How old was Jesus Christ when he died?

Jesus was though put on Cross, yet he was delivered from the cross in near-dead position.
There are some Muslim traditions which say Jesus died a natural and peaceful death in Srinagar, Kashmir, India, at the age of 120/125 years.

Jesus got a new life after the tribulations faced by him on the Cross. By the grace of God Allah YHWH he survived a cursed death on Cross. Without dying Jesus got a new life; this is a metaphoric usage, in my opinion, in all the language of the world. If one is sick with a deadly disease or faces a trauma in real life, when there is no hope for survival, it is commonly said that that person has got a new life. It is never taken as literal or physical life from the actually dead.

Please see the following documentaries which show that Jesus did not die on the Cross; he migrated to India.

BBC Documentary

Jesus in India

	Jesus in India Being an account of Jesus’ escape from death on the cross and of his journey to India by Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, The Promised Messiah and Mahdi Founder of the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam Read the book online in HTML format or PDF format . Read it in Urdu (Ruhani Khazain Volume 15) |Arabic
Table of Contents
Preface | Introduction Chapter One	Chapter Two Chapter Three	Chapter Four Appendix
This is an English version of an Urdu treatise written by the Holy Founder of the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam, Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908). The theme is the escape of Jesus from death on the cross, and his journey to India in search of the lost tribes of Israel. Christian as well as Muslim scriptures, and old medical and historical books including ancient Buddhist records, provide evidence about this journey. Jesus is shown to have reached Afghanistan, and to have met the Jews who had settled there after deliverance from the bondage of Nebuchadnezzar. From Afghanistan Jesus went on to Kashmir, where other Israelite tribes had settled. There he made his home, and there in time he died; his tomb has been found in Srinagar. Electronic version by http://www.alislam.org

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/index.html

Ceremony at Cana; was it feast of Jesus’ marriage with Mary Magdalene?

There are people who believe that Mary Magdalene was a wife of Jesus. And they say that the phenomenon of increasing of wine or turning water into wine was the event of Jesus marriage with Mary Magdalene. I don’t think that Jesus ever drank wine though.

I once read something of which I don’t have a reference now that she also joined Jesus in his travels towards India and the neighboring countries when he had to migrate from Judea after the event of crucifixion, in which he survived. They say that during the travels she died in Quetta and is buried there; maybe Marri tribe is after her name.

Jesus later married to other women also in India. One Pashtun tribe named Issa Khel or sons of Issa or Jesus is said to be from his off-spring. Jesus also got married in Kashmir; there are people in Srinagar who say that they are from his lineage; after all Jesus was a male human being and there was no restriction on him from his Jewish tradition not to marry. Jesus was not a Christian. Jesus was not a god or son of god; he was just a human being; so there should be no surprise in his getting married and having children.

Of course one has to make a search or research to believe or not to believe in a thing.

Bleeding obvious that Jesus death did not occur on the Cross

Paarsurrey says:

I appreciate your post.

It is bleeding obvious that Jesus death did not occur on the Cross.

Jews did try to kill Jesus on the cross and put him on it but Jesus was delivered from it in near-dead position.

What happened to Jesus is mentioned in the Fifth Gospel; according to it Jesus travelled to India and later died there after a long life of about 120 years; one may like to access the following link:

http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/may2006/fifth_gospel.html

The Tomb of Yuz-Asaph

The Tomb of Yuz-Asaph is situated in Anzimar, Khanyar, Srinagar, the summer capital of Kashmir. Srinagar, which means the city of the sun, is an ancient city. It is divided into parts, i.e. the old city and the new city and the tomb is situated in the old city. The people of Kashmir call it Roza-bal, meaning the site of the tomb, and declare that it is a tomb of Yuz-Asaph. This prophet came to Kashmir 1000 years ago, and preached the same parables of Christ.189 Popular local to tradition connects it with the tomb of Jesus Christ.190 Some say it is the tomb of the Prophet of “the people of the Book.”191

http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/may2006/fifth_gospel.html

A good point of research indeed

an autodidact meets a dilettante...

I actually don’t mind a day off from pubs, restaurants, shops and, of course, work, on one day of the year – holidays, days of chillaxin every now and then are well worth having – the ancient Romans loved em I hear – but to commemorate the putative crucifixion of someone who, as the incomprehensible narrative goes – died for our sins, or that we might be set free or have eternal grace, because he was a god or the son thereof but at the same time a human being or a symbol of all the sufferings of humanity and so on and on, well I get a little resentful of having that sort of shite imposed on me. So I’m just wondering, as this country’s Christian religiosity diminishes day by day, how much longer the good Friday saga will last. At least this morning’s ABC news breakfast program was…

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Who Killed Jesus?

In fact, nobody killed Jesus; he died a natural and peaceful death in Kashmir and is buried at Mohallah Khanyar, Srinagar, India.

Jews tried to kill him on the cross; but they did not succeed.

Please view the BBC documentary and decide for yourself.

Jesus himself revealed his plans he was to follow before he was put on the Cross

“I have other sheep that do not belong to this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice.” John 10:16

I think Jesus has not been understood correctly as mentioned in John 10:16.

There were twelve Jewish tribes out of which in Jesus, time only two resided in Judea. The rest ten tribes were in exile and resided in Afghanistan, Kashmir, North West frontier of Pakistan and some other part of India.

Jesus and his follower were being persecuted by Jews in Jerusalem; so Jesus as per the Word Revealed to him from the one true creator God, whom he used to refer as Father; that he would migrate from Judea and set out to meet other ten tribes of the house of Israel to spread the message entrusted to him by the Father.

When he would approach them they won’t oppose him as he was being opposed in Judea. They will listen to him and accept his message in large numbers.

Jesus talked about his future plans in symbolic terms as he was used to talk in parables. Jesus actually fulfilled this divine program; after the event of crucifixion in which he did not die and got revived from the near-death position and secretly travelled outside Judea to these areas.

The rest is already well-known in the history of India that Jesus died a peaceful and natural death and is buried in the Tomb of Jesus in india srinagar mohallah khan yar:

The viewers may verify this point for themselves with a little research, if they don’t mind.

Jesus of Bible showed no signs; Jesus himself admitted before the Jews

Teachings of the Gospels—which the Christians are so proud of—are extremely flawed and ineffective

The Second Coming 1835-1908 says:

Just consider, can a person dare to give such a challenge to the whole world, while being a plagiarist and having cooked the whole thing up on his own, and knowing full well that this knowledge has not come to him from the unseen, rather he has stolen it from such and such books, and to think that no one should be able to accept his challenge and expose him!

The fact is that the Christians are extremely annoyed with the Holy Quran, for it has destroyed the very basis of their  religion. It has refuted the concept of deifying a human being, shattered the doctrine of the cross, and proven beyond all doubt that the teachings of the Gospels—which the Christians are so proud of—are extremely flawed and ineffective. It was, therefore, only natural for their tic passions to have been aroused, and their imputations [against the Holy Quran] are quite understandable.

The example of a Muslim who wishes to convert to Christianity is like a person who, having been born from his mother’s womb and having attained maturity, wishes to return to her womb and become a sperm once more. I wonder what the Christians are so proud of! If they have a ‘God’, he is the one who died long ago and lies buried in Mohalla Khanyar, Srinagar, Kashmir. And if he has any miracles to his name, they are no greater than those of other Prophets, indeed Prophet Elijah showed greater miracles than he ever did. In the eyes of the Jews, Jesus(as) showed no miracles at all, and it was all deception and trickery. (12) And if we look at his prophecies, most of them turned out to be false. Will some padre tell us if the twelve disciples were indeed given twelve thrones in Paradise, as they had been promised! And will someone tell us if, in keeping with his prophecy, Jesus(as) got the Kingdom of the World, for which—by the way—weapons
were also acquired. And did Jesus(as) descend from heaven in those very days, as he had promised?

Let me tell you that there can be no question of his descent, for he never went to heaven in the first place. European scholars also concur with this belief. The fact is that Jesus survived the crucifixion in a state of near death, and then secretly fled to Kashmir through India where he [ultimately] died.13 The teachings of the Gospels—regardless of whether they have been accused of plagiarism—emphasize only the human faculties of forbearance and forgiveness, and discard the rest. Everyone can understand that nothing which has been given to mankind by Divine Omnipotence is without a purpose, and every human faculty has a function.

Just as forgiveness and forbearance is considered a great virtue at certain times and occasions, so is retaliation, revenge and retribution considered a commendable moral quality at other times and on other occasions. Neither forgiveness, nor punishment is always desirable.

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Foot Notes:
12 This statement of the Jews is corroborated by Jesus (as) himself, for he says in the Gospels, “An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign, and there shall no sign be given unto it…” If Jesus (as) had shown miracles to the Jews, he would surely have referred to them on this occasion. [Author]

13 Those, who call themselves Muslims and yet believe that Jesus (as) ascended to heaven in his physical body, utter an absurdity against the Holy Quran which affirms Jesus’ death in the verse * , and precludes the possibility of a man ascending to heaven in the verse ** . How ignorant of them to hold a belief in
contradiction to the Word of God! There can be no greater folly than to translate the word tawaffa as ‘being lifted to heaven with one’s physical body’. Firstly, in no lexicon do we find the word tawaffa being translated
as such.

Moreover, since the verse speaks about the Day of Judgement, and this is what Jesus (as) will have to say for himself on that day, it follows that the Last Day will arrive but Jesus (as) will not have died, for he will have presented himself before God in his physical body before he could ever be made to suffer death. To misinterpret the Holy Quran thus is to surpass even the Jews in the art of interpolation! [Author]

* …when Thou didst cause me to die…—Al -Ma’idah, 5:118 [Publishers]

** Say, my Allah is Holy, I am not but a human being and a Messenger of God.—Bani Isra’il, 17:94 [Publishers]

12 This statement of the Jews is corroborated by Jesus (as) himself, for he says in the Gospels, “An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign, and there shall no sign be given unto it…” If Jesus (as) had shown miracles to the Jews, he would surely have referred to them on this occasion. [Author]

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Fountain-of-Christianity-20080505MN.pdf

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The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? With its “Peaceful Version”!

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, had already been started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

 

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

Did Jesus marry and had children?

Hi

I understand from: http://translate.google.com/translat…ir%26 hl%3Den

http://TombOfJesus.com / Welcome

Welcome – Willkommen – Bienvenue – Bienvenidos – Khush amaadiid – Benvenuto ! Welcome – Willkommen – Bienvenue – Bienvenidos – Khush amaadiid – Welcome!

NEL SITO WEB “LA TOMBA DI GESU’ CRISTO”

WEB SITE IN THE TOMB OF JESUS ‘CHRIST

Questo sito fornisce numerose evidenze che Gesù Cristo è morto e sepolto in una tomba a Srinagar, Kashmir, India, e non ritornerà sulla Terra.

This site provides much evidence that Jesus Christ died and was buried in a tomb in Srinagar, Kashmir, India, and not return to Earth.

Il sito prende in esame una serie di prove che vanno dalla Sindone di Torino all’origine israelita di alcune genti dell’Asia.

Si propone lo scopo di raccogliere i risultati di ricerche e di materiale vario collegati a questa teoria e provenienti dalle fonti più diverse.

It is proposed to collect the results of research and various materials related to this theory, and coming from

The site looks at a series of tests ranging from the Shroud of Turin to Israel of some peoples of Asia.

different sources.

Il materiale che si trova nel sito è disponibile anche in forma stampata nel libro “Saving the Savior:

Did Jesus survive the Crucifixion?” disponibile The material that is found in the site is also available in printed form in the book “Saving the Savior: Did Jesus survive the Crucifixion?”

Available qui . here.

E’ importante tener presente fin dall’inizio che questa teoria non è un prodotto del movimento “New Age”.

It ‘important to keep in mind from the outset that this theory is not a product of the movement “New Age”.

Questo sito è dedicato a presentare l’ipotesi che Gesù Cristo è sopravvissuto fisicamente alla crocifissione come essere umano “normale”, poi ha viaggiato verso oriente per raggiungere le tribù ebraiche che si erano sparse sui confini settentrionali dell’Afghanistan ed in Kashmir, nell’India del nord.

This site is dedicated to the idea that Jesus Christ physically survived the crucifixion as a human being “normal”, then traveled eastwards to reach the Jewish tribes who were scattered on the northern border of Afghanistan and in Kashmir, in ‘ northern India.

Era possibile sopravvivere a una crocifissione?

It was possible to survive a crucifixion?

Leggiamo il seguente resoconto di Giuseppe Flavio, uno storico dell’antichità:

“Fui mandato da Tito Cesare con Ceralio e un migliaio di uomini a cavallo in una cittadina chiamata Thecoa, per esaminare se vi si poteva installare un campo militare.

“I was sent by Titus Caesar with cereals and a thousand

We read the following statement of Josephus, a historian of antiquity:

men on horseback in a small town called Thecoa to examine whether there was a military installation.

Al mio ritorno vidi molti prigionieri che erano stati crocifissi, e ne riconobbi tre, un tempo miei compagni. Molto turbato, andai da Tito con le lacrime agli occhi e gli parlai di loro.

Egli diede subito l’ordine di tirarli giù dalla croce e cercare nel modo migliore di farli guarire.

He immediately gave the order to tirarli do

Upon my return I saw many prisoners who had been crucified, and recognized three, once my friends. Very upset, I went to Tito with tears in his eyes and spoke to them.

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from the cross and search the best way to heal them.

Ma due di loro morirono mentre erano sotto le cure del dottore; il terzo invece si riprese e guarì.

” But two of them died while they were under the care of the doctor and the third hand is healed and shooting. “

(Giuseppe Flavio, Vita, IV, 75) (Josephus, Vita, IV, 75)

La teoria sostenuta in questo sito web continua così: dopo essere sopravvissuto alla crocifissione, Gesù Cristo arrivò in Kashmir, dove rimase per il resto della sua vita.

The theory supported in this web site continues: after surviving the crucifixion, Jesus Christ came to Kashmir, where he remained for the rest of his life.

Lì prese parte alla vita delle tribù israelite della zona, continuando a pregare.

There he took part in the life of the Israelite tribe of the area and continued to pray.

Il libro Negaristan-i-Kashmir dice che egli poi sposò una donna di nome Marian, che gli diede dei figli.

The book Negaristan-i-Kashmir said that he later married a woman named Marian, who gave him their children.

Morì alla tarda età di 120 anni.

He died at the age of 120 years.

La sua tomba si trova nel quartiere Mohala Kan Yar della città di Srinagar, capitale dello Jammu & Kashmir, India del Nord, ed è chiamata Roza Bal (“Il posto della Tomba Onorata”).

His tomb is located in Mohala Kan Yar district of the city of Srinagar, capital of Jammu & Kashmir, North India, and is called Roza Bal

( “The place of the tomb Onorata).

La fotografia che si vede sulla homepage è riprodotta per gentile concessione di Holger Kersten

The photo you see on the homepage is reproduced courtesy of Holger Kersten

Durante i suoi viaggi – si dice – ha assunto il nome di Yuz Asaf (Yus Asaph), un nome che, secondo alcuni, significava “Gesù il Raccoglitore”, ed è sepolto a Roza Bal sotto quel nome.

During his travels – they say – given the name of Yuz Asaf (Yus Asaph), a name which, according to some, meant “Jesus the Collector”, and is buried in Roza Bal under that name.

Questo sito, e le informazioni che contiene, non sono proprietà di qualche particolare fede o “ismo” o organizzazione; inoltre l’idea di una vita di Gesù dopo la crocifissione non è l’invenzione di un individuo particolare.

This site and the information it contains, does not belong to any particular faith or “ism” or organization and that the idea of a life of Jesus after the crucifixion is not the invention of a particular individual.

Per tutto il tempo che va da S. For all the time that goes from St. Ireneo (125 dC-202 dC) fino allo studioso Dott. Fida Hassnain, ci sono state molte persone che hanno fornito informazioni sul fatto che Gesù è stato visto in “Asia” o in India molto tempo dopo la crocifissione.

Irenaeus (125 AD-202 AD) to the scholar Dr. Fida Hassnain, there have been many people who provided information on the fact that Jesus was seen in Asia or in India long after the crucifixion.

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