Atheism is like thinking one is in a dark room while the room is well-lit

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http://fidedubitandum.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/materialism-vs-the-mind/#comment-3918

paarsurrey
April 8th, 2014 at 6:19 am
Reblogged this on paarsurrey and commented:

I totally agree with you.

The same way one could ask the materialists; do you exist? If yes, give its proofs and evidences. They never give answer to this question.

Thanks and regards

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paarsurrey
April 10th, 2014 at 6:03 am

@Debilis : April 9th, 2014 at 11:43 pm
“That one has never occurred to me, I must admit.
I’ll have to remember that.”

Thanks for your appreciation. You make good points defending religion.

The arguments, though sophisticated and philosophical for the learned at times; should have a simple form also so that ordinary people could benefit from them and they could also defend religion on their own.

Most people are not much educated; religion is also for them; they should be equipped to defend religion in simple terms.

Communication between us is proof of our existence; otherwise we are just illusions or shadows of existence.

God has communicated with perfect men among human beings in all ages and all regions of the world; that is a strong proof of His existence.

Regards

http://fidedubitandum.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/materialism-vs-the-mind/#comment-3940

paarsurrey
April 10th, 2014 at 6:46 am

@john zande:April 10th, 2014 at 4:23 am

“1. Philosophy is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat.
2. Metaphysics is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat that isn’t there.
3. Theology is like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat that isn’t there, and shouting “I found it!”
4. Science is like being in a dark room and looking for a switch. The light will reveal a cat… if there is one.”Unquote

I would like to add two more categories to the above.

5. Revealed Religion is like being in a dark room and looking for a cat from its meowing; if the room is dark one cannot know the color of a cat.
6. Atheism is like thinking one is in a dark room while the room is well-lit; and one sees a black cat but insists that there is no cat out there.

Regards

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Frank Morris
April 10th, 2014 at 10:27 pm

John, I’d say you are as much in the dark as any of us, so you don’t know what is there or what isn’t.

Atheism is like being in a brightly lit room filled with cats and denying cats exist.

Perhaps the majority in the room have found something you haven’t found yet.

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paarsurrey
April 11th, 2014 at 5:58 am

@Frank Morris : April 10th, 2014 at 11:15 pm
“paarsurrey, you and I had the same thought on number 6, but I hadn’t read your post yet.
As an open-minded skeptic who rejected everything told to me at school, home or church to try to see what the facts are really telling me, I may be in a 7th group.
I am in a brightly lit room desperately fumbling for a light switch but finding cats.” Unqote

Frank Morris

Thanks for your appreciation. I regularly view Fide Dubitandum and sometimes I write comments also. I like Debilis defending religion with good arguments.

You are welcome to visit my blog @ https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/

I would be pleased to visit your blog and enjoy your wisdom; please give me the link of your blog.

Regards

No founder of a revealed religion ever opposed science or scientific endeavors

http://www.is-there-a-god.info/blog/life/science-on-religion-looks-at-science-vs-religion/#comment-8873

paarsurrey
MAR 24, 2014 @ 14:37:36

I think science and religion work in different realm; so there is no contradiction in science and religion if correctly interpreted.

No founder of a revealed religion like Buddha, Krishna, Moses, Zoroaster, Socrates, Jesus and Muhammad ever opposed science or scientific endeavors.

Religious people have served science very much; this fact cannot be denied.

Religion is a path that leads to God; this path is not physical or material; so science has nothing to do with it.

I think everybody reasonable must have to agree with it.

Thanks and regards

No wisdom in leaving a revealed religion to join Atheism, just for convenience

Please view paarsurrey’s comments: blog, topic, link below:

“The Calladus Blog” topic “What I believe”
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@Calladus : 25/2/14 9:21 PM: 26/2/14 8:07 AM

I was not even implying to that. I know that you are an atheist, not a Christian. My point was that though you studied Christianity intensively and other religions not up-to that level; yet your study of or research of revealed religions was impaired only because you did not have a right tool or principle of comparative study of religions ; and then you all of a sudden decided to become an Atheist, just for convenience.

I had suggested you to read a book “THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE TEACHINGS OF ISLAM” by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908- the Promised Messiah; I again give its link below:

Click to access Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf

This was an essay written by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 read at a conference of great religions held at Lahore in the then British India, in the year 1896.

The very first sentence of the essay reads “It is necessary that a claim and the reasons in support of it must be set forth from a revealed book.”

I use to describe it as a “Golden rule for comparative study of revealed religions”; and this principle is explained in the next two pages by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad:

Quote:

“In this auspicious Conference the purpose of which is that those who have been invited to participate in it should expound the merits of their respective religions with reference to the questions that have been formulated. I shall today set forth the merits of Islam. Before I proceed to do so I deem it proper to announce that I have made it obligatory upon myself that whatever I state will be based upon the Holy Quran which is the Word of God Almighty.

I consider it essential that everyone who follows a book, believing it to be revealed, should base his exposition upon that book and should not so extend the scope of his advocacy of his faith as if he is compiling a new book.

As it is my purpose today to establish the merits of the Holy Quran and to demonstrate its excellence, it is incumbent upon me not to state anything which is not comprehended in the Quran and to set forth everything on the basis of its verses and in accord with their meaning and that which might be inferred from them, so that those attending the Conference should encounter no difficulty in carrying out a comparison between the teachings of different religions.

As all those who believe in a revealed book will also confine themselves to statements comprised in their respective revealed books, I shall not make any reference to the traditions of the Holy Prophet, inasmuch as all true traditions are only derived from the Holy Quran which is a perfect book comprehending all other books.

In short this is the day of the manifestation of the glory of the Holy Quran and I humbly beseech God Almighty to assist me in this undertaking. Amin. “ Unquote

Had one known this principle before; I think one’s decision would have been different.

One is welcome to try it now; if one pleases.

The day science quietly killed religion

Paarsurrey says:

I don’t agree with you.
Religion has not been killed. It is still alive. Revealed religion covers ethical, moral and spiritual aspects of life; science covers the physical and material. They both complement one another; they are not contradictory.

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War and Jainism

War and Jainism

I believe on sound arguments that every Revealed Religion and its founders were all peaceful and peace promoting.
Jainism is also one such religion.

Due to the current political situation in the world and due to the terrorists it is generally held, though wrongly, that Islam is not peaceful and Jainism is peaceful.

For a comparison, the root teachings of Quran should be taken into account.

The Jains had been at war in the history. Just for record I give one such link:

http://jainhistory.tripod.com/dare.html

War and Buddhism

War and Buddhism

I believe on sound arguments that every Revealed Religion and its founders were all peaceful and peace promoting.
Buddha and Muhammad were one such peace loving religious founders. Due to the current political situation in the world and due to the terrorists it is generally held, though wrongly, that Islam is not peaceful and Buddhism is peaceful.
For a comparison, the root teachings of Quran should be taken into account.

The Buddhists had been at war in the history. Just for record I give one such link:

http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbuddhistteachings/a/war.htm