Paul8bee : “This constant reference to the Holy Scriptures, is not at all interesting to one who is in fact tuned into god”; is he right to say it? A question to the viewers

I don’t think Science is a function of Atheism or that the Atheists have a sole legitimate claim on Science

~Science is a natural faculty for the inquisitive minds, whether religious or irreligious, which evolved with man in centuries.

Godless American says:

What’s really funny is how the Theologist is the one that resorts to science and the atheist only uses his personal sense of reality. Totally switched around, hilarious!

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/parable-of-the-atheist-and-the-theologist-paul8bee/#comments

paarsurrey says:

Hi friend Godless American

Thank you for visiting my blog and making some comments. I also just visited your blog
http://leftagenda.wordpress.com, and gone through the contents. Yours is a busy blog. You are welcome here; though your views would be differing views sometimes, but I don’t mind.

I don’t think that the Atheists have any sole rights on science. Science is a natural faculty for the inquisitive minds, whether religious or irreligious, which evolved with man in centuries. I don’t think Science is a function of Atheism or Religiosity.

It is free for any human without discrimination of being Theist or Non-Theist. There had been very great scientists who were amongst the Catholics Theists; and I admire them. There might be many, though not as great as Newton or Lois Pasture, nevertheless, there had been some scientists who are said to be Atheists; I admire them also. Any human being who has served God Allah YHWH well or who has served the Humanity, I admire them all.

Sorry, I don’t admire and don’t agree that a humanist should have the as I find it on your blog:

The Left Agenda

“We are a liberal, left-wing, progressive, and atheist blog. Little respect is given to right-wing ideology or Republican talking points. We enjoy laughing at right-wingers, and have no qualms lambasting them either. We hope you enjoy the Left Agenda. Please comment, debate, argue, insult, and laugh as much as you like. We will.”

Is it serving humanity or science? If you don’t mind; please feel free to tell us.

I love the Atheists/Agnostics as human beings as I love the Catholics, Protestants and JWs or Mormons

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

P.S.

The fable is authored by our friend paul8bee and is exhibited on his blog: http://paulscave.wordpress.com.

Please feel free to add your comments on his blog also for the diversity; he is a non-denominational Theist, from Vancouver, Canada.

Regards

Human interpretation can twist the entire message

Paarsurrey says:

While commenting on my comments, to his comments on my post:https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/mere-sinful-scribes-could-not-make-jesus-of-bible-any-better-god/#comments, our fried paul8bee, has made us rich with his learned views.

“”we all can be very wrong about what we believe””
The act of being crucified on the cross was a demonstration of freedom. ?
The enslavement of the mind to disillusionment is also slavery!?
“”Using the work of another to support my theory; Both I and the link could be false””
Human interpretation can twist the entire message.

paul8bee says:

URL : http://paulscave.wordpress.com

Wow, great comments.

As I understand things. Human beings have an incredible talent for self delusion. We can create and imagine just about anything at all, and believe that our manufactured thoughts are real and absolute.

I state this, because, before any serious discussion is to be had, all parties in the discussion must accept the truth that we all can be very wrong about what we believe, and we must be willing, at least, to admit we are wrong. “The smarter I get, the LESS I know”

In philosophy we have a tenet that is called “An Appeal to Authority”
Whenever I use a quote, such as the link I just posted, I am making an appeal to authority. This means that I am using the work of another to support my theory. This does not guarantee that the authority that I am quoting is correct, or that I am correct for that matter. Both I and the link could be false.

Many times I use a link to the bible. This is an appeal to the authority of the bible. But, make note, I do not understand the bible to be absolutely correct in all its assertions.

I have never read the Koran; therefore I can not have much of an opinion of what it says in that book. The fact is, that not one piece of literature is so perfect as to “not be misunderstood” .Human interpretation can twist the entire message. Having said all that, I’ll get to the point.

The act of being crucified on the cross was a demonstration of freedom. How can you control a slave nation, if no one will do as they are told?

Punishment was the way to control the slaves. Jesus was out to free the enslaved, those enslaved by sin, and those who were enslaved to law. The enslavement of the mind to disillusionment is also slavery, as real as being forced to work manual labor at the end of a whip.

Psychology is the study of the human mind. It is amazing just how much pain we put ourselves through with our minds.

Rules are for those who are expected to obey; Principles are for those who are expected to think. Jesus was not demonstrating disobedience to the law, but instead he was demonstrating the Principle of freedom. In short, when the individual is finally free from the paralyzing fear, which slavery to sin makes us all, then that person will begin to know peace.

This is my opinion, and I could be wrong.

My goal is, to communicate and not be misunderstood.

Therefore I maintain that I am a scholar, and have much yet to learn.
Thank for the dialog. It is always educational and inspirational to post ones thoughts and get some feedback.

Paarsurrey says:

We will discuss the above comments bit by bit with a spirit of learning in separate posts. Though I don’t agree to all his views, yet I appreciate most of them.

I love Jesus and his mission as described in Quran.

Regards

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim