Posts Tagged ‘teachings of Jesus’

Jesus brought no new salvation; not at all.

July 7, 2014

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3831147-post41.html
Please access the above link to know the context of the post and to join the discussion.

Originally Posted by The Sum of Awe

“Out of curiosity, why did Jesus save humanity at the time he did and not earlier? Salvation would then have been automatic for those who died before his coming instead of them waiting.

It would have made everything a lot less complicated. No need for laws and practices that were no longer required after him.

Or even better yet, why wasn’t Salvation simply made automatic in the first place?” Unquote

Paarsurrey wrote:

This is a creed invented by Paul, the scribes and the Church;they did it by corrupting teachings of Jesus. Jesus was a Jew and remained as such even when he went to India.

This corruption/alteration has been done by Paul, the scribes and the Church while Jesus and Mary had already traveled out of Judea going to India.
Jesus’ mission was to refresh the core teachings of Moses and to refresh the covenant of Noah, Abraham and Moses (excluding the corruption/changes made by the clergy).

Jesus brought no new salvation; not at all.

Regards

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God sacrificed himself?!

April 18, 2014

The viewers should access the following link to know the context of the discussion; and only then one should form one’s own sincere and independent opinion.

http://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2014/04/18/easter-in-ten-words/comment-page-1/#comment-14239

PAARSURREY says:
April 18, 2014 at 8:21 pm

“God sacrificed himself, to himself, to save humanity from himself.
Because that makes perfect sense”

This baseless creed has been invented by sinful Paul and sinful Church.

This is not teachings of Jesus.

Jesus’ core teachings are as follows:

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Matthew 22:36-40

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40

Regards

Peripheral issues with Bible should be interpreted within the core teachings of Jesus

April 3, 2014

The viewers should access the following link to know the context of the post; and then they should from their own sincere and independent opinion.

http://jerichobrisance.com/2014/04/02/snapthought-wrested-from-my-hands-by-god/comment-page-1/#comment-6344

paarsurrey says:
April 3, 2014 at :

Hello everybody!

Most Issues with the Bible will get diluted; if instead of the peripheral issues one concentrates on the core teachings of Moses and Jesus:

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:36-40

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40

All the peripheral issues should be interpreted within the scope of the above core teachings of Jesus or else rejected forthwith.

This is a way of reconciliation between the Atheists who were previously Christians; the crowbar need not be applied.

Does this help?

http://jerichobrisance.com/journey/comment-page-1/#comment-6347

paarsurrey says:
April 3, 2014 at :

@Jericho Brisance

“it is possible to bring down a structure by removing the right component, the right foundational brick. The brick in this case was removed”.

What was the foundational brick of Christianity in your case? Please

Regards

In preparation to welcome Jesus’ Second Coming

March 15, 2014

I have written a post on the following blog of uncleE; the viewers could add their valuable comments here even if they differ.

“Is there a God?”
“Welcome to atheists (and others)”

http://www.is-there-a-god.info/blog/about/welcome-to-atheists-and-others/
http://www.is-there-a-god.info/blog/about/welcome-to-atheists-and-others/#comment-8835

paarsurrey
MAR 15, 2014 @ 12:33:13

In fact a movement for purification of Bible (NT) is needed.

1. What Jesus actually said and quoted by Bible should be jotted down.
2. Jesus’ core teachings should be distinctively noted as his firm and unambiguous teachings; and it should form as touchstone of his sayings
3. All such sayings which are dubious and not as firm as the core teachings should be interpreted under the firm meanings of the core teachings; else separated as weak narrations or fabricated in his name and not having told by Jesus.
4. For the contradictory verses; those which are against reason or common sense and not in line with the core teachings should be discarded.
5. All such teachings which in essence have no origin in the OT should be discarded as Jesus was a Jew and his advent was for the revival of the teachings of Moses.

This way the Christians could come out from the mess that was started by Paul and associated by the Church.

These points have been inferred from the core teachings of Jesus as already mentioned by me in this thread.

Yet; this is to be done by the Christians themselves while they get prepared to join in and to welcome Jesus’ Second Coming which has in fact already taken place.

Thanks and regards

Why history does not support Christians?

March 8, 2014

Please view Paarsurrey comments on the blog “Is there a God?” for your valuable opinion, even if you differ.

“Is there a God?”
“Welcome to atheists (and others)”
http://www.is-there-a-god.info/blog/about/welcome-to-atheists-and-others/
http://www.is-there-a-god.info/blog/about/welcome-to-atheists-and-others/#comment-8762

paarsurrey
MAR 08, 2014 @ 16:50:43

History is written by humans of the humans; there is only One-True-God so there is no history of any god; if one insists then one’s concept is definitely a human construct; with Christianity believing Jesus as literal or physical god or literal or a literal physical son of god, then it is a brain-child of sinful Paul; a construct of Paul’s.
With the Renaissance in the West the Westerners realized of this reality and since the Christians insisted on the godhead of Jesus so the Westerners started denying that there was no God implying deeply that Jesus was not a god or son of god; and they also denied any historicity of Jesus altogether.

This is how Christianity started giving space to Atheism etc; or losing ground to them.

I have observed on internet discussions that some Christians who were previously Atheists have reverted to Theism but they don’t defend Christianity anymore; instead they attack the unreasonableness of Atheism etc; and they are good at it.
If one denies the core teachings of Jesus (Moses and prophets) as elaborated in my previous comments; then a Christian has to leave NT Bible and in distress they come to history which also does not support them for the reasons above mentioned.

http://www.is-there-a-god.info/blog/about/welcome-to-atheists-and-others/#comment-8781
paarsurrey
MAR 09, 2014 @ 22:10:38

@One Skeptic : MAR 07, 2014 @ 20:11:27

“I have always wondered why Paul never sought out Mary?”

Jesus went out of Judea and out of the jurisdiction of the Roman Empire lest he is caught again by the Jews and hanged again. He took his mother Mary along with him. Paul must have known it; but he won’t tell it lest he is exposed.

It is reported that during Jesus’ journey to India, Mary died in the way towards Kashmir and is said to be buried at Murree, a hillstation near Islamabad Pakistan.

The name Murree is after the name of Mary the mother of Jesus; one may Google for it and read so many entries on it.

Thanks

Jesus did not know it; blind–faith and wrong interpretation of the Christians made Jesus god and or son of god

March 5, 2014

Please view Paarsurrey’s comments on the following blog for your valuable opinion:

“Is there a God?”
“Welcome to atheists (and others)”

http://www.is-there-a-god.info/blog/

paarsurrey
MAR 05, 2014 @ 21:55:04

@One Skeptic:MAR 04, 2014 @ 23:04:14
“Faith and interpretation. Not evidence and not fact.” Unquote

I think it would be more correct to say that it is blind –faith and wrong interpretation of the Christians that they following Paul and the Church and make Jesus a god or son of god against express core teachings of Jesus and Moses and the prophets of the OT. Jesus would love to worship the One-True-God and abhor anything against it.

Quran mentions it:

[4:172] O People of the Book, exceed not the limits in your religion, and say not of Allah anything but the truth. Verily, the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of Allah and a fulfilment of His word which He sent down to Mary, and a mercy from Him. So believe in Allah and His Messengers, and say not ‘They are three.’ Desist, it will be better for you. Verily, Allah is the only One God. Far is it from His Holiness that He should have a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth. And sufficient is Allah as a Guardian.
[4:173] Surely, the Messiah will never disdain to be a servant of Allah, nor will the angels near unto God; and whoso disdains to worship Him and feels proud, He will gather them all to Himself.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=4&verse=172

Thanks

http://www.is-there-a-god.info/blog/about/welcome-to-atheists-and-others/#comment-8743

paarsurrey
MAR 05, 2014 @ 22:05:27

@One Skeptic:MAR 05, 2014 @ 10:43:07

I agree with you.

The Catholic Encyclopedia mentions that the gospels were written by some anonymous scribes; and that these were named after the disciples of Jesus only to add credence for the public.

Matthew might have been unaware as to what has been written in his name by Paul and or the Church.

Thanks

Christians! Please reply to the Atheists for “1214 Cruel and violent passages in Bible”

March 5, 2014

Please view Paarsurrey’s comments on the following blog for your valuable opinion:
“Dwindling In Unbelief”
“Which is more violent, the Bible or the Quran?”
http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.ca/
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogid=26149572&postid=114987521408797161&page=2&token=1393790601994

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/it-is-up-to-the-atheists-they-all-may-join-in-to-prove-violence-in-quran-verse-by-verse-from-the-context/#comment-4262

paarsurrey Says: March 5, 2014 at 8:33 pm | Reply edit
@bobbierileyjr: March 4, 2014 at 12:39 am |

“Such methods stand in stark contrast to the teachings of Jesus to win men and women for the Kingdom of God by proclaiming the Good News of God’s saving grace through the atoning sacrifice of Christ.” Unquote

I think you did not notice perhaps; the blog to which I had given response is owned by the atheists by the name “Dwindling In Unbelief” and the topic is “Which is more violent, the Bible or the Quran?”; link below:

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.ca/

If you think that there is no violence in Bible; then be pleased to respond to them directly and prove to them. The Atheists assert that there are 1214 Cruel or Violent Passages in the Bible.

Please feel free to prove to them directly that there are no cruel or violent passages/verses in the Bible.
Thanks and regards.

Jesus was not “Son of God”

February 24, 2014

I have made following comments: blog “The Calladus Blog”; topic “What I believe”: link:

http://calladus.blogspot.ca/2010/05/what-i-believe.html
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5736821&postID=1351504333661851099&page=1&token=1393273621502

Paarsurrey:

@ Calladus : 23/2/14 5:31 PM (posted but still awaiting moderation by Calladus)

I take your first quote of Bible:

Matt 11:27

[26] Yea, Father; for so hath it seemed good in thy sight. [27] All things are delivered to me by my Father. And no one knoweth the Son, but the Father: neither doth any one know the Father, but the Son, and he to whom it shall please the Son to reveal him. [28] Come to me, all you that labour, and are burdened, and I will refresh you. [29] Take up my yoke upon you, and learn of me, because I am meek, and humble of heart: and you shall find rest to your souls. [30] For my yoke is sweet and my burden light.

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/47011.htm

Jesus was talking in parables and metaphors; as could be ascertained from the words “all you that labor”, “burdened”, “refresh”, “Take up my yoke”; so the words “Father” and “Son” are not literal but should be taken in symbolic form.

Now, here, you should reflect that you took a wrong view of Christianity; which is only a misnomer only because it teaches the teachings of Paul and Church and has nothing to do with the real teachings of Jesus.

You rejected the total picture of Christianity being irrational; and irrational it is for sure; this is because its many tenets that were invented by Paul and collaborated by the Church were irrational.

The interpretation of your research is wrong; the total could not be wrong if many of its components were not wrong.

Your study of Christianity is intact; but you could not ascertain right in it from the wrong in it, only because you could not think of a true principle that could have lead you to the correct conclusion.