Posts Tagged ‘persecuted’

Islam always spread by peace and with peace

April 8, 2014

The viewers should access the following link to know the context of the discussion; and only then one should form one’s own sincere and independent opinion.

http://anaivethinker.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/how-i-became-an-atheist/comment-page-1/#comment-214

paarsurrey | April 8, 2014 at 4:16 pm

@anaivethinker | April 3, 2014 at 10:33 pm
@Howie | April 8, 2014 at 1:47 pm
“Islam was started by the tip of the sword” Unquote

There is no teachings of violence in Quran/Islam/Muhammad; absolutely none; and Islam/Quran promote nothing but peace.

The Meccans persecuted Muslims at Mecca; imprisoned them, killed many among them. They did not allow Muslims any free will or any freedom of religion; to the point that the Muslims had to emigrate from Mecca to Medina to save their lives and enjoy religious freedom; some 100 kilometers afar; yet they did not allow Muslims to live in peace at Medina and aggressively attacked them to finish them off the surface of the planet earth well equipped and outnumbered.

They never listened to any reason; they entered into treaties yet always broke them. They openly held that sword will decide between us.

So sword was the choice of Meccans not of Muslims.

Thanks and regards

Do Ahmadis deny Jihad, a pillar of Islam?

April 5, 2013

Question and Answer session with Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad, 5 November 1995

http://www.alislam.org/v/607.html

Please start viewing the video, setting play-head position, for the relevant Q #2 @ 00:08:51 Non Ahmadis say JIHAD is the pillar of Islam and they also say Ahmadis do not believe in Jihad, Is it right or wrong? Its answer ends @ 00:31:30: the answer is only: 22.79 in duration.

Paarsurrey notes following hint words and syllables in the contents of the reply to the question asked:

Ahmadis believe in all the fundamentals of Islam, Quran is still valid, the word Jihad is misrepresented by some mullahs intentionally, murdering people for religious differences is not Jihad, Jihad with the Quran, Quran strives for the victory of Islam, Quran allows only to fight back, believers were turned out of their homes, they were persecuted, atrocities committed against them, believers were in small number of 313 at Badar, even then they were thought capable of defeating the Meccans, for political ends the mullah interprets the verses incorrectly, the places of hermit of Jews, Christians and Muslims are to be safeguarded, to establish right of worship, mosques are mentioned in the end, this is the comprehensive concept of Jihad, Bosnians, Iraq, to seek the help of non-believers for Jihad is not permitted, an Arab idolater offered his services for fighting but not allowed, Mullahs don’t practice Islam.

Note-1: one may like to know more about Jihad & Terrorism:
http://www.alislam.org/terrorism.html

Note-2: Following verses were quoted in the reply:
1. [25:53] So obey not the disbelievers and fight against them by means of it (the Qur’an) a great fight.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=25&verse=52
2. [22:40] Permission to fight is given to those against whom war is made, because they have been wronged — and Allah indeed has power to help them —
[22:41] Those who have been driven out from their homes unjustly only because they said, ‘Our Lord is Allah’ — And if Allah did not repel some men by means of others, there would surely have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft commemorated. And Allah will surely help one who helps Him. Allah is indeed Powerful, Mighty —
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=22&verse=39

“The holier they get, the scarier they get”

February 27, 2010

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/eboo_patel/2010/02/the_religious_textbooks_wars.html

Paarsurrey wrote:
February 26, 2010 7:27 AM

Hi friends

The Religion should be a part of the education of children in Schools; so that they have an idea of Ethics, Morals and the Spiritual progress. There is no harm if the point of view of the Seculars or Humanists or the Atheists is also accommodated in the text books.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Arkns wrote:
February 26, 2010 12:07 PM

Ahmadiyyas are peaceful Muslims. Unfortunately, they are persecuted in Pakistan. It seems someone told the Sunnis that they are the only true representatives of Islam. Meanwhile, the real McCoy is still out.

All this holy business in Islam, all this rigid viewpoints and ways of living is not amounting to much. Zilch would be nice but the overall effect is really negative, not even zero.

I have no problem with nonobservant Muslims. They are pretty nice. It is the devout ones that are scary. It seems that the holier they get, the scarier they get. One can see this when boarding a plane anywhere along with long bearded devout Muslims in skull caps. Their overwhelming piety makes the trip a scary one.

There are external laws of science as there are internal laws of the spirit. In the laboratory of the world, sodium plus chloride gives you sodium chloride. In the internal world, a longing heart plus religious practices (that is worth the paper they are written on) should give us a mellow heart. Spiritual practices must lead to an expanded consciousness, a heart that melts in empathy and love for fellow human beings. God and Prophet should lead you to universal love and compassion, not universal bloody-mindedness. I will question any God if the practices He prescribes leads towards hatred and not towards love.

Yes, from where I come from even God is answerable. Consider the Buddha who told Ananda, His chief disciple:
“Don’t accept something just because I said it. Go out and test what I say and accept it only if the results are positive but reject it if the results are negative”.

Thus spake Zarathustra!

Paarsurrey wrote:
February 27, 2010 8:35 AM

Hi friend arkns

I have enjoyed your entire post and agree with most of the points; in special the followings:
• The holier they get, the scarier they get.
• In the internal world, a longing heart plus religious practices (that is worth the paper they are written on) should give us a mellow heart.
• Buddha who told Ananda:”Don’t accept something just because I said it. Go out and test what I say and accept it only if the results are positive but reject it if the results are negative”.

Just a little question:

Are you a Buddhist or Zoroastrian? I hold them both in good esteem.

Regards

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Islam poses no threat to the freedom of thought, freedom of action and the spirit of discovery

November 9, 2009

Hi friends

Islam not only frees the body but the soul of the human beings. Of course one could achieve such ideals without trampling on the civil right of the others. It is for this that the Creator – God Allah YHWH sends his word of guidance on the perfect men called Messengers Prophets in all nations and regions of the world. These were the persons who got freed themselves regions physically, morally and spirituality. They never trampled on the rights of others; rather they gave them the rights even if they had to forgo their own rights:

[8:39] Say to those who disbelieve, if they desist, that which is past will be forgiven them; and if they return thereto, then verily, the example of the former peoples has already gone before them. [8:40] And fight them until there is no persecution and religion is wholly for Allah. But if they desist, then surely Allah is Watchful of what they do. [8:41] And if they turn their backs, then know that Allah is your Protector. What an excellent Protector and what an excellent Helper!

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?submitCh=Read+from+verse%3A&ch=8&verse=34

Muhammad was one such person; the cream of the humanity. He relinquished his rights but he fought for the rights of the persecuted and to establish the free will for everybody.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

Jesus went from one country to another, and at nightfall wherever he was he used to eat the vegetation of the jungle and to drink pure water

June 4, 2009

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, the Promised Messian, the Second Coming says:

Reliable reports in the Hadith show that the Holy Prophet said that Jesus was 125 years of age. Besides, all the sects of Islam believe that Jesus had two unique things about him — things which are not to be found in any other prophet, namely: (1) he lived to a full old age, i.e., to 125 years; (2) he travelled in many parts of the world and was therefore called the ‘travelling prophet’.

It is evident that if he had been raised to the skies when he was only 33 years old the report of ‘125 years’ could not have been true, nor could he have travelled so much while he was only thirty-three.

Not only are these reports found in the reliable Books of Hadith. They have been so well-known among all the Muslim sects that it is difficult to think of anything which has been more widely known among them.

Kanz-ul-Ummal (Volume 2) which is a comprehensive Book of Hadith, has on page 34 a Hadith from Abu Huraira: God directed Jesus (on whom be peace) ‘0 Jesus! Move from one place to another’ — go from one country to another lest thou shouldst be recognised and persecuted.

Again, in the same Book, on the report of Jabar, there is the Hadith1 Jesus always used to travel; he went from one country to another, and at nightfall wherever he was he used to eat the vegetation of the jungle and to drink pure water.

Again, in the same book, there is a report from Abdullah bin Umar:2 The Holy Prophet declared that the most favoured in the sight of God are the poor. Asked, what was meant by the poor? Were they the people who, like Jesus the Messiah, fled from their country with their faith?

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/ch2.html