Posts Tagged ‘pagans’

“Christian Right’s attack on rights”

February 28, 2010

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/eboo_patel/2010/02/religious_rights_for_christian.html

Hi friends

I agree with the following statement:

“Christianity was not at the founding, nor is it now a monolithic “ism” that justifies the domination and suppression of others–not even Wiccan/Pagans”

“Christianity” is a misnomer; it was not founded by Jesus who was Monotheist undoubtedly.”Christianity” was founded by Paul; and since then it did not remain Monotheist; it became a religion of Trinity.

Notwithstanding the above every religion has a right to present their case with reason, rationality and logical arguments to convince the human beings together by supporting with Revelation from the Creator- God Allah YHWH for fulfilling the Ethical, Moral and Spiritual needs of the man. Who wins I don’t mind. If the Atheists have anything useful in these faculties; they also have a right to serve humanity in these areas.

Christians are no exception.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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Trinity – a very loose hat on Jesus’ head

June 16, 2008

This is not a debate; it is a peaceful discussion between friends to understand one another’s view point. Others, are welcome to participate in it, to increase our understanding. Differing views will also be appreciated.

 

 

June 14, 2008 at 9:27 pm

paarsurrey

 

Hi Lee!

‘Clearly the whole world will see His coming”.
This is not physically possible. The Earth is round and if Jesus descends, as you say, in the West then people in the East cannot see his descent to happen. The sentence means , in my opinion, that everybody will undestand his coming. So the matter is metaphorical not a physical phenomenon.

 

Do you have a real photograph of Jesus? I don’t think you have one for sure with his real features. So, how would you recognize him ?

Jesus has to be recognized with reasonable arguments.

 

Thanks

 

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

 

June 14, 2008 at 9:52 pm

Lee

 

Those are the Words of Jesus Christ, Savior of the world to those who truly believe in Him and His Word. As the Son of God and part of the Trinity including God the Father, Jesus Christ His only begotten Son and the Holy Spirit, He cannot lie.

19 God is not a man, that he should lie,
nor a son of man, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?
[Numbers 23:19 NIV]

26Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” [Matthew 19:26 NIV]

I understand it is hard to believe these words literally; but, it’s no problem for me as I have faith in my God. He has proven not to be wrong yet!

I believe the Holy Bible is the infallible Word of Jehovah God. Do you believe in the Bible or the Qu’ran?

 

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June 15, 2008 at 4:08 am

paarsurrey

 

Hi

I believe in Quran and what Quran has confirmed from the NTBible.

Since Jesus left no written Word of GodAllahYHWH revealed on him, or authenticated by him when he last departed from Galilee and went into exile towards India; hence my CatholicsProtestants friends believe many creeds created by the Catholic Clergy not originated by Jesus himself in person.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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June 15, 2008 at 5:56 am

Lee

 

paarsurrey,

We do not have a common point of reference as I believe the Bible to be the infallible Word of Jehovah God. I do not believe the Qu’ran. The Bible and Qu’ran are opposed to one another as the Qu’ran denies the Trinity – one of the major tenets of the Christian faith — and refers to Jesus as merely a prophet.

Jesus IS God as part of the Trinity. Muhammad is not in the Bible. Allah is not in the Bible. The True Word of Jehovah God/YHWH is the Holy Bible; so, I do not believe in Allah or Muhammad. I’m sorry; but, until you can see that Jesus is the Messiah, the Savior of the world, the Real Truth. We cannot have a fruitful dialogue.

Jesus IS the Word of God made flesh (John 1:1-1

I pray your eyes will be opened to the Truth.

In Jesus Christ and Him only,
Lee

June 15, 2008 at 8:11 am

Kim

 

I agree with Lee. Also the Qu’ran states that those who believe that Jesus is part of the trinity are blasphemers.

In the NT the disciples were eyewitnesses to the fact that Jesus ascended into the heavens. So the contention that Jesus went to India is false. There is much documentation to the accuracy of the Bible, in fact it is the best documented manuscript of all time. In fact there is so much evidence available, that if one discards the Bible then one must discard all the literature of antiquity. Then on top of that is the archaeological evidence.

http://www.christiananswers.net/archaeology/home.html

 

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June 15, 2008 at 8:05 pm

paarsurrey

 

Lee said:
Jesus IS God as part of the Trinity
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Hi

I respect your faith.

I know that the CatholicsProtestants believe in Trinity; but that concept was imported from the pagans at Rome by Paul, and Jesus never mentioned it in so many words. Who could stop Jesus from mentioning it clearly? Nobody could stop him obviously. It is Paul who tried to put this too loose a hat on the head of Jesus, to obscure Jesus personality and his teachings in the absence of Jesus.

Perhaps Paul knew that Jesus was in exile towards India and due to poor communications Jesus won’t be able to refute Paul’s views with a tinge of hidden animosity towards Jesus.

Jesus had not died on the Cross, and hence all the philosophical theology of Paul based on Jesus’ cursed killing on Cross gets exposed and his continuous animosity towards Jesus becomes manifest.

I love Jesus and Mary.

Kindly think deeply dispense with Paul and to know the truthful teachings of Jesus. Jesus never proclaimed a god-head for himself. It just does not suit on him well.

This is not to confuse anybody; it is to make one’s faith stronger.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Trinity and divinity of Jesus ; I don’t believe

June 2, 2008

Hi

In my opinion, by believing in Trinity and divinity of Jesus one more follows the theology of Paul imported from pagans of Rome, rather than the pristine teachigs of Jesus, which are neither from the mouth of GodAllahYHWH nor from the mouth of JesusYeshuaIssa or from the mouth of Mary.

This was done by Paul, in my opinion, when Jesus was on his journey to India after the incident of crucifixion in which he was saved a cursed death on Cross, nevertheless denied by Paul. In Jesus absence Paul felt free to use his name as a cover to promote his own theological philosophy based on death on Cross; using far fetched obscure sentences hinting towards trinity and divinity of Jesus.

Maybe it is Paul’s differences and enmity with Jesus to start with; and the present Christians, a faithful sheep, are perhaps not to be blamed in this connection directly.

 

I love Jesus and Mary; and sorry not Paul.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim