Posts Tagged ‘universe’

When the Big-Bang inflation occurred

June 21, 2015

<www.religiousforums.com > Thread:”When the Big-Bang inflation occurred it was extreme density and heat around it”.

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Post #1
Paarsurrey wrote and opened the thread thus:

Where did the cold come from in the space?

Note : In the human proverbial language where the science has no definite answer yet to give we say G-d did it. It does not stop the scientific probe of a Theist or an Atheist. It is convenient as well as accurate for an ordinary human being; why overburden one with the technicalities that have not yet proved to be factual and are not his field of life?

Regards

Post #4

Paarsurrey wrote:

Cold is opposite of hot; when it is not hot, it is cold.
Is it wrong? Please
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Post #7

Paarsurrey wrote:

Then it should be wrong to state that before inflation of Big-Bang, it was extreme dense and hot.
Right?

Post #10

Paarsurrey wrote:

Please elaborate for me.
Regards

Post #12

“The continuous expansion of the universe implies that the universe was denser and hotter in the past.”
“This singularity is sometimes called “the Big Bang”,[21]but the term can also refer to the early hot, dense phase itself,[22][notes 1]which can be considered the “birth” of our universe.”
“It is generally assumed that when the universe was young and very hot, it was in statistical equilibrium and contained equal numbers of baryons and antibaryons.”
“It is not known what could have preceded the hot dense state of the early universe or how and why it originated, though speculation abounds in the field ofcosmogony.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

Does your explanation cover the above phenomena?
Regards

Attributes of G-d uniquely manifested in the Word of G-d and the Work of G-d

May 13, 2015

Feel free to view ,comment and join discussion on< www.religiousforums.com > under the topic <Your best argument that god exists>.

http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/your-best-argument-that-god-exists.176665/page-10#post-4286889

Post #188

paarsurrey said:

I don’t agree with you.

The attributes are at work in the Universe/s since inception hence it is good and valid argument.
I am not convincing anybody per force and I don’t have to.

Paarsurrey wrote:

One attribute of G-d is mentioned in Quran (the secure and pristine Word of G-d) as Ahad one meaning of which is unique. Most (some may say that all ) big objects in the Universe (the Work of G-d) are round in shape or or tend to be round or a circle expressing in a way that as to Who have shaped them.

The Work of G-d and the Word of G-d thus correspond with one another.

Such are the attributes of G-d uniquely manifested in the Converse and the nature.

Is imitation of the same possible? I don’t think so.

Regards

Oneness of God is the fountain head of universe and science in it

June 3, 2014

http://fidedubitandum.wordpress.com/2014/06/02/queen-of-the-sciences/#comment-4342

paarsurrey
June 3rd, 2014 at 3:19 pm

The focal point is that Oneness of the One-True-God is the fountain head of the system working in the Universe. Had there been no system; there would have been no science.

If there had been many gods then there would have been many systems working in the Universe; it would have been archaic universe with no science.

If there had been no god, as the atheists would have one to believe; then there would have been no universe and no science.

Regards

“I SAW THE SUPERNOVA LAST NIGHT”

February 13, 2014

“I SAW THE SUPERNOVA LAST NIGHT”

My comments on blog “evidencebasedreality.com”; topic mentioned above; link below:

http://evidencebasedreality.com/
http://evidencebasedreality.com/2014/01/25/i-saw-the-supernova-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-197

Paarsurrey:

@ shelldigger
It sometimes looks strange to me; like an Atheist using a 12.5″ telescope to view a supernova “A star that blew up sometime around 12 million years ago, just became visible to us from our vantage point in the universe”; instead of insisting on seeing it with the naked eye or mere with “logic”.

On the other hand Atheists often insist seeing the One-True-God with their naked eye.

Is not it a contradiction on their part?

Please
http://evidencebasedreality.com/2014/01/25/i-saw-the-supernova-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-197

what would a god look like?

August 17, 2013

Paarsurrey says:
“we have to acknowledge that any existence outside of this universe is beyond our comprehension”

I agree with the above.
The truthful religion describes it like this:

[39:68] And they do not esteem Allah, with the esteem that is due to Him. And the whole earth will be but His handful on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens will be rolled up in His right hand. Glory to Him and exalted is He above that which they associate with Him.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=39&verse=67

Thanks

 

Can you provide an example of human thinking that goes beyond this universe?

 

 

I would like to quote here in this connection from Wikipedia, my virtual university:

“The multiverse (or meta-universe) is the hypothetical set of infinite or finite possible universes (including the historical universe we consistently experience) that together comprise everything that exists and can exist: the entirety of space, time, matter, and energy as well as the physical laws and constants that describe them. The term was coined in 1895 by the American philosopher and psychologist William James.[1] The various universes within the multiverse are sometimes called parallel universes.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

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Religions generally present images of their gods, so there are lots of pictures to choose from. Some are based animals, and lots are imaginative mixtures of human, animal and verging on nightmare images. Google ‘hindu goddesses’ for a particularly fine selection.

The Jewish religion is quite clear about having a dislike of deity images, so the spin-off religions of Christianity and Islam haven’t had the opportunity to be quite so creative. Furthermore, the belief that man was created in the image of god, coupled with the idea of the human shaped man god Jesus appearing on earth, perhaps gives most Christians a reason to imagine an actual man with a hefty dose of supernatural powers, lurking invisibly somewhere behind the celestial curtain.

But is that what believers really think?  And for those who don’t follow any organised religion, but still have an urge to believe that a god exists, is…

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Love of science does not preclude love of religion

April 6, 2013

Love of science : Science of today is not the same that existed

I agree that science of today is not the same that existed in the remote past or before the emergence of modern science during the early modern period, when developments in mathematics, physics, astronomy, biology, medicine, and chemistry transformed views of society and nature. It could be from the year 1543 or later from the year 1700.

All the sciences are equipped for the quest of nature though not as to who created nature. If there were no nature, there will be no science. All the branches of science study nature and its findings are accurate only to the extent it does not contradict with nature; if there is an anomaly, it contradicts with nature; the relative science or its related experiments, findings and study is revised.

Neither up to the present time we have discovered the nature that exists in the universe fully nor, I think, we ever will be in a position to accomplish it. We have the idea of expanding universe; so with its expanding, the nature also expands.

It is true to say “Science of today is not the same that existed” in the past times. Can we roughly estimate pre modern era; ratio of human knowledge to the total concept of universe at that time? Can we also work out the ratio of present time human knowledge or concept of universe or nature in the year 2013? A comparison of both may tell us that the ratio is either the same or shows hardly any significant change.

As our modest exploration resources expand so does nature or maybe it expands manifold.

I think being in the present era we should not discount or put down the great men who existed in the ancient times. Our common ancestors while living in the caves or hunting down in the forests were as wise or more or less as we are now today. After all, the modern scientific era was raised on their shoulders; it did not usher in out of the blue.

The exploration of nature is not over yet; so the effort of science to discover it goes on and on.

While we must respect science or technological advances associated with it as it makes our life convenient in a way; but there is still much about human life that does not come within the purview of science. Science does not claim to be the be all and end all of human life. Within its defined limits science has done wonders .Its merits and achievement cannot be denied; but out of its limits, it may shed off its usefulness to much extent. There is more to life but science is an essential partner of life; this cannot be ignored. Those who demean it; they belittle themselves.

I love science and religion; both are essential for human life.

Note: This is with reference to my following post:

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2013/04/06/love-of-science/

Has the Creator God created Universe for His enjoyment?

December 3, 2011

The Creator God has not created human beings for His enjoyment or His pastime. He does not get bored; boredom is a blemish for Him and is a human phenomenon only.

[21:18] If We had wished to find a pastime, We would surely have found it in what is with Us if at all We were to do such a thing.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=21&verse=17

He has created us human being so that we may be thankful to Him for all that He has created and bestowed to us in the past and all that He can create and will create for us if we abide by his guidance, follow His path and fulfill purpose of our life set by Him.

This in other words is heaven for us.

Only an Intelligent Being can endow intelligence; not evolution

November 13, 2011

Only an Intelligent Being can endow intelligence; not evolution
This is just to give one a taste of a dialogue on the above subject for anybody who feels interest in it; courtesy:

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/86393#top

The OP

1. Only an Intelligent Being could endow intelligence to others; universe or nature or evolution are deaf and dumb; they cannot bestow intelligence on others of their own; it is the Creator God- the Most-Intelligent the Most-Wise who has bestowed intelligence to others as per His design of evolving life.

2. wilderness wrote:
Nice declaration of fact. Now can you back it up or is this just what you would like to be true as it reinforces your belief system?

3. paarsurrey wrote:
What anomaly one sees in the above statement of fact? If one doesn’t see any anomaly; and it is reasonable; why should one doubt it?

4. wanzulfikri wrote:
I can see that you are saying that an Intelligent Being endows intelligence. Maybe, the theory of evolution is one of god’s way to show how human receive Intelligence. For me, I believe that humans are humans and not apes based on what Darwin says. Intelligence is given by the Creator and maybe the theory of evolution can be perceived as a way that god can give us intelligence

5. Cagsil wrote:
Actually, intelligence is never endowed. It’s developed. So it’s incorrect.

6. Brenda Durham wrote:
I disagree. A child at birth is intelligent (actually, I think they’re intelligent before birth, but that’s probably too deep an issue to go into right now?), and their level of understanding can be “developed”, but I maintain that they’re intelligent even before they experience things and places and language, etc. What I’m saying is, (and what I think paar is saying is) that intelligence is a basic trait of humans; and that trait is given to mankind by God.

7. Brenda Durham wrote:
I disagree. A child at birth is intelligent (actually, I think they’re intelligent before birth, but that’s probably too deep an issue to go into right now?), and their level of understanding can be “developed”, but I maintain that they’re intelligent even before they experience things and places and language, etc. What I’m saying is, (and what I think paar is saying is) that intelligence is a basic trait of humans; and that trait is given to mankind by God.
I think of intelligence being “developed” as through evolution. Humans have evolved to a point that they have the intelligence trait. We are capable of intelligence. So yes a baby is going to have intelligence. I’m not trying to say any other way of thinking is wrong. People are never going to agree.

8. wilderness wrote:
Yes and no. If a chimp and human are raised together from birth, in the same environment, the chimp learns far faster than the human. It learns to control it’s body and muscles faster, it learns about it’s environment faster.

Until the child begins to learn language. At that point it’s all over, and the child quickly outstrips the chimp in everything but body control; some of that is simple physical development and can’t be rushed.

Is the chimp then more intelligent than the human until the language is learned? If the chimp had the anatomical ability to communicate via complex speech would it remain more intelligent and be writing hubs at the age of 3?

Intelligence isn’t limited to humanity, and it is quite possible that a few animals (cetaceans maybe?) are as intelligent as humans but the cultural and physical differences as well as environment are simply so great that we cannot understand or recognize their intelligence yet. We’re not smart enough to learn their language.

9. wilderness wrote:
There is no God; there is no creator; there is no most wise.
There is an anomaly there; nothing exists on its own without a Creator except the Creator God who by definition exist on His own; so I have reason to disagree with you.

10. paarsurrey wrote:
There is an anomaly there; nothing exists on its own without a Creator except the Creator God who by definition exist on His own; so I have reason to disagree with you.
11. paarsurrey wrote:

The Creator God has many attributes; some of these are mentioned in the following verses of Quran:

[112:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[112:2] Say, ‘He is Allah, the One;
[112:3] ‘Allah, the Independent and Besought of all.
[112:4] ‘He begets not, nor is He begotten;
[112:5] ‘And there is none like unto Him.’

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … php?ch=112

I know you don’t believe in Quran; but the attributes mentioned in it are a must for the Creator God being reasonable; I am just pointing out that. Just focus on the reason part.

12. autumn18 wrote:
I don’t see the universe, nature, and evolution as deaf and dumb.

13. Paarsurrey wrote:
Did universe talk to anybody? Quote the Word from Universe, please

14. psycheskinner wrote:
So who endowed intelligence on the intelligence higher being? Or did he just… evolve?

15. Paarsurrey wrote:
By definition the Creator God is being on His own; so the question is not valid. Sorry for that.

16. Emile R wrote:
So, you admit intelligence is evolved. Why the OP then?

17. Paarsurrey wrote:
I mention and mean that the Creator God set evolution to go; this way he endowed intelligence to human beings and others; of itself evolution is deaf and dumb; it cannot produce intelligence.

Hubpages is a good discussion site; one could comment there or here in this blog; comments are most welcome.

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/86393#top

Quran is authored by the Creator- God Allah YHWH and not authored by Muhammad

May 26, 2010

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbreligion/F2213235?thread=7486003&post=96535004#p96535004

Paarsurrey wrote:

Quran is authored by the Creator- God Allah YHWH and not authored by Muhammad; it is pristine Word of Revelation.

Sir Bernard Quatermass Wrote:

The whole of the Quran rests on the honesty of one man. A man who had had all the books of other religions (judaism, christianity, etc) read to him so knew them.

A suspicious person would say he used his knowledge to create a new religion, pretty much as christianity was created from judaism.

Several decades ago, L Ron Hubbard realised that a sure way to money and power was to create a new religion and he did so (scientology), and gained both. Though he died an ignominious death as a hermit, he still has many followers around the world who wait for his return.

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend Sir Bernard Quatermass

Like the Universe has a system in it, likewise Quran has a system in it. One cannot create the Universe; similarly one cannot create the system Quran has for the ethical, moral and spiritual problems of man; it has claims as well as the reasons in it; impossible for a human to do it. Muhammad could not have authored Quran; it is authored by the Creator- God Allah YHWH.

Thanks

No “Good without God?”: Jesus neither god nor Son of god

October 29, 2009

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/2009/10/good_without_god/comments.html

Hi friends

It is no good without the Creator-God Allah YHWH. It is very unnatural not to believe in the Creator- God Allah YHWH. It is just like believing that one was born without one’s parents. One has not seen one’s father mating with one’s mother even then one believes that one has a father. One has not seen one’s mother giving one birth yet one is not in doubt of one’ mother; so one very naturally believes in one’s mother and father and is never in doubt.

One knows that one’s mother and father had taken pains in upbringing one; they did it with love in a very natural way. It is no good without the father and mother; and in the same way it is no good without the Creator-God Allah YHWH.

Through the parents the Creator-God Allah YHWH gives us a taste of His Grace, Mercy.

We got born of our parents; when we were nothing; if left unattended, unfed we would have not survived and died in our infancy, not even knowing that we were ever born. From infancy, we reached childhood, adulthood, old age; so it all evolved very naturally. It is against evolution and progression not believing in the Creator- God Allah YHWH.

All we see in the Universe is the Work of the Creator- God Allah YHWH. All our knowledge and sciences are based on knowing the laws of nature that the Creator has set in motion; without His Work, there would be no knowledge and no sciences.

It is his benevolence that He did not leave us alone and through the perfect men called Messengers Prophets he sent his Revelations so that we may know about his attributes and other things most essential for our ethical, moral and spiritual advancement; from the unseen realm. This is called the Word of the Creator- God Allah YHWH.

I think without the Work of God or without the Word of god; we will be worse off in our lives.

Is there a doubt in Allah the Creator of the heavens and earth? (Quran)
Jesus was however not a god or a Son of god.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

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