Posts Tagged ‘natural human instincts’

Kama Sutra – Tripitaka

May 31, 2014

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3788237-post2.html

paarsurrey wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leftimies

Kama Sutra – Tripitaka.

“If one, longing for sensual pleasure, achieves it, yes, he’s enraptured at heart.
The mortal gets what he wants.

But if for that person — longing, desiring — the pleasures diminish,
he’s shattered, as if shot with an arrow. Whoever avoids sensual desires
— as he would, with his foot, the head of a snake — goes beyond, mindful,
this attachment in the world.

A man who is greedy for fields, land, gold, cattle, horses,
servants, employees, women, relatives, and many sensual pleasures,
is overpowered with weakness and trampled by trouble, for pain invades him as water,
a cracked boat. So one, always mindful, should avoid sensual desires.
Letting them go, he’d cross over the flood like one who,
having bailed out the boat, has reached the far shore.”

– Direct extract.

Quite different from the kama sutra introduced to the West, isn’t it? Give me your thoughts on this subject – whether it be comparison to the other kama sutra, your opinion on this one, or whatever. Do you agree with the claim, or do you vehemently disagree?

Please provide the wording of kama sutra that has been introduced to the West; for comparison.

Why the wording has been changed and who did it?

Regards

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3788343-post5.html

paarsurrey

The truthful religion informs us that all natural human instincts have to be harnessed for ethical, moral and spiritual progress and are to be tuned to the purpose of life fixed by the One-True-God.

Buddha narrated the Kama Sutra in the same connection.

Regards

Reason and Passion: in religion

February 6, 2014

Reason and Passion: in religion and government
http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/06/reason-and-passion-in-religion-and-government/

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/06/reason-and-passion-in-religion-and-government/#comment-123860

paarsurrey
02/06/2014 at 11:15 am

I think Sam Harris has not understood the true relationship between the human morals viz-a-viz natural human instincts; which has truly been explained in the book “Philosophy of Teachings of Islam”. Sam Harris should read the question and its answer given by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 in the above named book. I think he will get convinced and save the prize money also. Sorry for Jonathan Haidt, he may lose.

I give below a passage from the book:

“It is characteristic of the human self that it incites man to evil and is opposed to his attainment of perfection and to his moral state, and urges him towards undesirable and evil ways. Thus the propensity towards evil and intemperance is a human state which predominates over the mind of a person before he enters upon the moral state. This is man’s natural state, so long as he is not guided by reason and understanding but follows his natural bent in eating, drinking, sleeping, waking, anger and provocation, like the animals. When a person is guided by reason and understanding and brings his natural state under control and regulates it in a proper manner, then these three states, as described, cease to remain the categories as natural states, but are called moral states.” Unquote

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf

One may like to read answer to the “FIRST QUESTION- The Physical, Moral and Spiritual States of Man” from the above book; about twenty pages in all.