PAARSURREY says:
March 21, 2014 at 9:59 pm
@JOHN ZANDE says:March 21, 2014 at 8:46 pm
“Clearly there must be some sanction somewhere, else Islam wouldn’t have such a vibrant history of slavery. Christianity, of course, is no better. One’s as archaic as the other.”
It is the rulers that do such things; they do things in the name of religion; and exploit people under cover.
Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster, Moses, Jesus, Socrates, Muhammad (and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad- the rightful successor of Muhammad in our present era) gave no teachings to make others a slave. There is no such teaching in Quran; I am absolutely certain about it.
Other founders of religions- the Messengers Prophets of the One-True-God whose names I have given above- their followers are exhorted to defend them in this connection in the first place.
If they fail to defend them; then I will defend them also after purification of their scriptures as per principles outlined in Quran.
Please get help from other Atheists/Agnostics/Skeptics/Humanists who have read Quran themselves; to kindly quote just a single verse, repeat a single verse, from Quran in this connection. Please don’t give a list; if one has a list then select ONE verse that justify your viewpoint the most, for discussion here.
One could contact the person who wrote the article on the subject from the link provided by one and get help from him, if he can help.
Thanks and regards
PAARSURREY says:
March 22, 2014 at 4:59 pm
@BOBBIERILEYJR says:March 22, 2014 at 12:12 am
“Most telling is that slavery is still practiced in the Sudan, Niger, Mauritania and a few other corners of the Muslim world.” Unquote
It has got nothing to do with Quran/Islam/Muhammad. There is no commandment or teaching in Quran to make one a slave.
I think it will be clear to one if one listens the following Friday Sermon from Mirza Masroor Ahmad- the Head of the World-Wide Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.
He is the fifth rightful Successor to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908) – The Promised Messiah – The Second Coming:
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVBxj5rVA8k?feature=player_embedded&w=640&h=360%5D
The original Sermon was delivered in Urdu; its translations are available in following languages:
Urdu, English, Albanian, Arabic, Bengali, Bosnian, Bulgarian, French, German, Indonesian, Malayalam, Russian, Spanish, Swahili, Tamil, Turkish
Please click the language of your choice by accessing the following link:
http://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/2011-11-25.html
PAARSURREY says:
March 23, 2014 at 9:19 pm
@BOBBIERILEYJR says: March 22, 2014 at 8:01 pm
“A fatwa” Unqoute
A fatwa means an opinion. Opinions could differ; it could be and is an unsubstantiated opinion and not supported by the context verses of Quran or other verses of Quran.
A fatwa is not a verse of Quran; and is not binding on others.
If a sinful Mullah believes wrongly for his vested interest; he is responsible for it not Quran/Islam/Muhammad.
You have referred to Chapter 23; please read the following four pages in its verse 23:7 for its explanation:
http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1781®ion=E1&CR=
http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1782®ion=E1
http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1783®ion=E1
http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1784®ion=E1
It will make things clear for you.
Regards
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March 22, 2014 at 3:40 pm |
Hey paarsurrey 🙂 hope you are going well
I will take your word that there is no slavery in the Quran, I assume you are a much more informed student than me. I have to ask though, why is it that Muslim extremists seem to be recruiting so many young people? One of my best friends is Muslim. He’s from Somalia. And he was forced to leave on a protection visa to Australia, because al shabaab (youth who have been brainwashed by extreme Muslims) continued to kill and torture in the name of Allah. I’ll be honest, I suspect you are defending Islam because you were raised in Islam, which is fine 🙂 But I’d be interested to ask: what drives you to believe?
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March 22, 2014 at 5:45 pm |
Thanks for visiting my blog and commenting here.
I appreciate you for taking my word on slavery that there is no commandment or teaching in Quran to make one a slave.
For additional information you may listen to the following YouTube cassette on the subject:
http://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/2011-11-25.html
Regarding your comments :
“I’ll be honest, I suspect you are defending Islam because you were raised in Islam, which is fine 🙂 But I’d be interested to ask: what drives you to believe?”
May I ask you; what is your religion and denomination?
I do defend my religion Islam but with good arguments and reasons. I believe in it very naturally; I have of yet found no good argument that convinces me of its being wrong.
I am open to listen to others; their reasons and arguments. Please feel free to express yourself fully even if you differ with me.
Thanks and regards.
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