Posts Tagged ‘preservation’

God took the responsibility of securing the text of Quran, verbal as well as in writing form and also its meaning

March 29, 2016
Post #244

With the advent of Muhammad, humanity took a turn and a new era ushered in, G-d took the responsibility of guarding the text of Word of His Revelation and it meaning, so those whose conscience is lacking something, they could benefit from it in all times. This is a peculiarity of Islam/Quran/Muhammad not found in other religions, their scriptures and their founders.

Regards
#223

ReligiousForums.com

Thread: “Did you read Quran neutrally?”

Post:  #244

http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/did-you-read-quran-neutrally.89002/page-13#post-4692083

Quran Verse [29:70]: meaning Seekers after Truth surely would find Truth

January 15, 2014

Quran Verse [29:70]:

[29:70] And as for those who strive in Our path — We will surely guide them in Our ways. And verily Allah is with those who do good.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=29&verse=69

One of my Atheist friends on another blog has cast doubt on the collection, compiling and preservation of Quran.

I quoted the above verse for the meaning and the reason mentioned in it; and I always do that.

One can, if one likes to, doubt its words; but if there is a reason mentioned in it and one finds it to be truthful; the reason should not be rejected just for the doubt in the literal text.

I think it is a general observation that one who strives and works hard for a thing, and leaves no stone unturned gets successful in the end.

I find similar sentence/writings in other cultures and religious scriptures of the world. If one searches one would testify to its Truth. It is full of wisdom.

One gets fruit of one’s labor to be sure. If one is not sure of one’s search one could never get into any scientific search/research.

For search in the path to reaching One-True-God; He has added assurance to the seekers; they should not be in doubt that they will fail; the honest search will be fruitful.

It is not a bad work to search; it is a positive step and is good for the individual and for the society.

Quran mentions in the very beginning of it while describing the merit and excellences of the believers/seekers:

[2:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[2:2] Alif Lam Mim.
[2:3] This is a perfect Book; there is no doubt in it; it is a guidance for the righteous,
[2:4] Who believe in the unseen and observe Prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them;
[2:5] And who believe in that which has been revealed to thee, and that which was revealed before thee, and they have firm faith in what is yet to come.
2:6] It is they who follow the guidance of their Lord and it is they who shall prosper.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=2

The believers/seekers have to be open-minded; and they must confirm the Truth in other scripture as much as it is in them; and the corruption done by scribes has to be pointed out if there is found any. This is what I do; and this is what Quran teaches one to do.

With all the reasons mentioned above; if one still doubts the text of the verse [29:70]: then one should identify the person who wrote or added it to Quran; and give the reference of the Quran which did not contain this verse or with other text in the original Arabic.

The burden of proof is on such claimant/s; no compulsion however.

Quran’s real charm is its profound system of meaning conveyed in its message

May 9, 2013

I give here  posts written by me for my favourite discussion forum on the thread <Is Islam a universal religion>: http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/religious-debates/147598-islam-universal-religion-13.html

#127

Quran does not mention it; that could be only opinions of those who claim it.

It is true that Quran if read in the Arabic language a little loudly in a manner that it does not disturb others has its own spell-bound charm; that cannot be denied.

Nevertheless; its real charm is its profound system of meaning conveyed in its message; one could benefit from, in any language.

I have personal experience of this; people borrow questions from unfriendly websites; but when referred to Quran, for the text and context, the questions become irrelevant.

One may just try it.

The focus of praying in Arabic is for preservation of the text; along-with the Arabic one could silently make a translation in one’s own language, it is not forbidden.

It is emphasized that one should also pray in one’s own mother-tongue for personal prays (supplications) in sajda (Prostration) or ruku (bowing down following the recitation of the Quran in the standing position while praying); that is most appreciated. The stress is that one’s spirit should move along the body.

For the “holy language” or that other languages are “unholy”; citation from Quran may please be given.

I may add here that all translations, in fact, are commentaries as one could translate only to the extent one understands; if one does not understand fully one’s translation would be defective to that extent.

#130 Translations of Quran are not the real word of God; that is factual and reasonable; that does not mean that Quran should not be translated for understanding it.

Paarsurrey says:

One may like to comment there in the forum or here in this blog, my pleasure.

Bible -not preserved word for word in the original form

April 25, 2013

As I mentioned in one of my recent earlier post and later we discussed and we observed that just on account of discrepancy in number of books in the Bible, it is proved that the Catholic-Christians and the Protestant-Christians both stand cut off from the tree of life; if the warning in the book of revelation is generalized and extended toe whole of Bible. Since every book has been written at different times and different authors; every book of Bible needs a separate protection or preservation clause.

Here in this post we will see that “Mark the earliest gospel does not mention resurrection” and ends with the empty tomb; the tenet of resurrection of Jesus or ascension of Jesus was added into the gospels about two hundred years later.

One could view a BBC documentary in this connection:thanks to BBC and blog.tsemtulku.com :Jesus was a Buddhist Monk (BBC documentary):

Please start viewing the video, setting play-head position @ 11.23 and hear the views expressed by BBC scholars.

Church had no authority to select one book and reject another one

June 2, 2009

Cindyinsd says:

If the Bible is corrupted, then it must, at some time, have been pure. I have never heard a Muslim (or a Mormon or a Jehovah’s Witness, who also claim the Bible is corrupted) ever argue that the Bible was never the word of God.

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend cindyinsd

I can’t speak on behalf of the JWs or the Mormons; they would defend their faith themselves if any one of them views it.

Quran does acknowledge that God Allah YHWH conversed with Moses and Jesus; there is no doubt about that they were revealed a Message from God Allah YHWH for their people.

God Allah YHWH however never took responsibility for its preservation or protection from corruption. There is no straightforward verse for that matter in the Bible; if there is one, you are welcome to quote it.

The scribes were entrusted with this job; and they did not perform their duty as they should have done it; they added texts, their comments or commentaries or events that suited their respective denominations.

Anyone who reads these books; can see these things visibly; it is wrong to state that they are reasonably secure; they are not secure.

Church had no authority to select one book and leave another one. They have not been faithful to Moses or Jesus respectively.

I respect your faith; you are free to believe what you think is truth for you.

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Moses and his mother.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim