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I don’t need to convince one; my life is my life

January 5, 2014

I re-blogged a post titled “Meaning In Life, 3 Jan 2014”; the link of which is given below:

http://myatheistlife.wordpress.com/2014/01/03/meaning-in-life-3-jan-2014/

Then a discussion ensued; which I give below for the viewers of my Paarsurrey blog; the viewers are at liberty to join the discussion on the above link or here in this blog. Comments are welcome even if one differs with me.

paarsurrey
January 3rd, 2014

Reblogged this on paarsurrey and commented:

Paarsurrey says:

One may like to read the following from Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908- the Promised Messiah:

The Object of Man’s Life and the Means of its Attainment

Different people, being short-sighted and lacking high resolve, appoint different purposes for their lives and limit themselves to worldly goals and ambitions. But the purpose that God Almighty has appointed for man in His Holy Word is as follows:
And I have not created the Jinn and the men but that they may worship Me. (The Holy Quran, adh-Dhariyat 51:57)
That is, I have created men and jinn so that they may know Me and worship Me. Thus the true purpose of man’s life is the worship of God, His understanding and complete devotion to Him.
It is obvious that man is not in a position to appoint the purpose of his own life, for he does not come into the world of his own accord, nor will he depart there from of his own will. He is a creature and the One Who created him and invested him better and higher faculties than those of all other animals, has also appointed a purpose for his life.
Whether anyone penetrates to it or not, the purpose of man’s creation without a doubt is the worship and the understanding of God and complete devotion to Him.

“The Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam” Pages 164-165
http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf

myatheistlife wrote:
January 4th, 2014

In the post http://myatheistlife.wordpress.com/2013/12/19/evidence-that-a-god-exists/ I describe what I would find suitable as evidence for a god. Until you can prove that your god exists there is little to no reason to listen to what you or your holy book says outside of the fact that Muslims seem to have a strange habit of blowing themselves up in the company of innocents. I’m not sure how that is supposed to fit your meaning for life, but I won’t accept that your particular version of a god fairy story is true till you can meet the standard for evidence I’ve listed in my other post. Good luck with that.

paarsurrey
January 4th, 2014

I don’t accept your standards. Why should one?

myatheistlife
January 4th, 2014

Well, you don’t have to unless you want to convince myself and others that your stories about a god are actually truths and not just the lies they seem to be.

paarsurrey wrote:
January 5th, 2014

I don’t need to convince you.

I have no claim to any piety or scholarship; I am an ordinary man in the street in search of Truth wherever I can find it.

I would like rather you to convince me that there is no God; with your evidences and proofs, if any.

I very naturally believe in the One-True-God Allah Yahweh, like I very naturally believe in my father and mother.

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Friday Sermon: Follow the Commandments of The Holy Quran

August 3, 2013

Friday Sermon: Follow the Commandments of The Holy Quran

Sermon Delivered by Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad at Head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. July 26th, 2013

 

Verses Cited in this Friday Sermon:

Synopsis:

  Hazrat Khalifatul Masih(aba) said: As explained in last Friday sermon, the month of Ramadan and the Holy Qur’an have a particular affinity because the revelation of the Qur’an began in this month. However, this connection can only avail if our recitation of the Qur’an during Ramadan is done in conjunction with reflecting over its directives and then these directives are made part of our lives. Otherwise we would not be fulfilling the objective of it being revealed in Ramadan.

  • The Promised Messiah(as) said: ‘The Holy Qur’an is a guidance through which its follower attains excellence and he develops a connection with God Almighty. His good deeds, which are in accordance to the directives of the Holy Qur’an, grow liked a blessed tree, as mentioned in the Holy Qur’an. They bear fruit which develop a distinctive sweetness and flavour.’
  • In the verses recited at the start of the sermon God has drawn attention to a few directives. These directives guide us towards Taqwa and towards paying the dues of God and the dues of mankind. Although the translation of the verses would have made these directive very clear, but Huzoor mentioned them once again as a remainder: Do not associate anyone or anything with God, Show kindness to parents, their mistreatment is forbidden, Do not kill your children for fear of poverty.
  • The Promised Messiah(as) said: ‘Shirk is three-fold. The first kind is general idol-worship and worship of trees. This is a broad, common Shirk. The second kind of Shirk is when too much reliance is placed on ways and means, that is, saying ‘if such and such did not happen, I would have died’, this is Shirk. The third kind of Shirk is whereby one considers oneself to something compared to God.
  • Promised Messiah(as) said: O people, worship the God, Who is One and without any partner, Who created you and your forefathers. You should fear the Powerful God Who made the earth a place to rest for you and the sky a cover. Who sent down water from the sky to create varied forms of sustenance for you from fruits. Do not knowingly associate those very things equal to Him which have been created for you.
  • Children should be given time and attention. Their education, affiliation with the Jama’at , good, pious upbringing should be given importance. Home environment should be made conducive to pious upbringing so that children can grow up to be useful members of society. It is certainly the responsibility of parents to bring them up in an excellent manner and to educate them well. Rather than follow their own preferences, parents should give time and attention to their children.
  • It is a cause for concern here that divorce rate is also increasing among us and it is ruining children when divorce takes place in a family with children. Parents should sacrifice their egos and preferences for the sake of their children. May God enable all of us to practice the commandments of the Holy Qur’an during Ramadan.

 Audio Translation available in following languages; please click language of your liking by accessing the website:

Urdu, Albanian, Arabic, Bengali, Bosnian, Bulgarian, French, German, Malayalam’ Swahili, Tamil, Turkish :http://www.alislam.org/friday-sermon/2013-07-26.html

Some of the Commandments of God

Do not associate anyone or anything with God

  1. Show Kindness to parents, their mistreatment is forbidden
  2. Do not kill your children for fear of poverty.
  3. However, this connection can only avail if our recitation of the Qur’an during Ramadan is done in conjunction with reflecting over its directives and then these directives are made part of our lives.,

I believe in one true God very naturally

July 15, 2013

There started a discussion between me and john zande; please click the following link to view it:

http://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2013/07/14/an-atheists-temple/

PAARSURREY says:

July 14, 2013 at 7:05 pm

I don’t think it is a temple.

 

I wouldn’t imagine for a second you would. After all, your Middle Eastern god is anti-knowledge:

For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”
(1 Corinthians 1:19)

 

A temple is for worship. I think inwardly your conscience wants to worship some greater power; please correct me if I am wrong.

I like atheists for a merit; they point out mistakes of the people who have gone mythical in their creeds. And it is a good thing to do.

But it should be done nicely.

I think you will agree with me on this point.

Of course. Atheist is merely a person who doesn’t believe in the gods. A much better word to describe me is a humanist, a naturalist… and we should always strive to be nice.

It is just fine. It is your choice to not believe in the one true God. If you like I will call you a humanist; and I know that a humanist must be humanly arguing with reason.

I think you will agree with me. Of course one has a choice to disagree also.

What is in a name?

The names are good if they describe some qualities or attributes. Different language could have different names expressing the same personage with the same qualities or attributes.

It has been very naturally with me. Like I believe in my father and mother; I never doubted about them. I believe in myself very naturally; I never doubted myself; and I don’t need any evidence for that; one could doubt if there is useful reason to it.

I think you also don’t doubt about yourself; and I accept your existence without any evidence whatsoever.

Don’t you?

“without any evidence whatsoever…”

There is physical, genetically verifiable evidence for your mother and father. There is evidence i exists: these words should suffice for that. There is no evidence for your Middle Eastern god.

I never needed any evidence for my father or mother; and I think 99.9% normal persons won’t need to check or verify it. Their love and support is an unequivocal evidence of their being my parent; additionally I could check it genetically I know; but there is no reasonable ground for me to check it.

Do you doubt your parents? I don’t think that you have to verify them genetically.

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Note: Let us see as to how our friend JOHN ZANDE replies to the above question.

An atheist’s temple…

July 15, 2013

Paarsurrey wrote:
I don’t think it is a temple.

I want to share below the discussion ensued on the topic above mentioned between me and john zande; the viewers are free to make their own reasonable opinion.

 

I wouldn’t imagine for a second you would. After all, your Middle Eastern god is anti-knowledge:

For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”
(1 Corinthians 1:19)

 

A temple is for worship. I think inwardly your conscience wants to worship some greater power; please correct me if I am wrong.

I like atheists for a merit; they point out mistakes of the people who have gone mythical in their creeds. And it is a good thing to do.

But it should be done nicely.

I think you will agree with me on this point.

Of course. Atheist is merely a person who doesn’t believe in the gods. A much better word to describe me is a humanist, a naturalist… and we should always strive to be nice.

It is just fine. It is your choice to not believe in the one true God. If you like I will call you a humanist; and I know that a humanist must be humanly arguing with reason.

I think you will agree with me. Of course one has a choice to disagree also.

What is in a name?

The names are good if they describe some qualities or attributes. Different language could have different names expressing the same personage with the same qualities or attributes.

It has been very naturally with me. Like I believe in my father and mother; I never doubted about them. I believe in myself very naturally; I never doubted myself; and I don’t need any evidence for that; one could doubt if there is useful reason to it.

I think you also don’t doubt about yourself; and I accept your existence without any evidence whatsoever.

Don’t you?

“without any evidence whatsoever…”

There is physical, genetically verifiable evidence for your mother and father. There is evidence i exists: these words should suffice for that. There is no evidence for your Middle Eastern god.

I never needed any evidence for my father or mother; and I think 99.9% normal persons won’t need to check or verify it. Their love and support is an unequivocal evidence of their being my parent; additionally I could check it genetically I know; but there is no reasonable ground for me to check it.

Do you doubt your parents? I don’t think that you have to verify them genetically.

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Bible | Quran | Parents

May 10, 2013

 

Question and Answer with Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad, 12 January 1996

http://www.alislam.org/v/546.html

Please start viewing the video, setting play-head position, for the relevant Q3 @ 00:13:56 My understanding after reading the Holy Bible and the Holy Quran is that second to Allah Almighty we should put our parents first. Though we should always respect our parents, their wishes and their guidance is there and time and cause that where we probably have the opportunity to disagree with exception of faith on social matters? Its answer ends @ 00:17:12; the answer is only: 3.38 in duration.

Paarsurrey noted following hint words and syllables in the contents of the reply to the questions asked, in case of doubt, please hear the video and correct accordingly:

Premise, after God the prophets, must be given priority, obey the Government, if there is a difference always Allah and the prophets should be given preference,

 

 

 

 

 

 

Americans love the phrase “God of our fathers”

March 27, 2013

The Americans could come together on the concept of God. I could say they are in search of God. There is no need to deny God, Jesus did not believe in Trinity, and there is no need to become skeptical about God and to deny Him.

One should believe in God very naturally as one believes in one’s parents- fathers and mothers. One is never in doubt about one’s parents. So; why should one be in doubt about God? It is not rational to deny Him.

I pray the Americans come together on the one true Creator God; everyone with one’s independent search. Is there any doubt about the one true creator God who has created this life through evolution in millions of years?

Which God of Our Fathers?

March 26, 2013

Paarsurrey says:

I think your article shows that the Americans don’t come together on the concept of God. I could say they are in search of God. I pray they come together on the one true Creator God who has created this life through evolution in millions of years.

One should believe in God very naturally as one believes in one’s parents- fathers and mothers.

Thanks

You Didn't Ask But.....

Americans seem to love the phrase “God of our fathers,” but how is that God defined?  If you listen to today’s religious conservatives you will most definitely get a version which they will swear by.  They will also quickly point out that the founders of our country were all God-fearing men.  That is an impossible position to defend because it mostly lacks for definition.

The founders of our country were, in the first place, English merchants who saw an opportunity in the New World at the Virginia plantation.  Their allegiance, such as it was, was to the Church of England.  But the colony the founded at Jamestown was far more interested in it commercial value than allying itself to any particular religion.  As was true in later settlements, these Englishmen did not first erect a church and then a community to surround it.

Next you have the “Pilgrims” who settled…

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Man could create God; if man could create his parents

February 7, 2010

http://forum.richarddawkins.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=106309&p=2705903#p2705903The day Man created god

Adco wrote:

I find the following hypothesis more plausible than most others I have come across.

When man acquired a consciousness and could therefore think things like where did we come from, and he came up with the concept that some god must have put us here, that is the time that god came into existence.

I propose therefore that Man created god

Paarsurrey wrote:

Hi friends

I don’t agree with adco; it is creating a myth, in my opinion.

If man could create his father and mother of whom he is so certain to be born; then he should think of creating god. One cannot create one’s father and mother and very naturally thinks them his parents; so the same way one should rationally and naturally believe in the Creator-God Allah YHWH. Has ever a man thought that he has been born without parents?

I don’t think so.

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

No “Good without God?”: Jesus neither god nor Son of god

October 29, 2009

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/2009/10/good_without_god/comments.html

Hi friends

It is no good without the Creator-God Allah YHWH. It is very unnatural not to believe in the Creator- God Allah YHWH. It is just like believing that one was born without one’s parents. One has not seen one’s father mating with one’s mother even then one believes that one has a father. One has not seen one’s mother giving one birth yet one is not in doubt of one’ mother; so one very naturally believes in one’s mother and father and is never in doubt.

One knows that one’s mother and father had taken pains in upbringing one; they did it with love in a very natural way. It is no good without the father and mother; and in the same way it is no good without the Creator-God Allah YHWH.

Through the parents the Creator-God Allah YHWH gives us a taste of His Grace, Mercy.

We got born of our parents; when we were nothing; if left unattended, unfed we would have not survived and died in our infancy, not even knowing that we were ever born. From infancy, we reached childhood, adulthood, old age; so it all evolved very naturally. It is against evolution and progression not believing in the Creator- God Allah YHWH.

All we see in the Universe is the Work of the Creator- God Allah YHWH. All our knowledge and sciences are based on knowing the laws of nature that the Creator has set in motion; without His Work, there would be no knowledge and no sciences.

It is his benevolence that He did not leave us alone and through the perfect men called Messengers Prophets he sent his Revelations so that we may know about his attributes and other things most essential for our ethical, moral and spiritual advancement; from the unseen realm. This is called the Word of the Creator- God Allah YHWH.

I think without the Work of God or without the Word of god; we will be worse off in our lives.

Is there a doubt in Allah the Creator of the heavens and earth? (Quran)
Jesus was however not a god or a Son of god.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Musli

Allah forgives all sins. Verily, He is Most forgiving, Ever Merciful

May 8, 2009

Ivarfjeld says:

How will we manage to escape from our sins?

Paarsurrey says:

The sins are forgiven by God Allah YHWH when a sinner repents over his mistakes, asks forgiveness from God Allah YHWH and resolves not to do it again; this is a natural process, observed in every family, the parents forgiving the wrong doing of their sons and daughters.

If God forgives the sins then it is as if no sins were committed altogether.

This is established from OTBible right from Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Jonah and John the Baptist. None amongst them said plainly that the forgiveness of sins would remain suspended till Jesus dies on the Cross. Not even Jesus said this things; it is only a weird and tricky theological philosophy of the cunning and sinful Paul that describes this new mythical creed of forgiveness of sins of the people depending on Jesus dieing a cursed death on Cross. It is only a revengeful creed, a cruel father cuts throat of his son, in the name of god, religion, love and justice. It has nothing to do with Jesus.

Quran also supports the concept of the Old Testament and confirms it:

[39:54] Say, ‘O My servants who have sinned against their souls, despair not of the mercy of Allah, surely, Allah forgives all sins. Verily, He is Most forgiving, Ever Merciful;
[39:55] ‘And turn to your Lord, and submit yourselves to Him, before there comes unto you the punishment; for then you shall not be helped;
[39:56] And follow the best Teaching that has been revealed to you from your Lord, before the punishment comes upon you suddenly, while you perceive not.’
[39:57] Lest a soul should say, ‘O woe is me in that I neglected my duty in respect of Allah! Surely, I was among the scoffers.’

http://www3.alislam.org/showChapter.jsp?submitCh=Read+from+verse%3A&ch=39&verse=49

I love Jesus, Mary and Muhammad.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim