Posts Tagged ‘truthful Religion’

Truthful revealed religion is peaceful and never harmful

May 2, 2019

Religious Forums

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/what-makes-religion-beneficial-or-harmful-to-communities.220172/page-6#post-6088716

#120 paarsurrey

What makes religion beneficial or harmful to communities?

The truthful revealed religion, if understood correctly, is peaceful and never harmful to any community. Right, please?

Regards

“But…. some of us got the impression that Baha’is expected to rule the world… that almost all people would be Baha’is. If that is not the case, then will they even have a majority of the people of the world following the Baha’i Faith?”
#121 paarsurrey

Is it just one’s impression without sort of evidence, please? or there is something to it?
Please elaborate.

Regards

 

 

Kama Sutra – Tripitaka

May 31, 2014

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3788237-post2.html

paarsurrey wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leftimies

Kama Sutra – Tripitaka.

“If one, longing for sensual pleasure, achieves it, yes, he’s enraptured at heart.
The mortal gets what he wants.

But if for that person — longing, desiring — the pleasures diminish,
he’s shattered, as if shot with an arrow. Whoever avoids sensual desires
— as he would, with his foot, the head of a snake — goes beyond, mindful,
this attachment in the world.

A man who is greedy for fields, land, gold, cattle, horses,
servants, employees, women, relatives, and many sensual pleasures,
is overpowered with weakness and trampled by trouble, for pain invades him as water,
a cracked boat. So one, always mindful, should avoid sensual desires.
Letting them go, he’d cross over the flood like one who,
having bailed out the boat, has reached the far shore.”

– Direct extract.

Quite different from the kama sutra introduced to the West, isn’t it? Give me your thoughts on this subject – whether it be comparison to the other kama sutra, your opinion on this one, or whatever. Do you agree with the claim, or do you vehemently disagree?

Please provide the wording of kama sutra that has been introduced to the West; for comparison.

Why the wording has been changed and who did it?

Regards

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3788343-post5.html

paarsurrey

The truthful religion informs us that all natural human instincts have to be harnessed for ethical, moral and spiritual progress and are to be tuned to the purpose of life fixed by the One-True-God.

Buddha narrated the Kama Sutra in the same connection.

Regards

Science deals with specific physical or material matters; does not deal with abstract attributes like “beauty”

April 25, 2014

The viewers should access the following link to know the context of the discussion; and only then one should form one’s own sincere and independent opinion.

http://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/need-one-say-more/comment-page-1/#comment-14362

PAARSURREY says:
April 24, 2014 at 11:19 am

@ John Zande
A baby girl says
“According to religion I am:
-Broken
-Flawed
-Sinful
-Dumb
-Weak
-Nothing”
The truthful Religion does not say this.

If you think it is so; please quote from Quran.
Regards

http://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/need-one-say-more/comment-page-1/#comment-14364

PAARSURREY says:
April 24, 2014 at 11:31 am

@ John Zande
A baby girl says
“According to science I am:
-Full of wonder
-Smart
-a great learner
-Beautiful
-Potential for greatness!”

Please quote from a text book of science or a peer reviewed article in a journal of science. I think science deals with specific physical or material matters; does not deal with abstract attributes like “beauty or smartness” that are not quantifiable.
Regards

Truthful Religion always existed and exists even now

January 13, 2014

jasonjshaw Says:
January 13, 2014 at 8:16 pm

All religions have elements of truth. All religions are misinterpreted to cause harm to others as well. I think that is a pretty clear indication that a true religion has not been developed yet.

paarsurrey Says:
January 13, 2014 at 8:53 pm

I don’t agree with you.

The Truthful Religion or the Religion in Truth has always existed and it very much exists even now; only the people don’t understand or they opt to politicize it and make it to look harmful to humanity for their own vested interests; like the Terrorists are doing “in the name of religion” or “in the name of God”; while they neither lawfully represent Religion nor the One-True-God (Allah Yahweh Aura-Mazda, Parmeshawara, Ishawara).

Religion is path that leads to the One-True-God; since God has always existed; so as long as the humans exist, the path leading to Him will also exist.

Religions of Krishna or Buddha are also included in the concept of the Truthful Religion

January 9, 2014

Glimpses of discussion with Atheists; please, click the following link for original discussion:

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/01/01/did-jews-borrow-greek-myths-3-examples/#comment-122209
Topic “Did Jews Borrow Greek Myths: 3 examples”

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2014/01/07/did-jews-borrow-greek-myths-3-examples/

paarsurrey

01/09/2014 at 3:44 pm
Quoting the words of Takis Konstantopoulos
01/09/2014 at 12:06 pm
“Do you mean to say that the gods of all monotheistic religions (Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam–maybe there are more, I don’t know) are identical?”

Whichever the revealed religion is and in whatever part of the world it is located; I mean all of them.
Religions of Krishna or Buddha are also included in the concept of the Truthful Religion.

Takis Konstantopoulos
01/09/2014 at 3:57 pm
You are welcome. Thanks for replying. Unfortunately, I don’t understand what you are saying. Is it true then that Vishnu, Shiva, Brahma, Apollo and Yahweh are identical?

Sabio Lantz
01/09/2014 at 4:05 pm
@ Takis (& paarsurrey),
paarsurrey is a theist (albeit a broadly inclusivist sort) who is talking to a bunch of atheists (most of my readers) as if we believe in a theistic god and we don’t. I think his form of Islam believes that all other religions but his religion has corrupt scripture (actually, this is orthodox Islam too), but he is willing to say the original teachings of the ‘great religions’ is true but now corrupt. That way they can pretend to be inclusive, but they really aren’t. A very tricky more, in my book. But either way, us atheists don’t find any traction in any of the theist arguments: inclusivists, pseudo-inclusivists, or exclusivists. I would like to see paarsurrey talk to us as if he recognizes our beliefs — whether he disagrees or not.

paarsurrey
01/09/2014 at 4:05 pm
The original revelation on Krishna could be entirely different from what people now believe; one should not be mislead by that.

This is due to the verbal transmission.

Jesus was a Jew and concurred with Moses on belief in One-True-God Yahweh; yet the modern Christians don’t follow Jesus’ teachings and believe in Trinity invented by Paul.

It is not difficult to understand, I think.

paarsurrey
01/09/2014 at 4:09 pm
@ Sabio Lantz 01/09/2014 at 4:05 pm

I think I am already talking. Am I not?

Takis Konstantopoulos
01/09/2014 at 4:12 pm
I think I understand. There is one god, let’s call her (or him?) G. This G revealed “the truth” to “the righteous ones” at “some point of time.” But then his (or her) message was corrupted and people started revering all kinds of deities. Because of the passage of time, the diversion became greater and greater. This is why, at the present time, there are mutually incompatible beliefs.

OK, I get it.

Please let me know if my syllogism is a correct interpretation of your last post.

But then, I have a further question. I arrive at this world endowed with no religion and no beliefs whatsoever. At some point in my life I decide to pick a religion. Which one should I pick?

paarsurrey
01/09/2014 at 4:32 pm
I think you have understood me correctly.
You should search yourself and join the Truthful Religion wherever you find it:

[29:70] And as for those who strive in Our path — We will surely guide them in Our ways. And verily Allah is with those who do good.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=29&verse=69

Takis Konstantopoulos
01/09/2014 at 4:58 pm
To clarify: I don’t mean to say that the particular passage from the Quran is corrupt–that I don’t know–but that, for sure (you agreed on that), there are corruptions in the Quran or whichever other texts Muslims use. Right?

paarsurrey
01/09/2014 at 6:44 pm
@Takis Konstantopoulos 01/09/2014 at 4:58 pm
Quoting your words:
(you agreed on that) Unquote

Please quote my words.

We don’t hate Atheists or Agnostics

May 8, 2013

I give here a post written by me for my favourite discussion forum on the thread

#99 Is Islam a universal religion.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/religious-debates/147598-islam-universal-religion-10.html#post3320290

One may like to comment there in the forum or here in this blog, my pleasure:

“We don’t hate Atheists or Agnostics. They deny Word of Revelation al-right but they uphold reason and rationality; two of the three sources of human knowledge, so dear to a truthful believer. We don’t judge them; to do absolute judgement is an attribute of the Lord of the Day of Judgement  and that would be in the afterlife. They are with us fighting against mythical concepts and superstitions.

Just for non-believing there is no retribution in this world; unless one becomes a hardened enemy additionally with non-believing.

Atheists or Agnostics are an important segment of humans though they claim to have no religion as I understand; yet we have all love and sympathy with them; they could join the truthful religion as and when they are convinced heart and soul; the door is open to them as it is to anybody else.

This way the universality of the truthful religion remains intact, in my opinion.

That is what I believe sincerely; others could differ with me; no compulsion.”

Another post in the same thread from Paarsurrey:

#109

” The topic is not ‘Is Islam the only universal religion’; it is ‘Is Islam a universal religion’, I think for the purpose of this discussion we don’t have to make it exclusive for other religions.

To make it exclusive for a religion; that religion must provide the claim and reason both from their original Word revealed in the original language; if not in detail at least in germane.”

Truthful religion is natural; simple and beautiful

May 19, 2012

Truthful religion which the founders of religion bring from the Creator God is very natural; simple and beautiful as we find in the nature; one knows from a glance whether a things is artificial or natural

Atheism, agnosticism, skepticism, communism are artificial or man-made, everybody knows it.

One such truthful religion was brought by Buddha from the Creator God. It was not man-made.

Buddha proved- the truthful Religion is not man-made

May 15, 2012

I have started a new thread on <http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/>, please view it there. You may comment on that forum are here in this blog, just click the following link:

 

Buddha proved- the truthful Religion is not man-made