Posts Tagged ‘in the name of Religion’

There is no slavery in Quran; absolutely none

March 21, 2014

http://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/hermeneutics-2/comment-page-1/#comment-13359

PAARSURREY says:
March 21, 2014 at 9:59 pm

@JOHN ZANDE says:March 21, 2014 at 8:46 pm

“Clearly there must be some sanction somewhere, else Islam wouldn’t have such a vibrant history of slavery. Christianity, of course, is no better. One’s as archaic as the other.”

It is the rulers that do such things; they do things in the name of religion; and exploit people under cover.

Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster, Moses, Jesus, Socrates, Muhammad (and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad- the rightful successor of Muhammad in our present era) gave no teachings to make others a slave. There is no such teaching in Quran; I am absolutely certain about it.

Other founders of religions- the Messengers Prophets of the One-True-God whose names I have given above- their followers are exhorted to defend them in this connection in the first place.

If they fail to defend them; then I will defend them also after purification of their scriptures as per principles outlined in Quran.

Please get help from other Atheists/Agnostics/Skeptics/Humanists who have read Quran themselves; to kindly quote just a single verse, repeat a single verse, from Quran in this connection. Please don’t give a list; if one has a list then select ONE verse that justify your viewpoint the most, for discussion here.

One could contact the person who wrote the article on the subject from the link provided by one and get help from him, if he can help.

Thanks and regards

http://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/hermeneutics-2/comment-page-1/#comment-13372

PAARSURREY says:
March 22, 2014 at 4:59 pm

@BOBBIERILEYJR says:March 22, 2014 at 12:12 am
“Most telling is that slavery is still practiced in the Sudan, Niger, Mauritania and a few other corners of the Muslim world.” Unquote

It has got nothing to do with Quran/Islam/Muhammad. There is no commandment or teaching in Quran to make one a slave.
I think it will be clear to one if one listens the following Friday Sermon from Mirza Masroor Ahmad- the Head of the World-Wide Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.

He is the fifth rightful Successor to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908) – The Promised Messiah – The Second Coming:
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVBxj5rVA8k?feature=player_embedded&w=640&h=360%5D

The original Sermon was delivered in Urdu; its translations are available in following languages:

Urdu, English, Albanian, Arabic, Bengali, Bosnian, Bulgarian, French, German, Indonesian, Malayalam, Russian, Spanish, Swahili, Tamil, Turkish

Please click the language of your choice by accessing the following link:

http://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/2011-11-25.html

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PAARSURREY says:
March 23, 2014 at 9:19 pm

@BOBBIERILEYJR says: March 22, 2014 at 8:01 pm
“A fatwa” Unqoute

A fatwa means an opinion. Opinions could differ; it could be and is an unsubstantiated opinion and not supported by the context verses of Quran or other verses of Quran.

A fatwa is not a verse of Quran; and is not binding on others.

If a sinful Mullah believes wrongly for his vested interest; he is responsible for it not Quran/Islam/Muhammad.

You have referred to Chapter 23; please read the following four pages in its verse 23:7 for its explanation:

http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1781&region=E1&CR=
http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1782&region=E1
http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1783&region=E1
http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=1784&region=E1

It will make things clear for you.

Regards

Playing politics “in the name of Atheism” rather than sticking to reason and tolerance

March 6, 2014

Paarsurrey at blog: “Confessions Of A YEC”

“Mis-quoting others, atheists being dicks”

http://confessionsofayec.wordpress.com/
http://confessionsofayec.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/mis-quoting-others-atheists-being-dicks/#comment-1264

paarsurrey | March 6, 2014 at 20:09

@ confessionsofayec

“Now this particular individual is rather outspoken and like to say things that shock and will argue them until the other party gives up. Some of his posts and comments are so abrasive that my wife has blocked his comments from showing on her feed. He certainly isn’t the type to admit a mistake easily, so I wasn’t particularly surprised when his response to my correction was to reply that whoever said it, it was effing funny.

It is this kind of atheist that, sadly, gives the rest of us a bad name and it is this kind of mentality that, also sadly, many people of a religious persuasion imagine when they think of atheists. I know that is the sort of person I thought most atheists were because that is what I had been warned about many times growing up.

The truth of course, is that this is not characteristic of most atheists, it is simply that this is the kind of atheist that gets noticed the most.” Unquote

I don’t think there are many serious and positive atheists anymore. From the time they had started sort of following Richard Dawkins as their leader; under his direction they have adopted derision and ridicule as their prime tool of “Atheistic preaching”; this has taken them afar from reason and dialogue. This has made them stubborn, arrogant and intolerant of others. They enjoy fellow atheists who support them and sort of reassure them of their ideology “atheism”.
I would say the new-atheists; about 99% of them have become like this.

One other dilemma of a universal divide is that the Atheists almost collectively are siding with the religious extremists; that they are bent upon proving that Religions teach violence even to the moderate adherents of religions; I don’t know what benefit accrues to them from this.

In my opinion they are creating a wrong religious phobia.

If there had been people with vested interests who played politics “in the name of religion”, now there are people who play politics “in the name of Atheism” and the like; flip side of the same coin.

Of course on could differ with me; but that is my experience with the Atheists.

One needs to come out of the Anti-Religion syndrome

February 13, 2010

http://anaturalphilosophy.com/2009/07/10/yes-you-can-free-yourself-from-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-1994

Hi friends

The humanity sometimes has been exploited in the name of Religion, but not by the truthful ones; it were the fake ones who did it. It is good if someone comes out of these so called Religionists.

The same way some Atheists do exploit the ordinary man in the name of humanity, in the name of peace, in the name of science; it is sheer exploitation, nothing more than that.

If one needs to come out of a Religion syndrome; the same way one needs to come out of the Anti-Religion syndrome.

One has to be on the moderation; beware of the extremists/exploiters, please.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim