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Veda people never lived in Arctic. Did they?

October 13, 2016

ReligiousForums.com

http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/veda-people-never-lived-in-arctic-did-they.190730/

Post Sep 16, 2016#11

Paarsurrey wrote:

There are many theories about the background of Veda people.

Some hold that Veda people were Aryans who entered the Indian-sub-Continent on chariots and on horse-backs invading the Indian-sub-Continent. One could see in Veda description of the horses, the chariots, the weaponry the Veda people had.

  1. Others hold that it was not an invasion, it was a migration, and the native locals dispersed to barren lands and remote places vacating the green pastures for the invaders/immigrants, happily, while the natives were also agriculturists or animal tenders.
    • Those who subscribe to this view admit that there was war, they name it “Battle of 10 Kings” while this name is not perhaps mentioned in Veda.
    • Veda is full of words of war,battles, foes, enemies etc. And such words are almost in every chapter of the Yajurveda. So, the Veda people were warriors.
    • Did they fight all these battles before invasion/migration to the Indian-sub-Continent? They provide no details.

There are other theories also, each has impossibilities of its own.

Neither Veda solves them nor the holders of such theories. Please

Regards

Post Sep 14, 2016#1

Paarsurrey wrote:

1. There is no archaeological evidence to support that Vedic people ever lived in the Arctic.
2. Snow and ice which is everywhere in the Arctic is not mentioned in Veda, not to speak of mentioning it very frequently.
3. No animal, plant or bird specific to Arctic is mentioned in Veda.

Thread open to everybody. Please

Regards

Veda people never lived in Arctic. Did they?

October 13, 2016

ReligiousForums.com

http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/veda-people-never-lived-in-arctic-did-they.190730/page-2

Post Sep 21, 2016#29

 

Paarsurrey wrote:

Our friend @Aupmanyav@Aupmanyav has read it. So through a good friend it could be discussed. He could mention the valid points in the book, one by one here.
The book of BG Tilak’s is not that important. So, I will concentrate on Veda. Please
My points are ?

  1. Was Veda revealed in the Arctic?
  2. Was Veda revealed in the countries of Europe or in the Central Asia?
  3. Was Veda revealed in the Indian-sub-Continent?
  4. Was Veda revealed elsewhere?
  5. Was Veda partially revealed in any one of the above and partially in others?

These are the questions which need to be focused and answered. Right? Please
Anybody, please

Regards

Post Sep 21, 2016#25

Paarsurrey wrote:

Veda people never lived in Arctic. Did they?

I quick searched the following from Archaeology of the Arctic and its people:

Last glacial period – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Late Glacial Maximum – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Humans Were Living in the Arctic 15,000 Years Earlier Than We …
Arctic Studies Center – Resources – Frequently Asked Questions
Pleistocene Epoch: Facts About the Last Ice Age – Live Science
Ancient migration: Coming to America : Nature News & Comment
American Beginnings: The Prehistory and Palaeoecology of Beringia
[BOOK] Ancient people of the Arctic
The stone age of Kamchatka and the Chukchi Peninsula in the light of new archaeological data
NN Dikov, GH Clark – Arctic Anthropology, 1965 – JSTOR
PDF] Mamontovaya Kurya: an enigmatic, nearly 40 000 years old Paleolithic site in the Russian Arctic
[PDF] Environmental approaches to the prehistory of the north

OOOOOOOOOOOOO

I found no mention/clue about the Arya or Aryan people in Archaeology of the Arctic . If I missed one, please let us know. Right? Please
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Veda people never lived in Arctic. Did they?

October 13, 2016

ReligiousForums.com

http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/veda-people-never-lived-in-arctic-did-they.190730/page-3

Post Sep 23, 2016#49

Paarsurrey Post  #42

Paarsurrey wrote:

I don’t buy/subscribe to any specific theory about Veda people . My question is very simple. Who were the enemies whom Veda People faced in millions and with whom they were at war?:

Yajurveda CHAPTER VI

18. O warlike hero, may thy mind in battle be filled with know-
ledge, and thy breath be united to life’s force. O hero, thou art the
killer of foes. May the fire of righteous indignation created by battle
mature thee. Facing millions of the army of enemies, let not the heat
generated by battle disturb thee.

