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Islam entered Bharat (India) very peacefully in the times of Muhammad

February 24, 2017

Muhammad did not invade India:
Islam entered Bharat very peacefully in the times of Muhammad:
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Cheraman Juma Masjid at Kodungallur

Islam arrived in Kerala through Arab traders during the time of Prophet Muhammad(AD 609 – AD 632). Kerala has a very ancient relation with the middle east even during the Pre-Islamic period. Muslim merchants (Malik Deenar) settled in Kerala by the 7th century AD and introduced Islam. The Cheraman Juma Masjid said to be the very first mosque in India situated in Kodungallur Taluk, in state of Kerala. According to a tradition, Cheraman Perumal, the last of the Chera kings, became Muslim and traveled to visit prophet Muhammad and this event helped the spread of Islam.
Islam in Kerala – Wikipedia

Regards

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Was Hinduism Invented by Britons?

July 21, 2015

Was Hinduism Invented?

Paarsurrey quotes for the public interest and benefit:

Quote:

Was Hinduism Invented?: Britons, Indians, and the Colonial Construction of Religion
Brian K. Pennington

Is “Hinduism” a legitimate term for the widely varying religious practices of India that are commonly called by that name? The appearance of “religion” as a category comprising a set of practices and beliefs allegedly found in every culture dates from the modern period, emerging as Europe expanded trade abroad and established its first colonial relations in the 17th and 18th centuries. Hinduism emerged in the encounter between modernity’s greatest colonial power, Great Britain, and the jewel of her imperial crown, India. Around the turn of the 19th century, officials of the British colonial state and Christian missionaries helped cement the idea that regional and sectarian traditions in India possessed a sufficient coherence to be construed as a single, systematic religion. This encounter was deeply shaded by the articulation and development of the concept of “religion”, and it produced the now common idea that Hinduism is a unified religion. The Bengal Presidency, home of Calcutta — capital of colonial India and center of economic gravity in the eastern hemisphere — emerged as the locus of ongoing and direct contact between Indians and colonial officials, journalists, and missionaries. Drawing on a large body of previously untapped literature, including documents from the Church Missionary Society and Bengali newspapers, this book presents a portrait of the process by which “Hinduism” came into being. It argues against the common idea that the modern construction of religion in colonial India was simply a fabrication of Western Orientalism and missionaries. Rather, it involved the active agency and engagement of Indian authors who interacted, argued, and responded to British authors over key religious issues such as image-worship, satī, tolerance, and conversion. This book retells the story of Christians’ and Hindus’ reception of each other in the early 19th century in a way that takes seriously the power of their religious worldviews to shape the encounter itself and help produce the very religions that colonialism thought it “discovered”. While post-colonial theory can illuminate issues of power and domination, the history of religions reminds us of the continuing importance of the sacred and spiritual dimensions of the peoples under colonial rule.” Unquote

http://www.oxfordscholarship.com/view/10.1093/0195166558.001.0001/acprof-9780195166552

Charter of Human Rights: Cyrus-the Great Persian Prophet of the One-True-God, a Zoroastrian

May 11, 2014

Cyrus the Great.

Photo:Courtesy Wikipedia

http://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2014/05/08/christian-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-15256

JOHN ZANDE says:
May 10, 2014 at 4:31 pm
Did he?
In 539 B.C., the armies of Cyrus the Great, the first king of ancient Persia, conquered the city of Babylon. But it was his next actions that marked a major advance for Man. He freed the slaves, declared that all people had the right to choose their own religion, and established racial equality. These and other decrees were recorded on a baked-clay cylinder in the Akkadian language with cuneiform script.

Known today as the Cyrus Cylinder, this ancient record has now been recognized as the world’s first charter of human rights. It is translated into all six official languages of the United Nations and its provisions parallel the first four Articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

From Babylon, the idea of human rights spread quickly to India, Greece and eventually Rome. There the concept of “natural law” arose, in observation of the fact that people tended to follow certain unwritten laws in the course of life, and Roman law was based on rational ideas derived from the nature of things.

Documents asserting individual rights, such as the Magna Carta (1215), the Petition of Right (1628), the US Constitution (1787), the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (1789), and the US Bill of Rights (1791) are the written precursors to many of today’s human rights documents.

http://www.humanrights.com/what-are-human-rights/brief-history/cyrus-cylinder.html

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http://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2014/05/08/christian-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-15318

PAARSURREY says:
May 11, 2014 at 4:22 pm

@JOHN ZANDE says:May 10, 2014 at 4:31 pm

I appreciate your mentioning of Cyrus the Great- the Great Persian Prophet of the One-True-God, a Zoroastrian.
He was never an Atheist or Agnostic.

All Ethics, Morality and Spirituality comes from Religion; none from Atheism.

Regards

Clues hidden under the apparent surface of the text of Bible come to light

March 12, 2014

I have given response to the following comments of my Catholic friend “trueandreasonable”

http://trueandreasonable.co/
https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/christians-should-accept-jesus-core-teachings-of-jesus/#comment-4314

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/christians-should-accept-jesus-core-teachings-of-jesus/#comment-4318

paarsurrey Says:
March 12, 2014 at 12:31 pm | Reply edit

@ trueandreasonable :March 11, 2014 at 11:46 pm
I am pleased to learn that you are Catholic; I always hold them with high esteem.

I will discuss your second passage at first.

It is your blind faith or that is what you have been made to believe by sinful Paul and the Church that innocent Jesus died on the Cross. It is not history as it never happened actually.
Paul invented this creed or myth for a purpose or for his vested interest; may be not for much financial gains but otherwise. I don’t want to start Paul bashing though; yet for the love of innocent Jesus I have to decipher the coded truth.

Those who commit stealing always leave clues by which an intelligent person would locate the stealers. Those who deceive also keep other things unchanged for credulity to the ordinary persons and only change things or fabricate things only the ones which support their purpose.

If one analyzes the events of the Bible, which you know was not written by Jesus; where the accounts of crucifixion of Jesus has been narrated; it is not difficult to find the clues hidden under the apparent surface of the text.
Evidences that Jesus did not die on the Cross but he got miraculously survived always existed but the first person who combined all such material in the form of a small book of about 122 pages titled “Jesus in India” is written by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 the Promised Messiah.

The main points of the book “Jesus in India” are given below:

1. Jesus did not die on the Cross; he survived a cursed death on it.
2. Jesus was treated for his injuries inflicted on him on the Cross in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea.
3. When Jesus’ injuries on the Cross were healed to the extent he could make a journey; he came out of the tomb and he met his disciples secretly to tell them that he survived and is the same person with the same body he had before he was put on the Cross.
4. Then he went to Galilee; he did not and could not ascend to heavens; instead he secretly going up the hill went towards India; along with his mother Mary.
5. Jesus traveled to India in search of and to meet the ten lost tribes of house of Israel who were settled in different parts of India.
6. The book provided the root map of Jesus travel to India.
7. Jesus visited different part of India and ultimately settled in Kashmir, India.
8. He died a natural and physical death in India; and his grave is still found at Mohalla Khanyar, Srinagar, Kashmir, India.
9. Jesus is not to come again literally and physically and his symbolic Second Coming has been fulfilled in the person of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908.

I give below the headings of the chapters of the book just for introduction of the contents of the same.

Chapter 1
• Evidence from the Gospels
Chapter 2
• Evidence from the Quran and Authentic traditions
Chapter 3
• Evidence derived from Medical Literature
• List of Books mentioning Marham-i-Isa (ointment of Jesus), and that the Ointment was Prepared for Jesus’ Wounds
Chapter 4
• Evidence from Historical Records
Section 1:
• Evidence from Islamic literature concerning Jesus’ journeys
• Probable Route Map of Jesus’ Journey to India
Section 2:
• Evidence from Buddhist Records
Section 3:
• Evidence from Historical Writings which Show that Jesus’ Journey to the Punjab and Neighbouring Territories was Inevitable
• List of 24 Tribes of Abdalees
Appendix

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_India_(book)

The book is available online in PDF format freely; the link given below.

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Jesus-in-India.pdf

Thanks

“Jesus in India”: Introducing the book

February 12, 2014

I made following comments on the blog “Leading Malaysian Neocon” of Scott Thong ; topic “The Locked Tomb Mystery – Whodunit?”.

http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/01/17/the-locked-tomb-mystery-whodunit/
http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/01/17/the-locked-tomb-mystery-whodunit/#comment-520720

paarsurrey Says:

February 13, 14 at 1:11 am

“Jesus in India”: Introducing the book

The main points of the book “Jesus in India” by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, the Promised Messiah and Imam Mahdi are given below:

1. Jesus did not die on the Cross; he survived a cursed death on it.
2. Jesus was treated for his injuries inflicted on him on the Cross in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea.
3. When Jesus’ injuries on the Cross were healed to the extent he could make a journey; he came out of the tomb and he met his disciples secretly to tell them that he survived and is the same person with the same body he had before he was put on the Cross.
4. Then he went to Galilee; he did not and could not ascend to heavens; instead he secretly going up the hill went towards India; along with his mother Mary.
5. Jesus traveled to India in search of and to meet the ten lost tribes of house of Israel who were settled in different parts of India.
6. The book provided the root map of Jesus travel to India.
7. Jesus visited different part of India and ultimately settled in Kashmir, India.
8. He died a natural and physical death in India; and his grave is still found at Mohalla Khanyar, Srinagar, Kashmir, India.
9. Jesus is not to come again literally and physically and his symbolic Second Coming has been fulfilled in the person of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908.
10. I give below the headings of the chapter of the book:

Introduction
Chapter 1
• Evidence from the Gospels
Chapter 2
• Evidence from the Quran and Authentic traditions
Chapter 3
• Evidence derived from Medical Literature
• List of Books mentioning Marham-i-Isa (ointment of Jesus), and that the Ointment was Prepared for Jesus’ Wounds
Chapter 4
• Evidence from Historical Records
Section 1:
• Evidence from Islamic literature concerning Jesus’ journeys
• Probable Route Map of Jesus’ Journey to India
Section 2:
• Evidence from Buddhist Records
Section 3:
• Evidence from Historical Writings which Show that Jesus’ Journey to the Punjab and Neighbouring Territories was Inevitable
• List of 24 Tribes of Abdalees
Appendix
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_India_(book)

The book is freely available online:

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Jesus-in-India.pdf

It is a small book of about 122 pages.

Thanks

Knowledge and Will Power

January 14, 2014

Friday Sermon: Knowledge and Will Power for Practical Reformation

Sermon Delivered by Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad at Head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community on 10th January 2014.

http://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/2014-01-10.html

The sermon was originally delivered in Urdu, translation available in following languages:
Urdu , English, Albanian, Arabic, Bengali, Bosnian, Bulgarian, French, German, Malayalam, Russian, Sindhi, Swahili and Tamil. Please click the language of choice on the following link:

http://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/2014-01-10.html

Synopsis:

• English

• Wishing to be useful to the mission of the Promised Messiah(as) can only be made possible when each one of us tries our utmost to remove the impediments to the reformation of our practices. Reformation of our practices alone will draw others to us and we will be able to help in the completion of the mission of the Promised Messiah(as). The strength to reform others can only come about after our own reformation.

• Hazrat Musleh Maud(ra) said that dancing is part of Western culture. Perhaps it was not as common in the time of Hazrat Musleh Maud as it is today through the agency of television and the internet. Some homes have been turned into dance houses. In some families dancing takes place in the name of entertainment during family functions, especially during weddings. Ahmadi families should be completely free of these practices and attention should be given to this matter.

• There is little wrong with our strength of resolve. Majority of the Jama’at wants to have Taqwa (righteousness) and purity, to disseminate the message of Islam and to attain the love and nearness of God. Hazrat Musleh Maud(ra) said that although our strength of resolve was strong it did not bring results. Perhaps there is not enough resolve to implement what is desired.

• Hazrat Musleh Maud(ra) said that God has given every individual the capacity to asses/compare which determines how much strength is required to do such and such tasks because there is muscular strength and then there is mental strength, just as it was illustrated in the example of a person lifting an object, whereby capacity to assess/compare was utilised.

• It is bewildering why many people who seek [political] asylum think that unless they concoct a story their case will not be successful. This is in spite of Hazrat Khalifatul Masih repeatedly mentioning that if the matter is explained briefly and correctly asylum cases are successful quickly. There are many examples of this when people have said that they made brief and correct statements and their cases were successful promptly.

• In summary, reformation of practice requires three things: strength of resolve which is capable of big things, abundance of knowledge so that our strength of resolve realises its responsibility as regards what is wrong and what is right and supports what is right and endeavours to follow it and not lose out due to ignorance. Thirdly, we need strength to implement matters so that our limbs follow our good intentions and do not reject what the good intentions order them to do.

• Death of Master Mashriq Ali Sahib in Qadian, India.

Jesus presented by Bible is mythical and a construct of Paul

July 22, 2013
    • Please tell how do we know the real Jesus? And what criteria got you to arriving at your conclusion about the one in the bible?

      • Since the Christians say Jesus was a god or son of god; it is only for this that the Atheists deny his historicity; otherwise they won’t deny that a man called Jesus son of Mary did not exist. Otherwise they don’t have a list of all men and women to verify if one exist or not.

        Do you agree?

        • I think you don’t know what you are talking about or you don’t read. The question of whether he was a son of god is moot because there are no gods. We question if such a personage as told in the bible existed.
          If Jesus or Mary was a common name at that time, there is no doubt one could find a Jesus son of Mary.

        • Quoting your words:

          “If Jesus or Mary was a common name at that time, there is no doubt one could find a Jesus son of Mary.”

          So you thing Jesus son of Mary could exist; and there is no record to deny that such a human did not exist; in other words Jesus son of Mary, a human being, existed cannot be denied from any records.

          Did I understand you correctly? Please

        • Real Jesus did not die on the Cross; he was delivered from the cross in near-dead position; after treatment of his injuries that he got inflicted on the cross he migrated from Judea and went to India and spent his rest of the life there.

          • Real Jesus did not die on the Cross; he was delivered from the cross in near-dead position; after treatment of his injuries that he got inflicted on the cross he migrated from Judea and went to India and spent his rest of the life there.

          • Quoting your words:

            “I could get a post or two from it =P”
            Please elaborate the above. I don’t get you.

            Please Google for “Jesus in India”; you will get so many. I just give you link of two documentaries:

            1. Jesus In India (BBC Documentary)http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z-TOu_AITSI
            2. Jesus In Kashmir (India) – Documentary by Indian Govt.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=e_Ecm4gMhiM

            Thanks for your patience.

            • Jesus son of Mary or Jesus of Nazareth are the same real persons. Quran mentions him.

              • Paul was an enemy of Jesus son of Mary; he tried to kill him but Jesus , after the even of crucifixion in which he miraculously survived; Jesus migrated to India. Disappointed with his attempt to kill Jesus , Paul invented a new religion in Jesus’ title name and called it “Christianity”, a misnomer. Jesus son of Mary of Nazareth is a real person.
                Sorry, for the interruption friends.

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                Paarsurrey adds:

                To get to the discussion on the topic please click the dates of comments .

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The hoax of Bible being inerrant

June 14, 2013

Bible is not written by Jesus or dictated by Him; it is written by anonymous and sinful scribes; so it is not in-errant.

One big example of its being errant is its failure to record that Jesus did not die a cursed death on the Cross. Jesus survived and migrated to India. This one example shatters the myth of the inerrancy of the Bible. Just with this truth the edifice of Christianity comes to the ground.

One could view the following documentaries in this connection:

1.        BBC Documentary

 

 

 2.       Jesus in Kashmir (India)-Documentary by Indian Govt.

 

How old was Jesus Christ when he died?

June 10, 2013

Jesus was though put on Cross, yet he was delivered from the cross in near-dead position.
There are some Muslim traditions which say Jesus died a natural and peaceful death in Srinagar, Kashmir, India, at the age of 120/125 years.

Jesus got a new life after the tribulations faced by him on the Cross. By the grace of God Allah YHWH he survived a cursed death on Cross. Without dying Jesus got a new life; this is a metaphoric usage, in my opinion, in all the language of the world. If one is sick with a deadly disease or faces a trauma in real life, when there is no hope for survival, it is commonly said that that person has got a new life. It is never taken as literal or physical life from the actually dead.

Please see the following documentaries which show that Jesus did not die on the Cross; he migrated to India.

BBC Documentary

BBC_ Religions: “Jesus in Hinduism”

April 23, 2013
Shaunaka Rishi Das

Shaunaka Rishi Das

Jesus from a Hindu perspective. Photo: courtesy: Eirik Newth ©

“Jesus in Hinduism”: is an article from:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/hinduism/beliefs/jesus_1.shtml
The article states:

“Shaunaka Rishi Das has been Director of the Oxford Centre for Hindu Studies since its inception in 1997.” “He gives his view on Jesus from a Hindu perspective.”

Shaunaka Rishi Das narrates:

(I quote his words below)

Quote:”I’ve an Indian friend who, when he was seven ,moved with his family from India to England, where he was enrolled at a new school. On his first day he was asked to speak to the class about a saint from his Hindu tradition.

Enthusiastically he began to tell the story of the saint called Ishu, who was born in a cowshed, was visited by three holy men, performed many amazing miracles, walked on water and spoke a wonderful sermon on a mountain.

Of course, he was telling the story of Christ. But he was bewildered to hear that the teacher laid claim to Ishu for herself and her friends and she let him know that this was her Lord and her story, not his. He was very upset about this, because Ishu’s tale was his favourite story.

You see, in a sense, Hindus don’t really see Jesus as a Christian at all. (Of course Jesus didn’t either, because the term wasn’t used during His lifetime.) In Hindu thought, church or temple membership or belief is not as significant as spiritual practice, which in Sanskrit is called sadhana.”Unquote

For more detail,please click the following link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/hinduism/beliefs/jesus_1.shtml

Paarsurrey says:

This show that Jesus went to India after the event of crucifixion in which he survived in near-death condition nevertheless alive. He died a natural death in Kashmir and is buried there.