Posts Tagged ‘earth’

“interfaith movement in the United States is growing”

March 2, 2014

amir Hussain

The Challenges of Interfaith Dialogue

“The interfaith movement in the United States is growing. Led by organizations like the Interfaith Youth Core in Chicago, the Pluralism Project at Harvard, and the groundswell movement founded by Ms. Valarie Kaur (to name just a few), more and more Americans are engaging with people of different religious and spiritual identities than themselves. The mainstream media has finally started to pick up on this trend. Major news outlets like the New York Times, Washington Post, Public Broadcasting Service, and The Huffington Post frequently report on interreligious engagement.” Unquote

One may like to read 610 words more of the article From Huffing Post, America by clicking the following link.





Jesus remained on Earth till his natural death

April 22, 2013

Bryan Says:

Mormon’s believe that Jesus went to America. Call me skeptical but I think these are instances where other religions want “Jesus” to “rubber stamp” their own beliefs. Why should I believe Jesus went to India rather than to America after his life in Israel?

Paarsurrey says:

I don’t understand your stance.

Simply if Mormons claim that Jesus went to America does not make their claim right. You have to look into the arguments one gives. If there are people who say that Jesus went to other places after the event of crucifixion in which he survived and was delivered in a near dead-position; that proves that Jesus did not ascend to the heavens; he remained on Earth till his natural death.

Jesus had not an iota of divinity in him

February 26, 2010

It is stated above:

“Christians believe that Jesus Christ was the divine clothed in human flesh.”

I don’t agree with the so called “Christians” who believe in the above superstitious creed of Jesus being God.

Jesus had not an iota of divinity in him; not a single attribute of God Allah YHWH was in Jesus. Jesus was a man through and through.
Jesus did not create a new Sun, a new Moon or a new Earth, literally.

Did he?

Everything remained the same as done by the Creator- God Allah YHWH since inception.

It is only a superstition of the followers of Paul called “Christians”- a misnomer, as they hardly believe anything Jesus or Mary believed in.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

“Word become flesh”- a wrong notion of Catholics Protestants if taken literally

February 10, 2010

somethingcrazy Says:

If you want to see that Jesus created, then just check out the first verses of John’s gospel:
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning”

paarsurrey Says:

Hi friend somethingcrazy

I thank you for participating in the discussion.
Please go through the passages quoted by you again. I don’t see Jesus’ name mentioned in them; if I have missed please underline Jesus’ name in them.

I think it is only a guess of the Catholics Protestants that Jesus’ name has been literally mentioned there; maybe it is just another phenomenon, which John, only a human being wrongly took up like that; nevertheless it is not binding on others to subscribe to John’s mistakes or his wrong views or concepts.

I think it is a mistake of our Christian friends to make Jesus a god; like our Hindu friends have made Krishna a god, in my opinion.
But for Paul; Jesus truthful followers would have never taken Jesus to be a god. Matthew, Marks and Luke did not mention that Word has become flesh.

You might have spoken many words in your life. Did you ever see that any of your Word has become flesh? Your Word would have never even smelt like flesh. It is your tongue and lips and your throat made of flesh that help one to make words, and of course the teeth made of bones, which helps to make the words. The reverse phenomenon never happens, in my opinion.

It is just a mistake of John, or those who wrote for John that they thought otherwise, in my opinion.

Jesus never thought like this; how could he had claimed to be god when he knew that he literally created no new Sun, no new Moon and no new Earth. It is only an accusation of Catholics Protestants against Jesus that Jesus claimed to be literally god.

Jesus could have asserted himself for his claims and reasons more clearly and in a straightforward manner. Whom Jesus as a god had to fear about? Jesus needed no self-appointed spokesmen like Paul or Church, in my opinion. Since Jesus was not god so he did not claim it unequivocally.

I love Jesus for his wisdom. Jesus feared nobody except God Allah YHWH whose humble servant Jesus was, in my opinion.


I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Jesus created nothing; he was no god

January 28, 2010

paarsurrey Says:
January 28, 2010 at 2:43 pm

Hi friend sch

Now see my friend; how many prophecies of Jesus you have mentioned in your post (which I have described as ocean of words); I have counted them to be 25 in number, if not more. So that makes Jesus a good Prophet Messenger of Creator-God Allah YHWH and that is all.

It proves that Jesus was not a god. Had Jesus been a god; then you would have mentioned things created by Jesus? Jesus did not create anything; everything was as before him.

If you want to prove Jesus to be a creator-god; mention things he created; Jesus did not create anything. Please mention as many things created by Jesus at least 25 of them like Sun, Moon and Earth; not even one of these.

The sign- the biggest one of Jesus, was that of Jonah- the Prophet; not of any god or of the Creator.
I think, now you understand and agree with me.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.


Jesus made good his escape to India

January 23, 2010

Aaron Says:

Hi again,

I agree with you that Deuteronomy 13 is relevant to the charge for which Jesus was condemned (along with other passages such as Leviticus 24:16).

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend Aaron

I thank you for acknowledging that the Jews tried to punish Jesus for his claim of Prophet-hood or Messenger-ship; and it was not for Jesus claiming any divinity which Jesus had never done in literal terms.
Jesus never claimed any literal divinity (being the Creator- God Allah YHWH) in him and he never showed any signs for that. Jesus did not create any Sun to make two Suns; or he did not create any more Moons to make them two moons or a further additional Earth where people could go and inhibit it ; everything remained the same as far the creation is concerned; there was no visible or invisible change in the Universe. Jesus only claimed being a Messenger or Prophet like so many before him.

Jesus could therefore not claim any deity for himself.
It is Paul who claimed it for Jesus only to be-fool the so called “Christians”. Paul frustrated the claim Jesus had made of a truthful Prophet Messenger. Paul on the face of it promoted Jesus from a Prophet Messenger to a god; and in reality with cunning-ness he deprived him of the both. He made Jesus a false Messenger Prophet by hanging him on the Cross with the purpose of dieing on the Cross; and thus receiving and acknowledging receipt and execution of the punishment prescribed by Moses for a false Prophet Messenger.

Since Jesus did not die on the Cross, after treatment in the tomb where he was laid, of his injuries inflicted on him on the Cross he made good his escape to India; so the basis carved by Paul for Jesus’ divinity never materialized.

Paul succeeded in be-fooling the Catholics Protestants; till such time this infamy put on Jesus by Paul was exposed by Muhammad when he exonerated Jesus of such wrongs by receiving a Word from the Creator-God Allah YHWH.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.


Quran/Islam will spread to the corners of the Earth

November 9, 2009

Apostate wrote:

We will see Demise of Islam in our own lifetime

Paarsurrey wrote:

Hi friends

As per the system of successor-ship mentioned in Quran, the above is not going to happen, for sure:

[24:52] The response of the believers, when they are called to Allah and His Messenger in order that he may judge between them, is only that they say: ‘We hear and we obey.’ And it is they who will prosper.
[24:53] And whoso obeys Allah and His Messenger, and fears Allah, and takes Him as a shield for protection, it is they who will be successful.
[24:54] And they swear by Allah their strongest oaths that, if thou command them, they will surely go forth. Say, ‘Swear not; what is required is actual obedience in what is right. Surely, Allah is well aware of what you do.’
[24:55] Say, ‘Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger.’ But if you turn away, then upon him is his burden, and upon you is your burden. And if you obey him, you will be rightly guided. And the messenger is not responsible but for the plain delivery of the Message.

[24:56] Allah has promised to those among you who believe and do good works that He will surely make them Successors in the earth, as He made Successors from among those who were before them; and that He will surely establish for them their religion which He has chosen for them; and that He will surely give them in exchange security and peace after their fear: They will worship Me, and they will not associate anything with Me. Then whoso is ungrateful after that, they will be the rebellious.

[24:57] And observe Prayer and give the Zakat and obey the Messenger, that you may be shown mercy.
[24:58] Think not that those who disbelieve can frustrate Our plan in the earth; their abode is Hell; and it is indeed an evil resort.
[24:59] O ye who believe! let those whom your right hands possess, and those of you who have not attained to puberty, ask leave of you at three times before coming into your presence: before the morning Prayer, and when you take off your clothes at noon in summer, and after the night Prayer. These are three times of privacy for you. At times other than these there is no blame on you or on them, for they have to move about waiting upon you, some of you attending upon others. Thus does Allah make plain to you the Signs; for Allah is All-Knowing, Wise.
[24:60] And when the children among you attain to puberty, they too should ask permission, even as those mentioned before them asked permission. Thus does Allah make plain to you His commandments; and Allah is All-Knowing, Wise. … 4&verse=50

With the advent of the Promised Messiah 1835-1908; the dark age of Islam is ended and Islam has taken a new turn as prophesized by Muhammad himself.

Islam would spread to the corners of the Earth as revealed on the Second Coming 1835-1908 very peacefully and with bright arguments convincing everybody on this planet to the fold of Islam.

We are not worried about the apostates; they would also be welcome home.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.


No “Good without God?”: Jesus neither god nor Son of god

October 29, 2009

Hi friends

It is no good without the Creator-God Allah YHWH. It is very unnatural not to believe in the Creator- God Allah YHWH. It is just like believing that one was born without one’s parents. One has not seen one’s father mating with one’s mother even then one believes that one has a father. One has not seen one’s mother giving one birth yet one is not in doubt of one’ mother; so one very naturally believes in one’s mother and father and is never in doubt.

One knows that one’s mother and father had taken pains in upbringing one; they did it with love in a very natural way. It is no good without the father and mother; and in the same way it is no good without the Creator-God Allah YHWH.

Through the parents the Creator-God Allah YHWH gives us a taste of His Grace, Mercy.

We got born of our parents; when we were nothing; if left unattended, unfed we would have not survived and died in our infancy, not even knowing that we were ever born. From infancy, we reached childhood, adulthood, old age; so it all evolved very naturally. It is against evolution and progression not believing in the Creator- God Allah YHWH.

All we see in the Universe is the Work of the Creator- God Allah YHWH. All our knowledge and sciences are based on knowing the laws of nature that the Creator has set in motion; without His Work, there would be no knowledge and no sciences.

It is his benevolence that He did not leave us alone and through the perfect men called Messengers Prophets he sent his Revelations so that we may know about his attributes and other things most essential for our ethical, moral and spiritual advancement; from the unseen realm. This is called the Word of the Creator- God Allah YHWH.

I think without the Work of God or without the Word of god; we will be worse off in our lives.

Is there a doubt in Allah the Creator of the heavens and earth? (Quran)
Jesus was however not a god or a Son of god.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.


I am an Ahmadi peaceful Musli

Please quote a passage from Quran where Islam/Quran/Muhammad ‎makes it mandatory ‎for a Muslim to marry with a child and not with an adult?‎

July 13, 2009‎allowed/‎

‎3. paarsurrey Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 4:36 pm

Hi friends Poma and Pathfinder

Would you please mention the passage from Quran where Islam/Quran/Muhammad ‎‎makes it mandatory on a Muslim to marry only with a child and not with an adult?

It is only an optional question; no compulsion.

All human beings are just like a family in this little village called Earth; I love them all ‎‎and hate none.


I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

All human beings are just like a family in this little village called Earth

July 13, 2009

‎12. paarsurrey Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

May I ask you as to what were your faith, denomination, and religion before you ‎joined ‎the present one; please mention the name of the new ‎faith/denomination/religion also.

‎1.‎ Mumin Salih
‎2.‎ kenmirzz
‎3.‎ Poma
‎4.‎ Proudkafir
‎5.‎ Pathfinder
‎6.‎ A0000Z
‎7.‎ redjupiter58

I already know that friend Shafee al-Zindig was Hanafi Sunni (Deobandi or Brailvi; he ‎‎has not mentioned) and he is a freethinker as he described elsewhere.

Please don’t mind; no compulsion.

All human beings are just like a family in this little village called Earth; I don’t hate ‎‎anyone, rather I love them all.


I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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