May thou get refreshing drinks to fight in war with the velocity
of wind, and speed of the sun.
https://archive.org/stream/yajurveda029670mbp/yajurveda029670mbp_djvu.txt

Where these war took place and when? in the Indian-sub-Continent or out side of it? Please identify the belligerents.

Anybody, please
Regards

 

Aryan invaders did not merge peacefully with the indigenous Dravidians

July 22, 2015

<www.religiousforums.com>Thread:”How would you describe Hinduism to someone?”

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Post #7
Paarsurrey wrote:
Aryans merged​

Were not Aryans, the invaders? How peaceful the merger was with the original inhabitants?
Anybody, please
Regards

Post #9
Paarsurrey wrote:

Aryan invaders merge with the indigenous Dravidian people

“the Aryans arrived in north India somewhere from Iran and southern Russia at around 1500 BC. Before the Aryans, the Dravidian people resided in India. The Aryans disregarded the local cultures. They began conquering and taking control over regions in north India and at the same time pushed the local people southwards or towards the jungles and mountains in north India. According to this historical fact the general division of Indian society is made. North Indians are Aryans and south Indians are Dravidians. But this division isn’t proper because of many reasons.”
Aryans and Dravidians

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“Hinduism” is a misnomer

July 22, 2015

<www.religiousforums.com>Thread:”How would you describe Hinduism to someone?”

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Post #1

It is a question in Hinduism DIR sub-forum; I could not answer it there.
I answer it here:

It is a misnomer.​

Regards

A Jaw Breaking Response to P N Oak And His Lies!

By Imran Khan

http://kaabaisnotahindutemple.blogspot.ca/2011/10/jaw-breaking-response-to-p-n-oak-and.html

Hinduism is Monotheistic

July 21, 2015

<www.religiousforums.com> Thread:”Hinduism is Monotheistic!”

Post #1

Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1 says, “He is one only without a second.”
Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9 says, “Oh him there are neither parents or lord”
Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19 says, “there is no likeness of him”
Yajurveda 32:3 says, “There is no image of him”
Yajurveda 40:8 says, “He is bodyless and pure”
Yajurveda 40:9 says, “They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements” (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). “They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti.”
Sambhuti means created things like a table, idol, etc.
Rigveda 1:164:46 says, “Sages (learned Priests) call ONE God by many names.”
Yajurveda 32:3 says, “There is no image of him”
Rigveda 8:1:! says, “O friends, do not worship ANYBODY BUT HIM, the divine one, praise him ALONE”
The Brahma Sutra of Hinduism is
“There is only one God, not the second; not at ALL, NOT AT ALL, not in the least bit”

So…Hinduism says only one God!

ABOUT “HINDU” AND “HINDUISM”

July 21, 2015

Paarsurrey quotes here for the benefit of public.

QUOTES ABOUT “HINDU” AND “HINDUISM”

by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati
SwamiJ.com

There are many valuable quotes, some are given below:

http://www.swamij.com/hindu-word.htm#quotes

Quote

“The word Hindu is also not mentioned in holy books, Upanishads, Shashtras and Valmiki Ramayan, Shatpath Brahmin Granth etc. And in these holy books there is not any word Hindus or sects or caste system, where as it is clearly mentioned in every chapter of thereof that there is only one God of the Universe.”

“The name Hinduism is a misnomer and of a foreign coinage. Indeed the term Hindu is found nowhere in the Vedic scriptures, nor can it be found in any classical texts of Sanatana Dharma.”

“According to Jawaharlal Nehru, the earliest reference to the word ‘Hindu’ can be traced to a Tantrik book of the eighth century C.E., where the word means a people, and not the followers of a particular religion. The use of the word ‘Hindu’ in connection with a particular religion is of very late occurrence.”

Unqoute

http://www.swamij.com/hindu-word.htm#quotes

Was Hinduism Invented by Britons?

July 21, 2015

Was Hinduism Invented?

Paarsurrey quotes for the public interest and benefit:

Quote:

Was Hinduism Invented?: Britons, Indians, and the Colonial Construction of Religion
Brian K. Pennington

Is “Hinduism” a legitimate term for the widely varying religious practices of India that are commonly called by that name? The appearance of “religion” as a category comprising a set of practices and beliefs allegedly found in every culture dates from the modern period, emerging as Europe expanded trade abroad and established its first colonial relations in the 17th and 18th centuries. Hinduism emerged in the encounter between modernity’s greatest colonial power, Great Britain, and the jewel of her imperial crown, India. Around the turn of the 19th century, officials of the British colonial state and Christian missionaries helped cement the idea that regional and sectarian traditions in India possessed a sufficient coherence to be construed as a single, systematic religion. This encounter was deeply shaded by the articulation and development of the concept of “religion”, and it produced the now common idea that Hinduism is a unified religion. The Bengal Presidency, home of Calcutta — capital of colonial India and center of economic gravity in the eastern hemisphere — emerged as the locus of ongoing and direct contact between Indians and colonial officials, journalists, and missionaries. Drawing on a large body of previously untapped literature, including documents from the Church Missionary Society and Bengali newspapers, this book presents a portrait of the process by which “Hinduism” came into being. It argues against the common idea that the modern construction of religion in colonial India was simply a fabrication of Western Orientalism and missionaries. Rather, it involved the active agency and engagement of Indian authors who interacted, argued, and responded to British authors over key religious issues such as image-worship, satī, tolerance, and conversion. This book retells the story of Christians’ and Hindus’ reception of each other in the early 19th century in a way that takes seriously the power of their religious worldviews to shape the encounter itself and help produce the very religions that colonialism thought it “discovered”. While post-colonial theory can illuminate issues of power and domination, the history of religions reminds us of the continuing importance of the sacred and spiritual dimensions of the peoples under colonial rule.” Unquote

http://www.oxfordscholarship.com/view/10.1093/0195166558.001.0001/acprof-9780195166552

“Myth of One Hindu Religion”

July 20, 2015

Paarsurrey quotes in the public interest.

RaceandHistory.com

Amon
Myth of One Hindu Religion PT 2

By
Hadwa Dom

Quote:

“Invention of Hinduism by English Census-Compilers

The English census-compilers were assigned the daunting task of conducting the Indian head-count by the British government. These people were not theologians, and coined the term `Hindu’ as a blanket term to encompass several religions. Thus a `Hindu’ was defined in the Census as anybody who was not Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, or Jain. It was thus an exclusivist term: Hinduism was defined by what it was not, and not by what it was. It is hence entirely unsuitable as a definition. Later the term Sanatana Dharma was invented to deliberately submerge the English creation of Hinduism. In the words of the Babri Masjid archive [ Basic ] :

” Finding it difficult to get the names of the religions of these communities, the British writers gave them the word”Hinduism” to be used as a common name for all of their religions in about 1830.”
— [ Basic citing EB 20:581]

Indeed, the concept of Hinduism was invented by the English with the ulterior motive of making their loyal servents, the Aryan Brahmins, the rulers of India. ” Unquote

http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/NoDefinitionofHinduism2.htm

I thought Hinduism was peaceful

April 3, 2013

Paarsurrey:

I thought Hinduism was peaceful.

Is it a different story?

Correct me if I Was wrong? Please

Today marks the birth anniversary of Shrimant Bajirao Peshwa, a notable Indian warrior and statesman whose military campaigns and able governance changed the face of the Maratha Empire at its heyday in the 18th century. While he was notably revered during the days of Maratha struggles against Mughal domination and its attendant religious persecution, today his deeds and nobility are virtually unknown outside his native Maharashtra and many contemporary citizens of the Republic of India would meet the mention of his name with a blank and confused expression.

Born on the 18th of August 1700, Bajirao was the eldest son of Peshwa Balaji Vishwanath Rao. A peshwa was essentially a Marathi version of a modern prime minister and was a position created by Chhatrapati Shivaji, the revered architect of the Maratha polity and who is still now a great source of pride to Marathis. They were royal chief executives who…

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