Posts Tagged ‘Jesus’

NT Bible consist of glimpses of Word of G-d only

June 30, 2015

<> Thread : A good heated discussion.

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Post #229

Paarsurrey wrote:

I agree with you. Jesus did not write NT Bible, he also did not dictate it to anybody, he also did not authorize anybody to write anything on his behalf.

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Inner evidence of Gospels confirms: NT Bible is not eyewitness account

June 4, 2015

<><Thread : Did Jesus have Scribes, ie are the Gospels actual witness accounts?>

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The Deist said:
None of the gospel writers were eyewitnesses
paarsurrey said:
I agree with you. The inner evidence of the NT Bible confirms this.

Paarsurrey wrote:
Gospel According to Saint Luke
Chapter 1
[1]Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a narration of the things that have been accomplished among us;[2]According as they have delivered them unto us, who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word:[3]It seemed good to me also, having diligently attained to all things from the beginning, to write to thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,[4]That thou mayest know the verity of those words in which thou hast been instructed.​

Luke was not an eyewitness, he says so and admits it in so many words.


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Thomas certified that Jesus did not die on the Cross

June 3, 2015

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Gospel of Thomas

Paarsurrey wrote:

The Church Councils canonized NT Bible unauthorized. Gospel of Thomas is no less reliable than other other gospels.

Thomas certified after the event of Crucifixion that Jesus did not die on the Cross by putting his hands in the wounds of the body of Jesus and seeing and observing with his own eyes that Jesus was in the same body as Jesus was before the crucifixion:

John 20:25
So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”
John 20:27
26After eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors having been shut, and stood in their midst and said, “Peace be with you.”27Then He said to Thomas, “Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing.”​


Of being born of a virgin

May 11, 2015
Post #54

Topic of the thread :What do you think of the virgin birth of Jesus ?

Jesus was born to Mary without a father. There are/were many people who were born from the virgins in the ancient times.

Paarsurrey wrote:

Adam was born without a father or mother.


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Post #60

Paarsurrey wrote:

Well in that sense everybody is born of a virgin.
I agree with you.


Jesus not G-d

May 11, 2015 > <How can God be Jesus, and the father, yet Jesus not be the father?>

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  2. Topic: How can God be Jesus, and the father, yet Jesus not be the father?

    Paarsurrey wrote:

    Jesus was never a G-d. It is a wrong notion.

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Paarsurrey wrote:

You mean that Jesus was a manifestation of G-d like Abraham, Moses and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908? Please elaborate.


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    Paarsurrey wrote:

    What do you mean by literal? Do you mean Jesus was not real?

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Paarsurrey wrote:

All prophets/messengers of G-d like Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster, Moses, Socrates, Muhammad and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908) being in the image of G-d were endowed this deific nature; Jesus/Esa had no distinction whatsoever in this connection.


Jesus cannot be physical part of G-d

May 11, 2015

<> under topic <Jesus is under subjection to God>.

Paarsurrey wrote:

G-d is not a physical being so Jesus cannot be His physical part.
It is a wrong notion.


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Jesus was not a magician or a professional healer

May 6, 2015

I wrote following post on my favourite discussion forum <> under the topic <if hypothetically a man actually did what Jesus did in the 1st century would it occur like the story>

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ideogenous_mover said:

Paarsurrey wrote: Jesus was a prophet/messenger of the One-True-God, he was not a magician or a professional healer. Paul and his associates had created a mythology or a new religion which has got nothing to do with Jesus or his teachings.
Whenever a prophet/messenger comes from the One-True-God most often the people would ridicule and persecute him like they did with Jesus.
One may like to refer to in this connection to Al-Baqarah Chapter 2 : Verse 88 .


People born of virgin mothers

May 5, 2015

Please view my post on < > in the topic <If hypothetically a man actually did what Jesus did in the 1st century would it occur like the story> and comment on it if you may like to.

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Paarsurrey wrote:Here are just 10 people born of a virgin in the ancient world:

  • Buddha
  • Krishna – born without a sexual union, by “mental transmission” from the mind of Vasudeva into the womb of Devaki, his mother.
  • Odysseus
  • Romulus
  • Dionysus*
  • Heracles – Son of a god (Zeus)
  • Glycon – son of the God Apollo
  • Zoroaster/Zarathustra
  • Attis of Phrygia
  • Horus…born-of-a-virgin-it-happened-a-lot-back-then/


“Why I find Christianity dangerous to the human mind”

May 5, 2015

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Paarsurrey wrote:The above is true about Paul’s Christianity.
It has nothing to do with Jesus who never believed these tenets.


Jesus brought no new salvation; not at all.

July 7, 2014
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Originally Posted by The Sum of Awe

“Out of curiosity, why did Jesus save humanity at the time he did and not earlier? Salvation would then have been automatic for those who died before his coming instead of them waiting.

It would have made everything a lot less complicated. No need for laws and practices that were no longer required after him.

Or even better yet, why wasn’t Salvation simply made automatic in the first place?” Unquote

Paarsurrey wrote:

This is a creed invented by Paul, the scribes and the Church;they did it by corrupting teachings of Jesus. Jesus was a Jew and remained as such even when he went to India.

This corruption/alteration has been done by Paul, the scribes and the Church while Jesus and Mary had already traveled out of Judea going to India.
Jesus’ mission was to refresh the core teachings of Moses and to refresh the covenant of Noah, Abraham and Moses (excluding the corruption/changes made by the clergy).

Jesus brought no new salvation; not at all.