is understandable and reasonable.

One could  view following documentaries in this connection:

1. BBC Documentary

 

 2.     Jesus in Kashmir (India)-Documentary by Indian Govt.

 

How old was Jesus Christ when he died?

Jesus was though put on Cross, yet he was delivered from the cross in near-dead position.
There are some Muslim traditions which say Jesus died a natural and peaceful death in Srinagar, Kashmir, India, at the age of 120/125 years.

Jesus got a new life after the tribulations faced by him on the Cross. By the grace of God Allah YHWH he survived a cursed death on Cross. Without dying Jesus got a new life; this is a metaphoric usage, in my opinion, in all the language of the world. If one is sick with a deadly disease or faces a trauma in real life, when there is no hope for survival, it is commonly said that that person has got a new life. It is never taken as literal or physical life from the actually dead.

Please see the following documentaries which show that Jesus did not die on the Cross; he migrated to India.

BBC Documentary

Jesus in India

	Jesus in India Being an account of Jesus’ escape from death on the cross and of his journey to India by Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, The Promised Messiah and Mahdi Founder of the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam Read the book online in HTML format or PDF format . Read it in Urdu (Ruhani Khazain Volume 15) |Arabic
Table of Contents
Preface | Introduction Chapter One	Chapter Two Chapter Three	Chapter Four Appendix
This is an English version of an Urdu treatise written by the Holy Founder of the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam, Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908). The theme is the escape of Jesus from death on the cross, and his journey to India in search of the lost tribes of Israel. Christian as well as Muslim scriptures, and old medical and historical books including ancient Buddhist records, provide evidence about this journey. Jesus is shown to have reached Afghanistan, and to have met the Jews who had settled there after deliverance from the bondage of Nebuchadnezzar. From Afghanistan Jesus went on to Kashmir, where other Israelite tribes had settled. There he made his home, and there in time he died; his tomb has been found in Srinagar. Electronic version by http://www.alislam.org

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/index.html

Digging Deep…

Paarsurrey says:

For the temple of Solomon; they Kashmir people claim that it is located there; this should also be looked into.
I quote from Wikipedia in this connection:

“The hill is also called by the muslim name Takht i Suleiman (Throne of Solomon) and the temple also called “Throne of Solomon.”[3][4]
The temple is significant to claims of the Ahmadiyya movement since Ahmadiyya writer Khwaja Nazir Ahmad in Jesus in Heaven on Earth (1956, p407-409) used a photograph of two inscriptions purportedly from the Takht-i-Sulaiman, Srinagar to support Ghulam Ahmad’s claims in Masih Hindustan-mein(1899) that Jesus had visited Kashmir.[5] However one of the populist writers supporting Nazir Ahmad’s claims, the German esoteric writer Holger Kersten, claims that the Buddhists of Ladakh believe the Throne of Solomon to have been the abode not of the Hindu holy man Adi Shankara, but of the Buddhist holy man Padmasambhava, a Kashmiri who took Mahayana Buddhism from Kashmir to Tibet in the eighth century. Kersten does not give a source for this claim.[6] [7] Many Buddhist and Hindu temples were fully or partially islamized during the Mughal period of Kashmir’s history and had Buddhist traditions adapted to islamic traditions.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shankaracharya_Temple

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Ceremony at Cana; was it feast of Jesus’ marriage with Mary Magdalene?

There are people who believe that Mary Magdalene was a wife of Jesus. And they say that the phenomenon of increasing of wine or turning water into wine was the event of Jesus marriage with Mary Magdalene. I don’t think that Jesus ever drank wine though.

I once read something of which I don’t have a reference now that she also joined Jesus in his travels towards India and the neighboring countries when he had to migrate from Judea after the event of crucifixion, in which he survived. They say that during the travels she died in Quetta and is buried there; maybe Marri tribe is after her name.

Jesus later married to other women also in India. One Pashtun tribe named Issa Khel or sons of Issa or Jesus is said to be from his off-spring. Jesus also got married in Kashmir; there are people in Srinagar who say that they are from his lineage; after all Jesus was a male human being and there was no restriction on him from his Jewish tradition not to marry. Jesus was not a Christian. Jesus was not a god or son of god; he was just a human being; so there should be no surprise in his getting married and having children.

Of course one has to make a search or research to believe or not to believe in a thing.

When Jesus came to India!

Soumitra Chatterjee and Aparna Sen on the sets of The Unknown Story of the Messiah. Picture by Aranya Sen

From the daily Telegraph of India

1. “Subhrajit Mitra’s The Unknown Story of the Messiah lives off the popular alternative theory that Jesus had travelled to India after crucifixion, along with Mother Mary, studied Hinduism and Buddhism, and died in Kashmir where he was entombed.”

2. “My docu-feature is an assimilation of all these myths and stories,’ says Subhrajit, aware that his work will kick up a controversy. ‘There is so much supporting evidence in favour of this theory in the Hindu and Buddhist scriptures and the courtroom records of Indian kings. There are references in the Quran too. But no scientific work has been done on this as yet’ .’ ”

RESHMI SENGUPTA
http://forums.about.com/ab-hinduism/messages?lgnF=y&msg=1417.1
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050922/asp/calcutta/story_5267480.asp

A matter of research for those who have an open mind.

Bleeding obvious that Jesus death did not occur on the Cross

Paarsurrey says:

I appreciate your post.

It is bleeding obvious that Jesus death did not occur on the Cross.

Jews did try to kill Jesus on the cross and put him on it but Jesus was delivered from it in near-dead position.

What happened to Jesus is mentioned in the Fifth Gospel; according to it Jesus travelled to India and later died there after a long life of about 120 years; one may like to access the following link:

http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/may2006/fifth_gospel.html

The Tomb of Yuz-Asaph

The Tomb of Yuz-Asaph is situated in Anzimar, Khanyar, Srinagar, the summer capital of Kashmir. Srinagar, which means the city of the sun, is an ancient city. It is divided into parts, i.e. the old city and the new city and the tomb is situated in the old city. The people of Kashmir call it Roza-bal, meaning the site of the tomb, and declare that it is a tomb of Yuz-Asaph. This prophet came to Kashmir 1000 years ago, and preached the same parables of Christ.189 Popular local to tradition connects it with the tomb of Jesus Christ.190 Some say it is the tomb of the Prophet of “the people of the Book.”191

http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/may2006/fifth_gospel.html

A good point of research indeed

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Who Killed Jesus?

In fact, nobody killed Jesus; he died a natural and peaceful death in Kashmir and is buried at Mohallah Khanyar, Srinagar, India.

Jews tried to kill him on the cross; but they did not succeed.

Please view the BBC documentary and decide for yourself.