Posts Tagged ‘metaphorical’

Second Coming | The Promised Messiah will face trials, persecutions and aspersions

May 19, 2013
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad- the Promised Messiah and Imam Mahdi has illustrated in the book written by him titled “How to be Free from Sin” , a facsimile of page 8 of the book is provided here, one may read further by clicking the link <>.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad says:

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Trinity – a very loose hat on Jesus’ head

June 16, 2008

This is not a debate; it is a peaceful discussion between friends to understand one another’s view point. Others, are welcome to participate in it, to increase our understanding. Differing views will also be appreciated.



June 14, 2008 at 9:27 pm



Hi Lee!

‘Clearly the whole world will see His coming”.
This is not physically possible. The Earth is round and if Jesus descends, as you say, in the West then people in the East cannot see his descent to happen. The sentence means , in my opinion, that everybody will undestand his coming. So the matter is metaphorical not a physical phenomenon.


Do you have a real photograph of Jesus? I don’t think you have one for sure with his real features. So, how would you recognize him ?

Jesus has to be recognized with reasonable arguments.




I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim


June 14, 2008 at 9:52 pm



Those are the Words of Jesus Christ, Savior of the world to those who truly believe in Him and His Word. As the Son of God and part of the Trinity including God the Father, Jesus Christ His only begotten Son and the Holy Spirit, He cannot lie.

19 God is not a man, that he should lie,
nor a son of man, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?
[Numbers 23:19 NIV]

26Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” [Matthew 19:26 NIV]

I understand it is hard to believe these words literally; but, it’s no problem for me as I have faith in my God. He has proven not to be wrong yet!

I believe the Holy Bible is the infallible Word of Jehovah God. Do you believe in the Bible or the Qu’ran?



June 15, 2008 at 4:08 am




I believe in Quran and what Quran has confirmed from the NTBible.

Since Jesus left no written Word of GodAllahYHWH revealed on him, or authenticated by him when he last departed from Galilee and went into exile towards India; hence my CatholicsProtestants friends believe many creeds created by the Catholic Clergy not originated by Jesus himself in person.


I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim



June 15, 2008 at 5:56 am




We do not have a common point of reference as I believe the Bible to be the infallible Word of Jehovah God. I do not believe the Qu’ran. The Bible and Qu’ran are opposed to one another as the Qu’ran denies the Trinity – one of the major tenets of the Christian faith — and refers to Jesus as merely a prophet.

Jesus IS God as part of the Trinity. Muhammad is not in the Bible. Allah is not in the Bible. The True Word of Jehovah God/YHWH is the Holy Bible; so, I do not believe in Allah or Muhammad. I’m sorry; but, until you can see that Jesus is the Messiah, the Savior of the world, the Real Truth. We cannot have a fruitful dialogue.

Jesus IS the Word of God made flesh (John 1:1-1

I pray your eyes will be opened to the Truth.

In Jesus Christ and Him only,

June 15, 2008 at 8:11 am



I agree with Lee. Also the Qu’ran states that those who believe that Jesus is part of the trinity are blasphemers.

In the NT the disciples were eyewitnesses to the fact that Jesus ascended into the heavens. So the contention that Jesus went to India is false. There is much documentation to the accuracy of the Bible, in fact it is the best documented manuscript of all time. In fact there is so much evidence available, that if one discards the Bible then one must discard all the literature of antiquity. Then on top of that is the archaeological evidence.




June 15, 2008 at 8:05 pm



Lee said:
Jesus IS God as part of the Trinity


I respect your faith.

I know that the CatholicsProtestants believe in Trinity; but that concept was imported from the pagans at Rome by Paul, and Jesus never mentioned it in so many words. Who could stop Jesus from mentioning it clearly? Nobody could stop him obviously. It is Paul who tried to put this too loose a hat on the head of Jesus, to obscure Jesus personality and his teachings in the absence of Jesus.

Perhaps Paul knew that Jesus was in exile towards India and due to poor communications Jesus won’t be able to refute Paul’s views with a tinge of hidden animosity towards Jesus.

Jesus had not died on the Cross, and hence all the philosophical theology of Paul based on Jesus’ cursed killing on Cross gets exposed and his continuous animosity towards Jesus becomes manifest.

I love Jesus and Mary.

Kindly think deeply dispense with Paul and to know the truthful teachings of Jesus. Jesus never proclaimed a god-head for himself. It just does not suit on him well.

This is not to confuse anybody; it is to make one’s faith stronger.


I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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