I understand that Krisna or Krishna means black. We humans see objects that absorb all colours of light as black. One-true-God is light so Krishna absorbed all colours of light or became immersed in all the colours or attributes of One-True-God that a human could could get in his time and as such became a messenger/prophet of One-true-God. Is it correct?
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So far we have talked only about the prophets of the Bible and the Quran. What about the prophets of other religions and nations? According to the Quran, God has sent His messengers to every nation:
“There is not a people but a Warner has gone among them” (35:25)
“For every nation there is a Messenger” (10:48)
The Muslims, therefore, believe that earlier religions were also founded by God’s messengers. Their teachings, however, were corrupted by their followers over the course of time. Below are given the names of some of the founders of other religions who could be equated to the prophets of the Quran and the Bible.
Luqman: mentioned in the Quran by name but his territory is unknown. According to some scholars he was the
Greek “Aesop” while according to others he was a Prophet in Abyssinia. Luqman does not correspond to any Biblical prophet.
Zoroaster: The founder of Zoroastrianism, an ancient religion of Iran. Zoroaster’s period is roughly placed at around 1500 B.C.
Krishna, Ram Chandar: Krishna is known among the Hindus as an “Avatar” Ram Chandar or a manifestation of God. It appears that both Krishna and Ram Chandar were the Hindu equivalent of the Quranic nabis. They, however, were not the founders of the Hindu religion.
Mahavira: Founder of Jainism, Mahavira lived in India in the sixth century B.C. He tried to abolish the caste system that existed in Hinduism.
Buddha: Siddhartha Gautama Buddha was the founder of the Buddhist faith. He lived in India in the sixth Century B.C. The word ‘Buddha’ means the Enlightened One.
Confucius: Founder of Confucianism, a Chinese religion. Confucius lived in China in the fifth century B.C. His teachings placed great emphasis on social ethics.
Lao Tze: The founder of the Tao religion of China who lived in the sixth century B.C.
I appreciate the above article written by Jamaat Ahmadiyya, a very scholarly article indeed.
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Courtesy of the blog by Tanweer Ahmad <http://www.speakingtree.in/blog/the-honorable-lord-krishna-a-prophet-of-allah>
I quote from it here:
“While many recognize the differences between Islam and Hinduism, few may appreciate that according to Islamic principles and Prophet Muhammad, Lord Krishna was a true Prophet of God.
I joined discussion @ https://redd.it/6pojdv topic <Has a religion ever mentioned the existence of another religion within its source material?> and wrote/responded following posts.
Quran not only mentions other revealed religions but mentions that those religions were truthful in their origin, their founders got Word of Revelations from God and that they were truthful persons. It is incumbent on the followers of Quran/Islam/Muhammad to believe in such founders and respect their revelations in whatever positions these are now. One cannot be a Muslim if one does not believe in the truthfulness of such persons and the messages they brought from God. It is for this that the followers of Quran/Islam/Muhammad respect Buddha, Krishna, Moses, Zoroaster, Jesus, Socrates etc. Regards
Are you an Ahmadi by any chance?
Yes, with the grace of God, I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim. It is incumbent on a Muslim to believe in all the prophets sent by God, whether their names have been mentioned in Quran or they have not been mentioned in Quran. God sent warners and prophets/messengers to all the nations, so a Muslim has to believe in all of them. Denial of any one of them is denial or all of them as per Quran/Islam/Muhammad.
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paarsurrey wrote:
Thanks for one’s confirmation that Krishna and Bhagvad Gita came later and hence Veda/s do not mention them, if I understood one correctly. Please
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paarsurrey wrote:
Did Vedas exist before The Bhagavad Gita ?
Friend 
@Kirran !
The respect of Veda, or any other revealed scripture is to read it often, to get guidance from it in one’s life and not to throw its teachings on one’s back . Why did G-d reveal Veda, if it was a superficial guidance for the humans and never needed? Please
When Veda believers left Veda, Veda also left them, and it became open for the narrators/scribes/priests to do any corruptions they wanted.
If one leaves one’s Jewelry in the open, anybody could pick it up. Right? Please
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One may like to read post #22 in another sub-forum related to it:
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http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3827858-post80.html
Please click the above link to know the context of discussion and join the discussion.
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Originally Posted by Vinayaka
“paarsurrey, I feel you will continue to project your idea about what a prophet is onto Hinduism, even if 100 Hindus came here and told you Hinduism doesn’t have prophets. So you will always have your ‘truth’ and we will always have ours.
This is the result of subconscious mind (memory mind) conditioning, and quite understandable. You’ve read or been told over and over that all religions have prophets, so have come to believe it.” Unquote
Paarsurrey wrote:
This sub-forum is not DIR; when somebody writes here, it implies that one wants an open discussion.
There are Hindu denominations who think that Krishna definitely made a prophecy for the latter days; and I quoted it from a Hindu site.
If some or many or all Hindus consider Krishna a god; not withstanding that approach, he made a prophecy for future that stands fulfilled now; so in this sense he is a truthful prophet and I love him and believe in his truthfulness.
This prophecy has many parallels.
Likewise Jesus made a prophecy for the latter days; his Second Coming in the End of times; and everybody here knows that Christians consider Jesus a god, not withstanding that approach, he made a prophecy that stands fulfilled now, so in this sense Jesus is a truthful prophet and I love him and believe in his truthfulness.
Likewise Buddha; though not all Buddhists worship him as god. I consider Buddha also a truthful prophet and I love him and believe in his truthfulness.
Likewise Zoroaster; but his followers definitely don’t worship him and are monotheists and I have read many of their scriptures, very beautiful scriptures. So I have no reason not to believe in his being a truthful prophet and no reason not to believe in his truthfulness.
Likewise Moses; though the Judaism people don’t consider him god; but definitely in “image of G-d”. And Judaism people also wait for a Moshiach.I consider Moses also a truthful prophet and I love him and believe in his truthfulness.
Likewise… and likewise and likewise…
Where do I err please?
Since some other non-Hindus; probably or most probably Christians also written here.
Should the globe be divided into many parts; one created and ruled by Krishna and another created and ruled by Jesus. Should we reasonably and rationally divide the humanity in pieces and the infinite pieces as there are said to be 32000+ denominations of Christianity and innumerable (exact figure not known, please tell me exactly) denominations of Hinduism and other religions .
While apparently there is no difference between a human in the East or human in the West and North and South.
My questions are addressed to everybody and open for response to everybody.
To make it clear; I am and Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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paarsurrey on May 21, 2014 at 4:03 pm said:
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim.
http://atheistenglishman.wordpress.com/believer-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-38
AtheistEnglishmanon May 21, 2014 at 4:32 pm said:
Why do you feel the need to insert ‘peaceful’ in the description?
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paarsurrey on May 21, 2014 at 7:49 pm said:
We Ahmadiyya peaceful Muslims have the diversity the world needs.
We do not eliminate or exterminate or abhor any human beings. We do not say that Jesus’ or Krishna’s or Buddha’s or Zoroaster’s or Moses’ ways were wrong. We respect them all and say that the above persons were truthful persons and they must have received messages from Allah. But their people did not and could not secure the Message which was the same for every race and region.
The obscure Word with them could be rejuvenated and reconstructed to the original Message but with a lot of effort, as the Renovators would do to an ancient building or monument.
While the same Creator rules the Universe now that ruled in the ancient times; He has mercifully re-sent the Message through Muhammad, respecting the ancient scriptures but encompassing the same in Quran in a compact manner. So the reality and diversity are not compromised but maintained in a graceful way- which is the need of the hour.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 as a truthful Successor of Muhammad is doing this work with peaceful discussion and dialogue.
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The viewers should access the following link to know the context of the post; and then they should form their own sincere and independent opinion.
PAARSURREY says:
April 4, 2014 at 4:13 pm
@JOHN ZANDE says:April 3, 2014 at 10:58 pm
“Why’s that, Paar? Isn’t the god of the Qur’an (which is the god of the Pentateuch) omnipotent?”
No that is not the perspective of Islam/Quran/Muhammad.
One reason of the revelation of Quran was that the Torah was got corrupted by the Jewish clergy. This is clearly mentioned in Quran. Hence new revelation was needed for guidance.
The other reason was that the Torah at the times of Muhammad did not contain the reason part. Quran provides the reason-content under an elaborate system. It is not commandments only; it is commandment with the wisdom.
We, Muslims are in fact happy that the archaeologists have now proved the points that Quran had mentioned about the Torah.
There is an elaborate system of explanations of the attributes of the One-True-God.
One would observe that invariably Quran provides an attributes of God at the end of a verse; the event hints at the attribute under which action of God took place.
In this meaning the whole Quran explains all attributes of God and as to how these attributes work without contradiction with other attributes; and which attributes overtakes the others.
We can say that God of Moses,Buddha,Krishna, Zoroaster, Socrates, Jesus and Muhammad is the same God in attributes.
Thanks and regards
PAARSURREY says:
April 4, 2014 at 4:31 pm
I think I mentioned these things; but perhaps you did not get it.
Should I quote as to what I wrote about it.
I mentioned that all the archaeological excavations have been done with reference to the cities and places mentioned in the Bible; not with reference to Quran.
There is not a single site that has been excavated with reference to Quran.
Every branch of knowledge has its limitations; archaeology is also not 100% correct.
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paarsurrey
MAR 24, 2014 @ 14:37:36
I think science and religion work in different realm; so there is no contradiction in science and religion if correctly interpreted.
No founder of a revealed religion like Buddha, Krishna, Moses, Zoroaster, Socrates, Jesus and Muhammad ever opposed science or scientific endeavors.
Religious people have served science very much; this fact cannot be denied.
Religion is a path that leads to God; this path is not physical or material; so science has nothing to do with it.
I think everybody reasonable must have to agree with it.
Thanks and regards
PAARSURREY says:
March 21, 2014 at 9:59 pm
@JOHN ZANDE says:March 21, 2014 at 8:46 pm
“Clearly there must be some sanction somewhere, else Islam wouldn’t have such a vibrant history of slavery. Christianity, of course, is no better. One’s as archaic as the other.”
It is the rulers that do such things; they do things in the name of religion; and exploit people under cover.
Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster, Moses, Jesus, Socrates, Muhammad (and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad- the rightful successor of Muhammad in our present era) gave no teachings to make others a slave. There is no such teaching in Quran; I am absolutely certain about it.
Other founders of religions- the Messengers Prophets of the One-True-God whose names I have given above- their followers are exhorted to defend them in this connection in the first place.
If they fail to defend them; then I will defend them also after purification of their scriptures as per principles outlined in Quran.
Please get help from other Atheists/Agnostics/Skeptics/Humanists who have read Quran themselves; to kindly quote just a single verse, repeat a single verse, from Quran in this connection. Please don’t give a list; if one has a list then select ONE verse that justify your viewpoint the most, for discussion here.
One could contact the person who wrote the article on the subject from the link provided by one and get help from him, if he can help.
Thanks and regards
PAARSURREY says:
March 22, 2014 at 4:59 pm
@BOBBIERILEYJR says:March 22, 2014 at 12:12 am
“Most telling is that slavery is still practiced in the Sudan, Niger, Mauritania and a few other corners of the Muslim world.” Unquote
It has got nothing to do with Quran/Islam/Muhammad. There is no commandment or teaching in Quran to make one a slave.
I think it will be clear to one if one listens the following Friday Sermon from Mirza Masroor Ahmad- the Head of the World-Wide Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.
He is the fifth rightful Successor to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908) – The Promised Messiah – The Second Coming:
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVBxj5rVA8k?feature=player_embedded&w=640&h=360%5D
The original Sermon was delivered in Urdu; its translations are available in following languages:
Urdu, English, Albanian, Arabic, Bengali, Bosnian, Bulgarian, French, German, Indonesian, Malayalam, Russian, Spanish, Swahili, Tamil, Turkish
Please click the language of your choice by accessing the following link:
http://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/2011-11-25.html
PAARSURREY says:
March 23, 2014 at 9:19 pm
@BOBBIERILEYJR says: March 22, 2014 at 8:01 pm
“A fatwa” Unqoute
A fatwa means an opinion. Opinions could differ; it could be and is an unsubstantiated opinion and not supported by the context verses of Quran or other verses of Quran.
A fatwa is not a verse of Quran; and is not binding on others.
If a sinful Mullah believes wrongly for his vested interest; he is responsible for it not Quran/Islam/Muhammad.
You have referred to Chapter 23; please read the following four pages in its verse 23:7 for its explanation:
http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1781®ion=E1&CR=
http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1782®ion=E1
http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1783®ion=E1
http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1784®ion=E1
It will make things clear for you.
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paarsurrey 
[–]kriceman
I haven’t met many Muslims who respect Krishna actually, and neither does the Qur’an mention Hinduism. But overall, yes, the Qur’an is very universalist in its understanding of religion. By this I don’t mean it says that everyone goes to heaven, but that the insistence of Islam upon God as the One and the Absolute has led to the acceptance of a multiplicity of prophets and revelations (5:48).
[–]paarsurrey
Does one want to meet such Muslims who respect Krishna? Just please google with search terms “Muslims who believe in Krishna prophet” and one could find them. One may like to read the following link in this connection:
http://www.speakingtree.in/blog/the-honorable-lord-krishna-a-prophet-of-allah
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