Posts Tagged ‘Islam’

Pew Research and Islam

May 31, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/the-future-of-religion.221261/page-4#post-6127868

#62paarsurrey

What will be the position/no-position of Atheism (and the like Agnosticism/Skepticism) religion/no-religion , please?

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#68 Epixxxxxxxxxx said:

According to the graph from 2010-2050 Islam will grow exponentially therefore by 2050 it will become 29.7% of the worlds population while Christianity will be 31%. The religiously unaffiliated will decline approximately around plus minus 3% (from 16.4 to 13.2). Buddhist shares a similar drop off as well as folk religions. But beyond that it may be hard to say considering the technological changes soon to come because with advanced technology there is an eventual change in the social dynamics on how we see the world. Therefore I think when we colonize other planets I believe religion/spirituality will play a part it’ll just play a part differently than how we perceive today and that lack of religion or atheism will remain stagnant.

 

Religion bonds humans to unity, peace and justice

May 7, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/world-peace-and-religion.220384/page-2#post-6094135

#40 paarsurrey

If correctly understood Religion bonds humans to unity, peace and justice; if not correctly understood it is the fault of the vested individuals not of the Religion itself. Right, please?

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Nature and extent of Islamic influence in Sikhism

May 7, 2019

Religious Forums

 

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/islams-relationship-with-sikhism.220440/#post-6093978

#6 paarsurrey

The writings on his “Chola-Sahib” or his “Long-Coat” or the “Holy Robe” tell us/testifies that its founder Baba Guru-Nanak-Sahib became a Muslim and died as such.

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“The chola itself is extremely curious. One may think that the chola will be identified with Hindu and Sikh scriptures. But a look at the Chola shows that it has verses from the holy Koran handwritten all over it. The Chola accepts Muhammad as the messenger of god and has quotations from the Koran on it. With the passage of time the writings are dimmed but enough evidence is available that the chola eulogises Koran and Muhammad.”
Gurudwara Chola Sahib and the Sacred Robe of Nanak at Dera Baba Nanak

#9 paarsurrey

The question is, did Baba Guru Nanak Ji name the religion Sikhs believe?
If yes, then please quote from him.
Anybody, please

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Meccans who would not permit freedom of religion to the Muslims

May 6, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/why-is-islam-so-dangerous.220170/page-30#post-6092971

“The Muslims were first attacked, persecuted, their businesses plundered and livelihood destroyed and some killed during 13 years of persecution in Mecca after which they fled to Abyssinia as refugees and given refuge by the Christian King Negus. The Meccans pursued them to Abyssinia intending to exterminate and commit genocide against the Muslim community. An assassination attempt was also made against Prophet Muhammad but failed.”
“Meccans who would not permit freedom of religion to the Muslims”

#593 paarsurrey

Wonderful summation of the cause and context of the conflict.

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The End-time Reformer has Come

May 3, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/why-is-islam-so-dangerous.220170/page-25#post-6089470

“Is there some kind of Islamic reform possible?”
#491 paarsurrey
Islam is already under reformation under the peaceful Ahmadiyya Islam, under leadership of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908.
Please

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“Until there is no persecution and religion is wholly for Allah”

November 13, 2017

‘Ammar’s father, Yasir, and his mother, Sumayyah, also were tormented by
disbelievers. On one such occasion the Prophet happened to pass by. Filled with
emotion, he said, “Family of Yasir, bear up patiently, for God has prepared for you a Paradise.” The prophetic words were soon fulfilled. Yasir succumbed to the tortures, and a little later Abu Jahl murdered his aged wife, Sumayyah, with a spear.

Zinnirah, a woman slave, lost her eyes under the cruel treatment of disbelievers. Abu Fukayh, Safwan bin Umayyah’s slave, was laid on hot sand while over his chest were placed heavy and hot stones, under pain of which his tongue dropped out. Other slaves were mishandled in similar ways.”

Thread: “Is Koran a Book of Peace, Not War? “Debating Christianity and Religion Forum Index -> Non-Christian Religions and Philosophies

Post 33: 

[Replying to post 31 by paarsurrey1]
X—- — wrote:
Not sure how that is helping your case. Sure, spreading mischief in the land can mean persecution. It’s not clear what count and does not count as persecution. And it says to fight us until there is no persecution and religion is wholly for Allah right there, that’s the very opposite of peace.


Quote:X—- — wrote:
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paarsurrey1 wrote:

Quran verse [8:40]* addresses the Meccans who were persecuting Muslims, had burnt their houses, tortured them physically, not allowing Muslims to pray in congregation as per their religion, Muhammad and his companions were boycotted and restricted to an area for three years, not even allowing them access to food and were forced to migrate leaving their properties and valuable behind:

“Most of these slave-converts remained steadfast in outer as well as inner
professions of faith. But some were weak. Once the Holy Prophet found ‘Ammar
groaning with pain and drying his tears. Approached by the Prophet, ‘Ammar said he had been beaten and compelled to recant. The Prophet asked him, “But did you believe at heart?” ‘Ammar declared that he did, and the Prophet said that God would forgive his weakness.

‘Ammar’s father, Yasir, and his mother, Sumayyah, also were tormented by
disbelievers. On one such occasion the Prophet happened to pass by. Filled with
emotion, he said, “Family of Yasir, bear up patiently, for God has prepared for you a Paradise.” The prophetic words were soon fulfilled. Yasir succumbed to the tortures, and a little later Abu Jahl murdered his aged wife, Sumayyah, with a spear.

Zinnirah, a woman slave, lost her eyes under the cruel treatment of disbelievers. Abu Fukayh, Safwan bin Umayyah’s slave, was laid on hot sand while over his chest were placed heavy and hot stones, under pain of which his tongue dropped out. Other slaves were mishandled in similar ways.” :

One may like to read more from “Introduction to the Study of the Holy Quran”
Page 121 of 346
https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Introduction-Study-Holy-Quran.pdf

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[8:39] Say to those who disbelieve, if they desist, that which is past will be forgiven them; and if they return thereto, then verily, the example of the former peoples has already gone before them.
*[8:40] And fight them until there is no persecution and religion is wholly for Allah. But if they desist, then surely Allah is Watchful of what they do.
https://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=8&verse=39

“spreading mischief in the land” is “persecution” in the verse/s

Islam teaches “non-violence”

October 31, 2017

Thread: “Is there an answer to Islamic terrorism? ”
Can we defend ourselves?

Debating Christianity and Religion Forum Index -> Current Events

Post 93: 

——- wrote:
paarsurrey1 wrote:
One may note here that the terrorists are clearly not following the teachings mentioned in these verses and whatever they are doing has no sanction from Quran/Islam/Muhammad, please.

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Be more specific please. What part(s) exactly out of those verses, do you think terrorists are not following?

paarsurrey1 wrote:

They are not following any teachings mentioned in the context verses, for instance:

[5:29] ‘If thou stretch out thy hand against me to kill me, I am not going to stretch out my hand against thee to kill thee. I do fear Allah, the Lord of the universe.

OOOOOOO
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Is there a complete list of countries where Islam spread by the sword?

November 22, 2015
Post #124

A Greased Scotsman said:

A Greased ScotsmanPagan – Greek polytheism

Thank you. At least you admit it’s even a possibility that Islam was spread through violence and intimidation. That’s a breath of fresh air on this thread.

What of Mohammed though? He also spread Islam through intimidation and violence – are you saying Allah’s messenger could also have gotten it wrong? Especially in light of the numerous verses that talk about fighting against non-believers?

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Post #125

muhammad_isa said:

muhammad_isaIslam

No .. I am not saying that Muhammad, peace be with him, did anything wrong .. I’m saying that people who are at war are most likely to behave in an undefined manner .. not in accordance with their beliefs..

It’s a simple statement to say that ‘Islam was spread by the sword’ .. could you also say that ‘modern capitalism was spread by the atom bomb’ ?

Too simplistic .. Almighty God knows our individual intentions .. who is guilty and who is not from amongst mankind of ALL faiths .. He knows who begins aggression and who defends themselves.

Post #127

Paarsurrey wrote:

There is no possibility for that. Religion never spreads by sword, because sword cannot convince one at heart. Muhammad told very clearly that one can become muslim when one’s heart witnesses the truth and then one declares with one’s tongue of the ONENESS of G-d and the prophet-hood of Muhammad:

One can become Muslim when one’s heart witnesses the truth and then one declares with one’s tongue of the ONENESS of G-d and the prophet-hood of Muhammad:
“Anas reported that the Holy Prophet said: There is no one who testifies truly from his heart that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, but Allah prohibits for him the fire of hell.”
(Mishkat al-Masabih, Book of Faith, ch. 1, sec. 1)

“A person becomes a Muslim by leaving all that contradicts the meaning of the following Testification of Faith, believing in the heart and declaring with the tongue”
http://alsunna.org/beconvinced.htm

To become a Muslim one must simply pronounce the Shahadah (Declaration of Faith) through his/her heart and tongue with sincerity and conviction.
“ASH-HADU ANLA ELAHA ILLA-ALLAH WA ASH-HADU ANNA MOHAMMADAN ABDUHU WA RASOOLUHU”.
The English translation is:
“I bear witness that there is no deity worthy to be worshipped but Allah, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger”.
http://www.aaicw.org/old-aaicw/how_to_be_a_muslim.html
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http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/is-there-a-complete-list-of-countries-where-islam-spread-by-the-sword.181468/page-7#post-4514603

Is there a complete list of countries where Islam spread by the sword?

November 22, 2015
Post #129

Paarsurrey wrote:

Your sentence that I have coloured in magenta (in italics above) is not clear. Please elaborate.

G-d did not abandon Muhammad, he was successful in every field, and this is a clear and brilliant sign , as mentioned in Quran of his being a truthful prophet of G-d and the Meccan idolaters were wrong in not accepting him rather opposing him tooth and nail:

[58:21]Certainly those who oppose Allah and His Messenger will be among the lowest.
[58:22]Allah has decreed: ‘Most surely I will prevail, I and My Messengers.’ Verily, Allah is Powerful, Mighty.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=58&verse=21

And that is the open secret of Muhammad being successful.
Note: Nobody has yet provided a complete list with consensus of countries where Islam spread by sword as is commonly alleged superficially.
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http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/is-there-a-complete-list-of-countries-where-islam-spread-by-the-sword.181468/page-7#post-4515583

Did Islam spread by sword?

May 31, 2014

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3788374-post42.html

paarsurrey

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZooGirl02

Hi everyone. Some people say that Islam was spread by the sword. Others say that it was not. The Koran says that there is to be no compulsion in religion so it would seem that Islam’s sacred text would condone religious freedom. But was this really the case historically? Here is the reference from the Koran which I am referring to.
Quote:

[2.256] There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the Shaitan and believes in Allah he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.

paarsurrey’s response:

Islam did not spread with sword or because of sword.
Islam spread for its natural, rational and peaceful teachings.

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http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3790428-post76.html

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZooGirl02

“You know, I am thinking that perhaps it was just that Islamic empires were spread by the sword but not the religion itself was spread by the sword historically. Now, granted, there have been cases in recent times in which people were forced to convert to Islam or die such as in Syria but I am speaking historically. Also, the actions of a few should not be blamed on the entire group that the few are a member of. That’s my opinion anyway. I mean, you wouldn’t say that Atheists endorse murder just because some Communist Atheists murdered people in Soviet Russia, right?”

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Paarsurrey says:

I agree with you.

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http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/religious-debates/163547-islam-spread-sword-13.html#post3792169

Paarsurrey wrote:

I have checked many countries;it just happened like that.
If one likes; I could give examples.

For example:

Peaceful spread of Islam in Maldives:

The islands converted from Buddhism in the 12th century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/islam_in_the_maldives

There was no subjugation by sword.

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