Posts Tagged ‘Word of Revelation’

Woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: ‘This is from God,’

April 9, 2014

The viewers should access the following link to know the context of the discussion; and only then one should form one’s own sincere and independent opinion.

http://trueandreasonable.co/2014/04/07/is-god-horrible/comment-page-1/#comment-969

paarsurreysaid:
April 9, 2014 at 11:25 am

@ trueandreasonable
“Ok so now many atheists want to say God is a “murderer!” He asked/commanded people to kill others. We have such stories in the Old Testament. How can we worship such a God?

Well first of all I tend not to believe the Old Testament is literal. I think the Old Testament is by and large a collection of stories. Yes the Holy Spirit inspired them but how exactly that works, I do not pretend to speak for that Holy Spirit. But even an atheist should consider that Jewish scripture consists of what possibly the very best and brightest cultures thought was some of their best literature. I agree some books do nothing for me but other books I find delightful and wonderful. I am somewhat saddened when I see people reading it only for the purpose they want to get out of it instead of thinking about what the author was up to.” Unquote

Sorry friend; I disagree with you.

The author of a book of a Bible has no right to write a religious scripture unless he has received Word of Revelation from the One-True-God. How an author who has received no revelation and is writing with his own sinful hands can claim it to be from God or inspired by God or even inspired by an angel?*

The angles (Holy Spirits) only do what they are commanded to do by God; they cannot do anything on their own.**
If the author has received a Word of Revelation from God then he should expressly mention it that this is a message from God.

If he does not mention it; then he is simply a sinful person faking a scripture and should not be believed in. ***
Such fictional stories should not be believed in.

A truthful Christian should not insist on these stories to be true; it is for this that people get frustrated and leave religion altogether.
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[2:80] Woe, therefore, to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: ‘This is from Allah,’ that they may take for it a paltry price. Woe, then, to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they earn.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=2&verse=79
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[16:50] And whatever is in the heavens and whatever creature is in the earth submitshumbly to Allah, and the angels too, and they do not behave proudly.
[16:51] They fear their Lord above them, and do what they are commanded.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=16&verse=50
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[3:95] Now whoso forges a lie against Allah after this, then it is these that are the wrongdoers.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=3&verse=94

Regards

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“Religion and the former intellectual capital of the world”

February 24, 2014

I wrote following comments: blog “Enquiries on Atheism” : topic “Religion and the former intellectual capital of the world”; link below:

http://atheistenquiry.org/
http://atheistenquiry.org/2014/02/19/religion-and-the-former-intellectual-capital-of-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-4568

paarsurrey
February 24, 2014 • 4:06 pm

@ ALLALLT
I think you get the phenomenon wrong. Muhammad ;and I don’t deny great personages before him also like Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster, Moses, Socrates and Jesus, they all through Word of Revelation from the One-True-God, opened hearts and minds of the people for love of knowledge and truth and hence there was an explosion of great civilizations through them; later when people lost track of that truthful path revealed on such personages and enunciated by them and concentrated on the worldly and material benefits from the rulers of the time; the treasure of knowledge was lost .

Buddha had no characteristics of atheism in him

June 16, 2013

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Buddha got enlightenment, self awakening or transcendental knowledge which is nothing else than the Word of Revelation or Message from the one true God; and thereafter Buddha preached the message and when he was nearing death; he told his followers to continue preaching the message with forbearance and patience.

I think only that person can preach who is not in doubt; with certainty one could preach.
I don’t think preaching is a characteristic of atheism.

For Buddha’s fervor with preaching please view Gospel of Buddha Chapter 47 titled “The Preacher’s Mission” Verses 1-11 Pages 127-128 by accessing the following link:

http://www.mountainman.com.au/buddha/carus_47.htm

We don’t hate Atheists or Agnostics

May 8, 2013

I give here a post written by me for my favourite discussion forum on the thread

#99 Is Islam a universal religion.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/religious-debates/147598-islam-universal-religion-10.html#post3320290

One may like to comment there in the forum or here in this blog, my pleasure:

“We don’t hate Atheists or Agnostics. They deny Word of Revelation al-right but they uphold reason and rationality; two of the three sources of human knowledge, so dear to a truthful believer. We don’t judge them; to do absolute judgement is an attribute of the Lord of the Day of Judgement  and that would be in the afterlife. They are with us fighting against mythical concepts and superstitions.

Just for non-believing there is no retribution in this world; unless one becomes a hardened enemy additionally with non-believing.

Atheists or Agnostics are an important segment of humans though they claim to have no religion as I understand; yet we have all love and sympathy with them; they could join the truthful religion as and when they are convinced heart and soul; the door is open to them as it is to anybody else.

This way the universality of the truthful religion remains intact, in my opinion.

That is what I believe sincerely; others could differ with me; no compulsion.”

Another post in the same thread from Paarsurrey:

#109

” The topic is not ‘Is Islam the only universal religion’; it is ‘Is Islam a universal religion’, I think for the purpose of this discussion we don’t have to make it exclusive for other religions.

To make it exclusive for a religion; that religion must provide the claim and reason both from their original Word revealed in the original language; if not in detail at least in germane.”

Revelation proves the existence of God

April 8, 2013

It is through the Word of Revelation on the perfect persons called messengers or prophets in all parts and in all ages of the world that the existence of one true God is proved.

