Posts Tagged ‘Triangulations’

Atheists and their hatred of “religion”

April 14, 2014

I appreciate the following excerpt from the post “When Religion is not Religion” at the blog “triangulations” which could be viewed at the following link:

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/04/14/when-religion-is-not-religion/

Quote: “Religion” is the word in which these atheists package their hate. When challenged with their overgeneralization about religions by pointing out religions practiced by real people that don’t contain any of the repulsive things they associate with the word “religion”, these atheists often just deny that such practices are really “religions”. You see, they are committed to hating the word “religion”.Unquote
http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/04/14/when-religion-is-not-religion/

I concur with Sabio Lantz on this observation.

paarsurrey

Islam/Quran/Muhammad: “no article of faith”; or “pillar of Islam” has any myth in it

March 7, 2014

Please view paarsurrey comments on blog “triangulation” for your valuable opinion:

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/defining-religion-ninian-smart/

“Defining Religion: Ninian Smart”

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/defining-religion-ninian-smart/#comment-125352

paarsurrey
03/06/2014 at 5:59 pm

@Sabio Lantz : 03/06/2014 at 3:58 pm

I think you won’t mind if I point out that the illustration you made titled “Ninian Smart’s model” has the dropper/marker second from left as “myths”; making total six components of religion; please see in the beginning of your post. Since you supported him in your post so you have to tell as to what you understand from a myth.

The Truthful Religion has six Article of Faith, no doubt it:

• Unity of God
• His Angels
• His Books
• His Prophets
• The Last Day
• Divine Decree

And five Pillars of Islam:

• Kalima
• Prayer
• Fasting
• Zakaat
• Hajj

http://www.alislam.org/

“myths” are definitely not one of them.

I like your blog but I don’t have necessarily/always to agree with whatever you write.

Please be tolerant for a differing voice

Thanks and regards

Genders not applicable to the personage of One-True-God

March 6, 2014

Paarsurrey on “Triangulations” blog

“Defining Religion: Ninian Smart”
http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/defining-religion-ninian-smart/

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/defining-religion-ninian-smart/#comment-125306

1. paarsurrey
03/06/2014 at 10:48 am

You are in any angry mood; and you know in an angry mood no meaningful discussion is possible. I don’t discuss to win; but religion is part of my “self”; for that I have suffered a lot; but I don’t mind that.
When you are out of this mood; and you want to have a friendly discussion; we may do that and others are also welcome to participate. Then you may choose any of the above items; but there will be no debate; there will be only discussion open to everybody.

I like your blog.

I only made my comments on the thoughts expressed in the post of your blog, please.

2. paarsurrey
03/06/2014 at 11:01 am

@Takis Konstantopoulos : 03/06/2014 at 8:58 am

“Muslims (and Christians and Zoroastrians and Jews) refer to their god as if that god were male.” Unquote

I can only speak for Islam/Quran/Muhammad.

Quran mentions clearly that genders are not applicable on His personage:

[112:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[112:2] Say, ‘He is Allah, the One;
[112:3] ‘Allah, the Independent and Besought of all.
[112:4] ‘He begets not, nor is He begotten;
[112:5] ‘And there is none like unto Him.’

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=112

“The Sanctification Cloak”: “God said it”: “the reason content”- not the authority to stifle questioning

February 22, 2014

I posted following comments: blog “triangulations” topic “The Sanctification Cloak”: link:

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/the-sanctification-ploy/

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/the-sanctification-ploy/#comment-124513

paarsurrey
02/22/2014 at 4:41 pm
@ Sabio Lantz
““God said it.”
“When you declare that a god told you something, you are attempting to shut down the discussion. We are not suppose to question the gods. By declaring that a god declared some ‘truth’, you are using the sanctification cloak to stop all questioning.” Unquote

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 has introduced a different notion of “God said it”; he ( and most of his followers) presents the reason content in the quote not the quote as an authority. If one understands the reason content in the quote, that is sufficient , otherwise one could ignore it.

We don’t stop anybody from questioning; one could still question.

We can still quote from the “God said it”, for the reason content in the quote.

So on and so forth.

Please

“Ghosts: An Atheist Touchstone”

February 13, 2014

My comments on triangulations blog:
http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/13/ghosts-an-atheist-touchstone/
http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/13/ghosts-an-atheist-touchstone/#comment-124153

paarsurrey
02/13/2014 at 2:56 pm
@ trueandreasonable :02/13/2014 at 12:45 pm

“An atheist can believe in ghosts spirits esp and other supernatural things and still be an atheist.”
I don’t get you exactly. How an Atheist can believe in ghosts spirits esp while he is not ready to accept the existence of One-True-God?

Similarly: How can a naturalist accept ghosts etc as a natural phenomenon while he is not ready to accept the One-True-God who exists and the nature has come into existence at His command?
This would be a dire contradiction, I think.
Please elaborate your viewpoint.

Any Atheist or Naturalist could also respond, please.

Atheists! Please don’t label others as “stupid” or “delusional”

February 13, 2014

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/13/ghosts-an-atheist-touchstone/
http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/13/ghosts-an-atheist-touchstone/#comment-124144

paarsurrey
02/13/2014 at 11:26 am
@Howie : 02/13/2014 at 10:30 am

I think instead of labeling others as “stupid” or “deluded” that you rightly said just makes the person mad and less likely to hear one’s point of view; I think the right approach is that one should give one’s good reasons and arguments and tell the other person that his point of view is unreasonable.

Thanks

I also wrote the following comments:

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/13/ghosts-an-atheist-touchstone/#comment-124142

paarsurrey
02/13/2014 at 10:59 am

There is no mention of Ghosts in the Revealed Book of the truthful religion from the One-True-God. Those who believe in ghosts believe out of superstition; and have weak psyche.

Language and Religion

February 4, 2014

I have written a comment on the “Triangulations” blog at the topic
“Language & Religion as Decorations”:

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/language-religion-as-decorations/

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/language-religion-as-decorations/#comment-123773

My comments are given below;

paarsurrey
02/04/2014 at 10:46 am

@ Sabio Lantz

I don’t get you exactly. Please elaborate.

Arabic is not my mother tongue; yet when Quran is recited in Arabic by a good Qari (a correct reciter); it spell bounds one.

Yet this is one quality of Quran; its real miracle is in its meanings, its message and its appeal to reason where reason could lead one to, reasonably.

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/language-religion-as-decorations/#comment-123773

Western Buddhist rhetoric “the present moment”

February 3, 2014

I have commented on the “triangulations” blog on the topic
“The Present Moment: a Buddhist fetish”
http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/02/the-present-moment-a-buddhist-fetish/
http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/02/the-present-moment-a-buddhist-fetish/#comment-123738

paarsurrey
02/03/2014 at 7:44 am

@ john zande 02/02/2014 at 9:25 am

I agree with you. We cannot catch present; by the time we realize it; it has already passed and become past. In absolute sense; past, present and future are the same; part of the unseen.

It is an attribute of the One-True-God that he knows the seen or present and the unseen:
[23:93] Knower of the unseen and of the seen! Exalted therefore is He above all that which they associate with Him!

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=23&verse=92

I think there is nothing from Buddha to live in the present and to ignore past and future.

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/02/the-present-moment-a-buddhist-fetish/#comment-123738

“Baptism: Necessary?”

January 27, 2014

Sabio Lantz an atheist blogger introduced “John Barron” in his blog with these words.
“John Barron is conservative Christian with a popular blog. He is intelligent and a fine writer.”
I therefore visited blog of John Barron “Sifting Reality” @http://siftingreality.com/. I wrote following comment on the post titled “Baptism: Necessary?” byTerranceH.

paarsurrey says:

January 27, 2014 at 10:10 AM

“people of all religions should feel free to participate. What does your religion believe?”
Thanks for inviting followers of other religions for participation in the discussion; it means you are an open mind.

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim.

In Islam/Quran there is no baptism; please define as to what is “baptism”.?
Islam/Quran/Muhammad do not hold that man is sinful by birth; there is no “original sin”; every human is born innocent.

Thanks and regards

http://siftingreality.com/2014/01/25/baptism-necessary/#comment-80605

“Worldly Prosperity: The Crux of Christianity & Buddhism”: Triangulations

January 16, 2014

I wrote following post on “Triangulations” topic “Worldly Prosperity: The Crux of Christianity & Buddhism”; and I publish it in my blog for the benefit of viewers of my blog and for public.

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/worldly-prosperity-the-crux-of-christianity-buddhism/#comment-122739

paarsurrey
01/15/2014 at 6:54 pm

“efforts to acquire worldly prosperity are a common theme among the majority of Christians and Buddhists.” Unquote

I think I have to disagree with you here. Your above summary might be true about the present day Buddhists/Buddhism and or Christians/Christianity but surely not true about Buddha- who twice rejected the throne his father keenly offered him; and about Jesus whose Core Teachings are:
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:36-40
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40

I don’t think that Buddha or Jesus would agree to your surmise. Would they?
I think this needs revisiting of your post.
Thanks