Posts Tagged ‘Union with Brahma’

Buddha believed in one true God; from Buddhist scriptures

July 1, 2013

I wrote posts on <http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/> under the thread < The true religion invites comparison >. Sometime there are useful off the topic discussions also; here is one such instance. I give below some such posts on the topic of this post for the viewers of this blog.

(To see the context of a post, please, click the post #; that will take you to the full single view of the post in the forum, and then click the thread topic on the right upper corner, that will take you to the discussion that ensued in the forum.)

Paarsurrey wrote:

#77

Originally Posted by BruceDLimber: Baha’i

IMHO not much of a discussion is needed given these passages in the Buddhist scriptures: 

There is, O monks, an Unborn, Unoriginated, Uncreated, Unformed. Were there not, O monks, this Unborn, Unoriginated, Uncreated, Unformed, there would be no escape from the world of the born, originated, created, formed. Since, O monks, there is an Unborn, Unoriginated, Uncreated, Unformed, therefore is there an escape from the born, originated, created, formed. What is dependant, that also moves; what is independent does not move.
(Udana 8:3)

and

“The one who does not desire anything,
“But directly knows even the uncreated;
“Not satisfied, such a one breaks off any
“Possibility for rebirth by swallowing
“What he has made. Such one is the Supreme!”

–Dhammapada 9

Buddhist scriptures also speak of “gods and men.”

Peace, 🙂

Bruce

Paarsurrey wrote : Buddha believed in one true God.

Thanks BruceDLimber
Regards

 

#81

Without comparisons one cannot search and reach to truth, hence, the true religion invites comparison; it is a strong merit of a believer.

#83

From Gospel of Buddha:

Quote:”When the Buddha had thus spoken, one of the Brahmans said:
“We are told, Gotama, that the Sakyamuni knows the path to a union with Brahma.” 27
And the Blessed One said: “What do you think, O Brahmans, of a man born and brought up in Manasakata? Would he be in doubt about the most direct way from this spot to Manasakata?” 28
“Certainly not, Gotama.” 29
“Thus,” replied the Buddha, “the Tathagata knows the straightpath that leads to a union with Brahma. He knows it as one who has entered the world of Brahma and has been born in it. There can be no doubt in the Tathagata.” 30
And the two young Brahmans said: “If thou knowest the way show it to us.” 31
And the Buddha said: 32
“The Tathagata sees the universe face to face and understands its nature. He proclaims the truth both in its letter and in its spirit, and his doctrine is glorious in its origin, glorious in its progress, glorious in its consummation. The Tathagata reveals the higher life in its purity and perfection. He can show you the way to that which is contrary to the five great hindrances. 33″ Unquote

Page 142: Chapter XLIX. THE TWO BRAHMANS

http://www.arthursbookshelf.com/Budd…ul%20Carus.pdf

Paarsurrey says:

The one true God is known by His attributes; naturally therefore in all regions of the world and in all languages He has different names but the same attributes.

Quran solves this issue:

[7:181] And to Allah alone belong all perfect attributes. So call on Him by these. And leave alone those who deviate from the right way with respect to His attributes. They shall be repaid for what they do.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine – Al Islam Online

[17:111] Say, ‘Call upon Allah or call upon Rahman; by whichever name you call Him, His are the most beautiful names.’ And utter not thy prayer aloud, nor utter it too low, but seek a way between.
[17:112] And say, ‘All praise belongs to Allah Who has taken unto Himself no son, and Who has no partner in His Kingdom, nor has He anyone to help Him on account of weakness.’ And extol His glory with all glorification.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine – Al Islam Online

[20:9] Allah — there is no God but He. His are the most beautiful names.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine – Al Islam Online

[59:25] He is Allah, the Creator, the Maker, the Fashioner. His are the most beautiful names. All that is in the heavens and the earth glorifies Him, and He is the Mighty, the Wise.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine – Al Islam Online

So, God Allah YHWH was in Buddha’s speech named as Brahma.

Buddha believed Union with Brahma; that the right path was to acquire attributes of Him and that was the meaning of the union, in my opinion.

Of course others could differ with me; it is their right as is mine.

#92

lewisnotmiller  Atheist

Originally Posted by paarsurrey

1.Urmonotheismus (German for “primeval monotheism”) or primitive monotheism is the hypothesis of a monotheistic Urreligion, from which non-monotheistic religions degenerated. This is diametrically opposed to the evolutionary view of religion, which holds that religion progressed from simple forms to complex: first preanimism, then animism, totemism, polytheism and finally monotheism (see Anthropology of religion).[1]

2.Alleged traces of primitive monotheism were located in the deities Assyrian Ashur and Marduk, and Hebrew YHWH. Monotheism in Schmidt’s view is the “natural” form of theism, which was later overlaid and “degraded” by polytheism.[2]

Urmonotheismus – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think that could also help.

Thanks, I’ll do some reading on that.

#94

Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

But you will always call him Allah  . Seems rather biased but I enjoy how Persians call him Khuda as well.

 

Paarsurrey wrote :There is no harm in calling the one true God with the name of Khuda or Ahura Mazda or Yahweh or any other good name; Quran mention that all good names of the one true God belong to Him.

#96

Originally Posted by paarsurrey

There is no harm in calling the one true God with the name of Khuda or Ahura Mazda or Yahweh or any other good name; Quran mention that all good names of the one true God belong to Him.

Sterling Archer wrote: very true indeed

Buddha believed in one true God: Union with Brahma

March 31, 2013
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Gospel of Buddha

When the Buddha had thus spoken, one of the Brahmans said:
“We are told, Gotama, that the Sakyamuni knows the path to a union with Brahma.” 27
And the Blessed One said: “What do you think, O Brahmans, of a man born and brought up in Manasakata? Would he be in doubt about the most direct way from this spot to Manasakata?” 28
“Certainly not, Gotama.” 29
“Thus,” replied the Buddha, “the Tathagata knows the straightpath that leads to a union with Brahma. He knows it as one who has entered the world of Brahma and has been born in it. There can be no doubt in the Tathagata.” 30
And the two young Brahmans said: “If thou knowest the way show it to us.” 31
And the Buddha said: 32
“The Tathagata sees the universe face to face and understands its nature. He proclaims the truth both in its letter and in its spirit, and his doctrine is glorious in its origin, glorious in its progress, glorious in its consummation. The Tathagata reveals the higher life in its purity and perfection. He can show you the way to that which is contrary to the five great hindrances. 33

Page 142: Chapter XLIX. THE TWO BRAHMANS

http://www.arthursbookshelf.com/Buddhism/The%20Gospel%20of%20Buddha%20-%20Paul%20Carus.pdf

Paarsurrey says:

The one true God is known by His attributes; naturally therefore in all regions of the world and in all languages He has different names but the same attributes.

Quran solves this issue:

[7:181] And to Allah alone belong all perfect attributes. So call on Him by these. And leave alone those who deviate from the right way with respect to His attributes. They shall be repaid for what they do.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=7&verse=180

[17:111] Say, ‘Call upon Allah or call upon Rahman; by whichever name you call Him, His are the most beautiful names.’ And utter not thy prayer aloud, nor utter it too low, but seek a way between.
[17:112] And say, ‘All praise belongs to Allah Who has taken unto Himself no son, and Who has no partner in His Kingdom, nor has He anyone to help Him on account of weakness.’ And extol His glory with all glorification.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=17&verse=110

[20:9] Allah — there is no God but He. His are the most beautiful names.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=20&verse=0

[59:25] He is Allah, the Creator, the Maker, the Fashioner. His are the most beautiful names. All that is in the heavens and the earth glorifies Him, and He is the Mighty, the Wise.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=59&verse=24

So, God Allah YHWH was in Buddha’s language named as Brahma.

Buddha believed Union with Brahma; that the right path was to acquire attributes of Him and that was the meaning of the union.