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Buddha did believe in soul

June 10, 2015

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Paarsurrey wrote:
“If by soul we mean simply that human beings have a spiritual aspect that is not ultimately bound up with physical processes, then Buddhism would be much more sympathetic to the idea. Buddhism may deny the existence of a “soul” but it is not for that reason “soul-less” in the same way as is materialist philosophy.”​

Buddha did believe in soul.

Regards

“Is there a soul in Buddhism”

http://www.arrowriver.ca/dhamma/soul.html

On soul:Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

January 26, 2014

I have given following comments on the “Triangulations” blog on the topic “Heavenly Soul Bank & Right Belief”:

paarsurrey
01/26/2014 at 3:27 pm

I would like to quote here on “soul” from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, The Promised Messiah/Imam Mahdi:

“It is absolutely true that the soul is a fine light developed inside the body and which is nurtured in the womb. To begin with it is hidden and imperceptible and later it is made manifest. From the very beginning its essence is present in the sperm. It is related to the sperm in a mysterious manner by the design and command and will of God. It is a bright and illumined quality of the sperm. It cannot be said that it is a part of the sperm as matter is part of matter, nor can it be said that it comes from outside or falls upon the earth and gets mixed with the matter of the sperm. It is latent in the sperm as fire is latent in the flint.”

“The truth is that the soul is developed in the body and this also proves that it is created and is not self-existent.”

“Philosophy of Teaching of Islam” pages 14, 15

Click to access Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf

Does it help?

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/01/25/heavenly-soul-bank-right-belief/#comment-123388

Where will one live up to the Day of Judgment after one dies and is put in the grave?

March 31, 2013

Question and Answer session with Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad, 18 November 1995

http://www.alislam.org/v/544.html

Please start viewing the video, setting play-head position, for the relevant Q10 @ 01:50:00 People are going to be judged according to their faith in Yaumul Qiyamah (the Day of judgment). If I die now will I go on living in the grave till the Day of judgment or will I be taken to the heaven and live in Paradise. I want to know what will happen when I die? Its answer ends @ 02:01:14: the answer is only: 51.14 in duration.

Paarsurrey says: While I heard the video; I typed some words or syllables for benefit of the viewers, so that they could have an idea about the contents of the answer. Please correct me if I did it incorrectly.

when we lose consciousness, soul, enigma for scientist, soul of animals finishes with their death, soul of humans lives on, body is finished, independent entity is born within our soul, energy bundles, human energy, some sort of consciousness, further development of soul, centre of thinking , material in a way but not exactly material, crude level, defy form, experience in dreams, defy the natural laws of our real world, as if live, as you are dreaming you believe as if it is real, similar qualities, philosophy of teachings of Islam, essence, goodness or evil, a personality is born within our self, we make our own heaven or hell, goodness is its own reward, not accidental, before the resurrection, faculty of suffering, sense of shame, sense of exposure, in short, healthier soul within us, go for a pure heart such hearts will be saved, love of God and purity of heart is the same thing.

The book mentioned in the video “Philosophy of Teachings of Islam” may be access on the following link:

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf

Heart of Light and Love

March 10, 2013

Paarsurrey says:

I appreciate Krishna exhorting Arjuna to conquer his self; it is the most difficult thing to do; nevertheless the best aim one could have in one’s life.

[79:41] But as for him who fears to stand before his Lord, and restrains his soul from evil desires,
[79:42] The Garden shall surely be his home.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=79&verse=40

Theosophy Watch

being-lightSPIRITUAL visions are usually the result of  long and toilsome discipline, cleaning up one’s mental, emotional, psychological and physical defects.

Krishna urges on his disciple Arjuna to the task, assuring him that “he who conquers himself is greater than the conquerors of worlds.”

But everyone agrees its no easy job. Entrenched habits notoriously put up a fuss when challenged. “If one directs himself to eliminating all old Karma,” wrote Mme. Blavatsky’s colleague W. Q. Judge, “the struggle very often becomes tremendous.”

 “The whole load of ancient sin rushes to the front on a man,” Judge warns in Letters That Have Helped Me (p. 20), “and the events succeed each other rapidly.”

Is getting to the bottom things always so difficult? After all, some people experience sudden ‘aha’ moments, intuitive flash awakenings that reveal to them instantly all their karmic threads, and even the future. An profound event like a…

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Buddha- believed in life in hereafter

April 5, 2012

Buddha says, as per, Gospel of Buddha:

“Since then, O bhikkhus, there is no self, there cannot be any after life of a self. Therefore abandon all thought of self. But since there are deeds and since deeds continue, be careful with your deeds. “ Verse-31: Chapter- 40: Page-117

http://reluctant-messenger.com/gospel_buddha/
Paarsurrey comments: Perhaps Buddha is not denying the life in hereafter here, as he links it to the denial of self while one is alive and when one dies only the soul lives with the deeds it has done in this world.

The spiritual matters have a strong relationship with the things moral and physical

May 26, 2009

Len Nederlof says:
https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2009/05/18/there-is-little-historicity-in-the-bible-as-mostly-it-consists-of-fables-and-stories-written-mythically/

These things are not a question of reasonable and logical arguments. They are spiritual matters and they are spiritually discerned. I am a Christian, a Jesus follower, not a Paul follower like so many others who call themselves Christian.

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend Len Nederlof

Sorry, I don’t agree with you. The spiritual matters have a strong relationship with the things moral and physical. The spirit moves with the body where-ever you go.

A spirit cannot exist without the body; neither the human body can lifely exists without the spirit; this amply show that the relationship of the spirit or soul is very strong.

It rather enhances our temporal being but nevertheless is most reasonable, I think.

The spiritual matters are sensible and equitable and hence are a concentrate of reason and reality; never unreasonable and illogical, in my opinion.

I love Jesus and Mary as described in Quran; not the mythical accounts of the cunning Paul and the sinful scribes in the Bible.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

The True Book from God – the Creator, is logically the one which conforms to His law of nature, and the true Divine Word is that which does not contradict His action

May 11, 2009

~It is not true that God’s Action as mentioned in the Bible should point to one thing and His word to another

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, the Promised Messiah, the Second Coming says:

This is what Allah teaches us in the Holy Quran:
‘The recompense of an injury is an injury the like thereof;
but whoso forgives and his act brings about reformation,15
his reward is with Allah.’
This is the teaching of the Holy Quran. The Gospel, on
the other hand, teaches unconditional forgiveness at all
times, and thus tramples upon all sense of expediency on
which the social structure is based. It only emphasizes the
growth of one branch of the ‘tree’ of human ethics, and
completely disregards all the others.

But, strangely enough, Jesus (as) did not act upon his own
moral teachings. He cursed the fig tree when he found it
to be barren, while he exhorted others to pray. And while
he taught others not to call anyone a fool, he himself went
to the extent of calling the Jewish elders misbegotten,
hurling abuses at them in every sermon and calling them
foul names. A teacher of morals must first exhibit those
morals in himself. Could such a flawed teaching, which
Jesus (as) himself did not follow, be from God?

The only pure and perfect teaching is that of the Holy
Quran, which nourishes all human faculties. It does not
emphasize any one aspect, rather it teaches a judicious
exercise of both forgiveness and chastisement. In truth,
the Holy Quran is a reflection of the Divine law of nature
which we witness all around us. It stands to reason that
there should be harmony between God’s word and action.
The action of God, as we see it in this world, must necessarily
be the basis for the word of God contained in His
True Book—not that His Action should point to one thing
and His word to another. With regard to His action, we
observe that forgiveness is by no means the rule, and that
He also inflicts upon the wrongdoers various kinds of
punishments, which have been mentioned in earlier scriptures
as well. Our God is not only Forbearing, but He is
also most severe in His wrath.

The True Book, therefore,
is the one which conforms to His law of nature, and the
true Divine Word is that which does not contradict His
action. We have never observed God to be continually
forbearing and forgiving towards His creatures and never
punishing them. Even today God has warned the wicked
people through me and has told of a powerful and terrible
earthquake which will destroy them; and the plague has
not yet subsided either. Do you not remember what happened
to the people of Noah (as) and what befell the nation
of Lot (as)?

Do understand that the essence of the Shariah is
, which means to adopt the attributes of the
Exalted and Glorious God. This is the highest perfection a
soul can attain. The desire to acquire morals greater than
God’s, is sheer blasphemy, and amounts to an attack on
His holy attributes.
You should also consider that it is God’s eternal and established
law that He forgives in response to repentance
and penitence, and hears the prayers of His righteous servants
which are offered by way of intercession.

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Foot Notes:

14 Al-Shura, 42:41 [Publishers]
15 The Holy Quran does not approve of that forgiveness which serves no
good purpose, for it only corrupts human morals and creates disorder in
society. The Holy Quran only sanctions that forgiveness which results in
reformation. [Author]

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Fountain-of-Christianity-20080505MN.pdf

The spirit or soul by the command of God Allah YHWH naturally grows and evolves from within the fetus, it is not eternal

May 3, 2009

paul8bee says:

I further believe that the spirit that drove these two individuals existed long before either of them were born. The spirit is eternal, as I see it.

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend paul8bee

May God Allah YHWH bless you!

Sorry, I don’t get your point. Please elaborate further.

God Allah YHWH is not a spirit or soul. God is only a being of attributes needing no body or soul. All physical and spiritual bodies have been created by Him; since God is the Creator, so by definition He is not a created spirit. Further, a spirit cannot exist without a body, so unless a body of future living thing reaches a stage fit to be living, the spirit or soul by the command of God Allah YHWH naturally grows and evolves from within the fetus, and lo a child starts breathing.

This is clearly mentioned in Quran-the Secure Word of God, not without reason but with clear arguments and it is understandable.

Buddha died 500 years before the birth of Jesus. Unless Jesus himself went to Tibet and India and followers of Buddha due to his prophecy about coming of Metteyya/Messiah/Christ accepted Jesus, there seems no possibility of the similarities between the teachings and deeds of Jesus and Buddha.

The spirits do not act this ways as the spirits are not eternal but a creation of God Allah YHWH.

Kindly therefore elaborate further your concept and its basis.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran and not as presented by Paul or the sinful scribes.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Comparison with a different viewpoint- always useful

June 3, 2008

Hi

 

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim. I respect your religion and your views about spirit/soul and/ or spirituality.

 

The PromisedMessiah 1835-1908 has explained the subject; though it might be somewhat different from yours; but at times one understands more by making a comparison with a different view and new vistas of understanding open up before one. May be you like it.

 

Your may like to access the following link:

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf

Please read the first quetion answered there “The Physical, Moral and spiritual States of Man”.

 

You are also welcome to visit my blogsite if you could do so convenienty for comments on the posts/pages there and/ or for a peacful discussion.

 

Thanks