Posts Tagged ‘veil’

Sam Harris interviews Ayaan Hirsi Ali

May 10, 2014

Sam Harris blog
“Lifting the Veil of ‘Islamophobia’:A Conversation with Ayaan Hirsi Ali”

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/lifting-the-veil-of-islamophobia

I would have commented on Sam Harris’ blog but found no comments column on his blog, hence I am commenting here.

Paarsurrey says:

“She embraced Islam while she was growing up, but eventually began to question aspects of the faith”-

Anybody who is in a religion must be in for its core teachings; the other things are to be read and interpreted within the core teachings.

The interview fails to show as to why Ayaan Hirsi Ali embraced Islam in the first place. If she had embraced for the truth of Islam as described in its articles of faith or in the pillars of faith- the core teachings of Islam; then she would have remained in it whatever the suffering due to socio-cultural and political conditions prevailing part of the world she lived.

The socio cultural and political conditions could be reformed; and that is what she was supposed to be doing.

Instead, she opted to leap in the dark and went Atheist for no good reason.

What positive truth did she find in Atheism?

She fails to describe it in the interview.

She or any other Atheist could answer this question. Please

Full face veil in women might have originated in Africa- an opinion

March 20, 2013

I think full face veil in women originated in Africa and as humans spread from Africa to Europe and Asia it went with them there; please see the following:

1. Nandi People of Africa

“after Nandi girls have
been operated upon at puberty,
they must stay in their mothers’
huts in complete seclusion for a
month or more. After recovering
from the effects of the operation,
they may be married. But if no
husbands appear, the girls continue
to live in a secluded state for several
weeks longer. If they go abroad,
they must always wear long masks
and veils ; they must not stand near
anybody or call a person by name ;
they may not enter a cornfield or a
cattle-kraal; and they may do no
work. ^ Again, a Nandi bride, for
an entire month after her marriage,
is waited on by the bridegroom’s
mother, since it is unlawful for a
bride during this period to per-
form labour. Similarly, a Nandi
mother, after the birth of a child,
is unclean and may not do any
housework for a month.”

http://archive.org/stream/restdaysastudyi00websgoog/restdaysastudyi00websgoog_djvu.txt

2. MARRIAGE CEREMONIES AMONGST THE BAHIMA (East Africa).

“The young women are never consulted with regard to their
marriage. The young man never sees the girl’s face before
he applies to her father. Even then he cannot see it, though
she is usually present, closely veiled in a huge wrap of bark-
cloth. The Bahima women live in close retirement, and are
always veiled. In this respect they must not be confused with
the subject race, the Bairu (the singular form is Muiru). The
Bairu women go unveiled and work in the fields, but the
Bahima women never go unveiled and never work in the fields.
It is usual, when a Bahima woman is baptised on being con-
verted to Christianity, for her to uncover her face, but imme-
diately after the ceremony the covering is resumed, and on no
other occasion outside her private apartment does she leave
her face uncovered.”

Full text of “Uganda and its peoples; notes on the protectorate of Uganda, especially the anthropology and ethnology of its indigenous races”
http://archive.org/stream/ugandaitspeoples00cunniala/ugandaitspeoples00cunniala_djvu.txt

Burqa / Niqab were in use in OT

November 23, 2009

http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=4053&p=81775#p81775

Hi friends

Burqa and Niqab were in use in the House of Israel; it is mentioned in Torah:

Genesis 38:14

13 And it was told Thamar that her father in law was come up to Thamnas to shear his sheep. 14 And she put off the garments of her widowhood, and took a veil*: and changing her dress, sat in the cross way, that leadeth to Thamnas: because Sela was grown up, and she had not been married to him. 15 When Juda saw her, he thought she was a harlot: for she had covered her face, lest she should be known.

*”and took a veil: and changing her dress” this has been translated in the Urdu Catholic Bible ” aur Burqah ourha aur Niqab dala” which means she put on a Burqa and put on a Niqab. May be the Arabic Bible also uses the same words, I have not checked it.

So Burqah and Niqab were in vogue in Jacob’s time. Mary also used to be dressed fully, one could go and see in a church how the Christians project her. Similarly the nuns are also dressed in full.

Quran/Islam/Muhammad followed the same good tradition of Abraham’s family.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks