Posts Tagged ‘Buddha’

Did Buddha believe in the hereafter?

February 22, 2017

“Gospel of Buddha mentions, that Buddha went to heaven to meet his mother who had died.
It does reflect, however, that Buddha believed in the hereafter.”

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#113 paarsurrey, Jan 24, 2017

paarsurrey said:
It is a matter of revealed religions.
Well, Atheism are not affected, they neither believe in G-d nor in the hereafter. They are free to enjoy free-will, no compulsion.
Gospel of Buddha mentions, that Buddha went to heaven to meet his mother who had died.
It does reflect, however, that Buddha believed in the hereafter.
Please correct me if I am wrong. Please
Anybody, please
Regards

I find that Buddha went to heaven to meet his mother who had died in many a sites belonging to Buddha:
“The king of this realm is called Indra. The Indra who was king at that time was also Buddha’s disciple and he invited Buddha to go there. So Buddha went to benefit his mother and also, at Indra’s request, to benefit the other gods living there. He stayed three months, and then returned on this day.”
Buddha’s Return from Heaven Day – Kadampa Buddhism
So Buddha believed in after life. Right? Please

Regards

Paarsurrey responded:

But Buddha would have not gone to the heavens to meet his mother:

  • If Buddha had not considered it worthwhile and Buddha would have not given it full consideration
  • If Buddha had not believed in heaven
  • If Buddha had not believed in afterlife
  • If Buddha had not believed in reward for the good-people and punishment for the wrong doers
  • This could not happen if Buddha had not believed in ONE to judge the people

Right? Please
Regards

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Buddha did believe in soul

June 10, 2015

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Post #47
Paarsurrey wrote:
“If by soul we mean simply that human beings have a spiritual aspect that is not ultimately bound up with physical processes, then Buddhism would be much more sympathetic to the idea. Buddhism may deny the existence of a “soul” but it is not for that reason “soul-less” in the same way as is materialist philosophy.”​

Buddha did believe in soul.

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“Is there a soul in Buddhism”

http://www.arrowriver.ca/dhamma/soul.html

“Buddhists don’t believe in G-d: why should they have a scripture then?”

May 29, 2015

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Paarsurrey wrote:

Buddha spoke strongly against the then Hinduism and Hindu priests of his time.
Didn’t he?
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Buddha categorically declared that he was a human being; not God

July 29, 2014

http://www.city-data.com/forum/35850901-post70.html

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AREQUIPA

In the Anguttara Nikâya (I, 22), there is a clear instance in which the Buddha categorically declared that he was a human being:
“Monks, there is one person (puggala) whose birth into this world is for the welfare and happiness of many, out of compassion for the world, for the gain and welfare and happiness of gods (devas) and humanity. Who is this one person (eka puggala)? It is the Tathâgata, who is a Consummate One (arahat), a Supremely Enlightened One (sammâ-sambuddho)….Monks, one person born into the world is an extraordinary man, a marvellous man (acchariya manussa).”
Note the Påli word manussa, a human being. Yes, the Buddha was a human being but not just another man. He was a marvellous man.

The act of attaining enlightenment appears sometimes to have turned Buddha into a divine being, He was able to fly, multiply himelf and remember all his past lives. But there ins a general avoidance in Buddhist doctrine of the belief that Buddha was a god rather than a man.

Paarsurrey wrote:

Thanks and regards

Prophets: Krishna, Buddha, Moses, Zoroaster, Jesus

July 4, 2014

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinayaka

“paarsurrey, I feel you will continue to project your idea about what a prophet is onto Hinduism, even if 100 Hindus came here and told you Hinduism doesn’t have prophets. So you will always have your ‘truth’ and we will always have ours.

This is the result of subconscious mind (memory mind) conditioning, and quite understandable. You’ve read or been told over and over that all religions have prophets, so have come to believe it.” Unquote

Paarsurrey wrote:

This sub-forum is not DIR; when somebody writes here, it implies that one wants an open discussion.

There are Hindu denominations who think that Krishna definitely made a prophecy for the latter days; and I quoted it from a Hindu site.

If some or many or all Hindus consider Krishna a god; not withstanding that approach, he made a prophecy for future that stands fulfilled now; so in this sense he is a truthful prophet and I love him and believe in his truthfulness.

This prophecy has many parallels.

Likewise Jesus made a prophecy for the latter days; his Second Coming in the End of times; and everybody here knows that Christians consider Jesus a god, not withstanding that approach, he made a prophecy that stands fulfilled now, so in this sense Jesus is a truthful prophet and I love him and believe in his truthfulness.

Likewise Buddha; though not all Buddhists worship him as god. I consider Buddha also a truthful prophet and I love him and believe in his truthfulness.

Likewise Zoroaster; but his followers definitely don’t worship him and are monotheists and I have read many of their scriptures, very beautiful scriptures. So I have no reason not to believe in his being a truthful prophet and no reason not to believe in his truthfulness.

Likewise Moses; though the Judaism people don’t consider him god; but definitely in “image of G-d”. And Judaism people also wait for a Moshiach.I consider Moses also a truthful prophet and I love him and believe in his truthfulness.

Likewise… and likewise and likewise…

Where do I err please?

Since some other non-Hindus; probably or most probably Christians also written here.

Should the globe be divided into many parts; one created and ruled by Krishna and another created and ruled by Jesus. Should we reasonably and rationally divide the humanity in pieces and the infinite pieces as there are said to be 32000+ denominations of Christianity and innumerable (exact figure not known, please tell me exactly) denominations of Hinduism and other religions .

While apparently there is no difference between a human in the East or human in the West and North and South.

My questions are addressed to everybody and open for response to everybody.

To make it clear; I am and Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Regards

Kama Sutra – Tripitaka

May 31, 2014

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3788237-post2.html

paarsurrey wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leftimies

Kama Sutra – Tripitaka.

“If one, longing for sensual pleasure, achieves it, yes, he’s enraptured at heart.
The mortal gets what he wants.

But if for that person — longing, desiring — the pleasures diminish,
he’s shattered, as if shot with an arrow. Whoever avoids sensual desires
— as he would, with his foot, the head of a snake — goes beyond, mindful,
this attachment in the world.

A man who is greedy for fields, land, gold, cattle, horses,
servants, employees, women, relatives, and many sensual pleasures,
is overpowered with weakness and trampled by trouble, for pain invades him as water,
a cracked boat. So one, always mindful, should avoid sensual desires.
Letting them go, he’d cross over the flood like one who,
having bailed out the boat, has reached the far shore.”

– Direct extract.

Quite different from the kama sutra introduced to the West, isn’t it? Give me your thoughts on this subject – whether it be comparison to the other kama sutra, your opinion on this one, or whatever. Do you agree with the claim, or do you vehemently disagree?

Please provide the wording of kama sutra that has been introduced to the West; for comparison.

Why the wording has been changed and who did it?

Regards

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3788343-post5.html

paarsurrey

The truthful religion informs us that all natural human instincts have to be harnessed for ethical, moral and spiritual progress and are to be tuned to the purpose of life fixed by the One-True-God.

Buddha narrated the Kama Sutra in the same connection.

Regards

Why Ahmadi peaceful Muslim?

May 21, 2014

http://atheistenglishman.wordpress.com/believer-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-33

paarsurrey on May 21, 2014 at 4:03 pm said:
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim.

http://atheistenglishman.wordpress.com/believer-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-38

AtheistEnglishmanon May 21, 2014 at 4:32 pm said:
Why do you feel the need to insert ‘peaceful’ in the description?

http://atheistenglishman.wordpress.com/believer-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-41

paarsurrey on May 21, 2014 at 7:49 pm said:

We Ahmadiyya peaceful Muslims have the diversity the world needs.

We do not eliminate or exterminate or abhor any human beings. We do not say that Jesus’ or Krishna’s or Buddha’s or Zoroaster’s or Moses’ ways were wrong. We respect them all and say that the above persons were truthful persons and they must have received messages from Allah. But their people did not and could not secure the Message which was the same for every race and region.

The obscure Word with them could be rejuvenated and reconstructed to the original Message but with a lot of effort, as the Renovators would do to an ancient building or monument.

While the same Creator rules the Universe now that ruled in the ancient times; He has mercifully re-sent the Message through Muhammad, respecting the ancient scriptures but encompassing the same in Quran in a compact manner. So the reality and diversity are not compromised but maintained in a graceful way- which is the need of the hour.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 as a truthful Successor of Muhammad is doing this work with peaceful discussion and dialogue.

Regards

Similarities in life accounts and teachings of Buddha and Jesus

April 22, 2014

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paarsurrey Wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Agnimitra
Well, the reason I baulk at letting this theory bite the dust , is because the similarities do not seem to stop at mere moral codes and ethical injunctions.

Not only does it not limit to morality, it is also pervasive through the biography of both the men.

To strictly follow chronology , I would request you to examine the birth of Jesus and Buddha first. I dont want to take too much at a time

Compare the names of the mothers– Queen Maya and Ma(r)ya.
Mâyâ was later regarded as a virgin and King Suddhodhana as a stepfather, just like Joseph.

Both of them are visited by celestial beings (an angel and a white elephant who foretells the birth of the savior )

Buddha is born while his mother is in a travel, under a tree. Jesus is also born while in travel.

Buddha emits a dazzling light and Jesus elicits a blue star.
Buddha receives homage from Gandharvas and Devas in the Sky. Jesus gets homage from angels in the sky.

Buddha is called son of God (devaputra), descended from Brahma. Jesus also claims lineage from “Abraham”.Compare the names “Abraham” and “Brahma”

Both are thus of royal descent. Jesus is called son of David and Buddha is of the great Ishkavu dynasty

Wise men gather in both cases.

In a text called Nidhanakatha, a noble woman says of the Budhda “Verily, that mother is blessed, who has given birth to a man like this one”.
Luke 11.27 talks of a woman who praises Mary –“Blessed is the womb, that bare thee and the paps which thou hast suckled.”

Of course, there are differences like Maya dying seven days later . But I do think all the above are too protruding from the coincidental.

For more similarities in life accounts and teachings of Buddha and Jesus one may like to read quite a few pages from the book “Jesus in India”:

“SECTION 2
Evidence from books on Buddhism”

Let it be clear that Buddhist scriptures have made available to us evidence of various kinds, which, on the whole, is enough to prove that Jesus (on whom be peace) must have come to the Punjab and Kashmir, etc. I set out this evidence herein, so that all impartial people may first study it, and then by arranging it as a connected account in their minds, may themselves come to the aforesaid conclusion. Here is the evidence. First: the titles given to the Buddha are similar to the titles given to Jesus. Likewise, the events of the life of Buddha resemble those of the life of Jesus. The reference here, however, is to the Buddhism of places within the boundaries of Tibet, like Leh, Lhasa, Gilgit and Hams, etc., which are the places about which it is proved that they were visited by Jesus.”

Pages 83-99
“Jesus in India” by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Jesus-in-India.pdf

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Buddha and Jesus got knowledge and wisdom from the same one source; hence their similarities

April 22, 2014

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Paarsurrey wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by idav
I believe the gnostic chritian interpretation parralels the mahayanian buddhist school of thought.

I believe it is possible for anyone can tap into the source since god is within all and they parallel when it works. Whether people attach needless dogma to the concepts doesnt change what it is at its core.

I agree with your thought that since Buddha and Jesus got knowledge and wisdom from the same one source, which I believe to be the light/revelation from the One-True-God, hence similarities in their teachings and the world-view; though they were some five hundred years apart in time.

Regards

God of Moses,Buddha,Krishna, Zoroaster, Socrates, Jesus and Muhammad is the same God in attributes

April 4, 2014

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http://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/yahwehs-dreadful-power-problem-3/comment-page-1/#comment-13794

PAARSURREY says:
April 4, 2014 at 4:13 pm

@JOHN ZANDE says:April 3, 2014 at 10:58 pm
“Why’s that, Paar? Isn’t the god of the Qur’an (which is the god of the Pentateuch) omnipotent?”

No that is not the perspective of Islam/Quran/Muhammad.

One reason of the revelation of Quran was that the Torah was got corrupted by the Jewish clergy. This is clearly mentioned in Quran. Hence new revelation was needed for guidance.

The other reason was that the Torah at the times of Muhammad did not contain the reason part. Quran provides the reason-content under an elaborate system. It is not commandments only; it is commandment with the wisdom.

We, Muslims are in fact happy that the archaeologists have now proved the points that Quran had mentioned about the Torah.

There is an elaborate system of explanations of the attributes of the One-True-God.

One would observe that invariably Quran provides an attributes of God at the end of a verse; the event hints at the attribute under which action of God took place.

In this meaning the whole Quran explains all attributes of God and as to how these attributes work without contradiction with other attributes; and which attributes overtakes the others.

We can say that God of Moses,Buddha,Krishna, Zoroaster, Socrates, Jesus and Muhammad is the same God in attributes.

Thanks and regards

http://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2014/04/03/yahwehs-dreadful-power-problem-3/#comment-13795

PAARSURREY says:
April 4, 2014 at 4:31 pm

I think I mentioned these things; but perhaps you did not get it.

Should I quote as to what I wrote about it.

I mentioned that all the archaeological excavations have been done with reference to the cities and places mentioned in the Bible; not with reference to Quran.

There is not a single site that has been excavated with reference to Quran.

Every branch of knowledge has its limitations; archaeology is also not 100% correct.

Regards