Big-foot, Unicorns etc.; cannot be proved by the scientific method valid for tangible and measurable things; nor these could be proved by Word of Revelation from the one true creator God; hence these are mythical imagination only; these have no reality; neither tangible reality nor intangible reality.

Word of Revelation that descended on Buddha, Krishna, Zoroaster, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad proves the existence of the one true Creator God.

Am I right?

Why all religions at the core are the same?

March 19, 2013

Because they all stem from the same source which, in my opinion, is Word of Revelation from the one true creator God that all great founders of the revealed religions received independently from God; not that they copied teachings from one another.

This is one of the evidences that God exists; despite being afar in time and location they got the same message. It is another story that the original message got blurred under the debris of time; as the followers of the founders of religions could not keep the message preserved and lost it in their denominational feuds.

Faith in Science

March 16, 2013

Paarsurrey says:

The chart prepared for science and faith is not comparable; science and religion both being in different domains should not be compared , in my opinion.

We do have faith in science, based on experiments, for its usefulness in the material and physical domains on one hand; but we also have faith in Religion on the other hand, for human rich heritage of experience based on Word of Revelation on great human beings- the founders of revealed Religion, in ethical, moral and spiritual domains where science is of no use at all.

Both need to be respected.

Leadership and Management / Turning Adversity to Advantage

Science and faith flow charts

  

more to come covering Pope Francis’ installation as well as Science and Engineering Week taking place.

While the Apostle’s Creed is well known to many of the Christian faith, Chet Raymo offers an alternative ‘Credo’ for the devotees in the cathedral of scientific faith (with the holy spirit of embracing failure especially in our knowledge imbued throughout.

  • Science is the most reliable way of knowing that humankind has yet devised. It relies as much as possible on the experimental method, quantitative data, peer review, reproducibility, and the firm application of Ockham’s Razor. Scientific knowledge is consensus knowledge. In seeking consensus, it makes no reference to nationality, race, ethnicity, politics, religion or gender. Textbook science is universal. Scientific knowledge is tentative and evolving. It chooses reliability over certainty. Science is radically open to marginal change, and marginally open to radical change. The proof of the pudding is in…

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Any religion based on Word of revelation from the Creator God is truthful

May 17, 2012

 

The religion that Moses brought was truthful in its origin. But now we don’t have anything written by Moses; or the plates that Moses had with teaching from YHWH written down on them; so the message is almost lost unless it is renewed; and there is no need now to change it.

 

Jews were chosen people in the sense that Moses got revelation from YHWH; it was an honor in the same sense as Hindus were chosen people as the Creator God had conversed with Krishna.

 

The leader is chosen and with that the whole of his people are thought to be chosen; nothing more than that; they have got no license to sin freely; if they do they would suffer as others would suffer, no discrimination.

 

Any religion, whatever its name if it is based on the Word of revelation from the Creator God is truthful in its origin as they all come from the same source- the Creator God.

 

Jesus was ignorant of the eschatology of the so called present “Christianity”

May 7, 2010

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/and-then-shall-all-the-tribes-of-the-earth-mourn-and-they-shall-see-the-son-of-man-coming-in-the-clouds-of-heaven-with-power-and-great-glory/#comment-1020#comment-1020

methodus wrote:

I could not tell where Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s commentary ended and where your opinions began. that said, it is clear that he either knows nothing about Christian eschatology or was intentionally lying to his audience.

paarsurrey Says:

Hi friend methodus

It is all from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908- the Promised Messiah- Imam Mahdi – The Second Coming of Jesus. In his first Coming Jesus never knew anything about Christian eschatology as the present “Christianity” was never founded by Jesus but by clever Paul and the Church. Jesus was a Jew and a follower of the teachings of Moses. It is therefore obvious that Jesus was neither aware of the eschatology of the so called “Christians” in his first coming; nor he needs it in the Second Coming. He is guided by the Word of Revelation from the Creator- God Allah YHWH and so he gives guidance to others very truthfully.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Sinful scribes were not eyewitnesses of crucifixion

November 16, 2009

http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=4808&p=80301#p80301

Islam poses no threat to the freedom of thought

ThereIs1Adonai wrote:

The Bible had many writers with revelations that added to the message of God, and they were often eyewitnesses to the events they wrote about.

Hi friend ThereIs1Adonai

I don’t agree with the contents of your post due to following reasons, to start with.

1. Paul never spent anytime with Jesus, he was therefore not an eyewitness; yet his accounts have been included in the Bible for nothing.
2. The theme of the Bible, a human devised theme, is to mention the event of the Cross. None of the four gospel writers was an eyewitness of the event of the crucifixion of Jesus. As per Matthew; they all fled away.
3. Jesus did receive Word of Revelation from the Creator-God Allah YHWH; none of the scribes of NT received any Word from the Creator- God Allah YHWH; they were not capable of receiving it as they were sinful persons. They deserted Jesus when he needed them most.
4. Even the account of the event of the Cross they wrote from hearsay was incorrect; as Jesus never died on Cross, he was though put on the Cross, yet he was delivered from it in a near-dead position. The Creator- God Allah YHWH saved his life like He saved Jonah’s life in a very difficult and odd postion. He was treated in the tomb he was laid in by his trusted friends and when his injuries inflicted on the Cross got healed he migrated to the lost sheep of Israel who were in exile.

Paul and the gospel writers were therefore, in my opinion, not trustworthy persons and Jesus had in effect warned against such persons.

Atheists Agnostics to please join the discussion on this issue believing in God and the Revelation first.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks