Posts Tagged ‘message’

Language and Religion

February 4, 2014

I have written a comment on the “Triangulations” blog at the topic
“Language & Religion as Decorations”:

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/language-religion-as-decorations/

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/language-religion-as-decorations/#comment-123773

My comments are given below;

paarsurrey
02/04/2014 at 10:46 am

@ Sabio Lantz

I don’t get you exactly. Please elaborate.

Arabic is not my mother tongue; yet when Quran is recited in Arabic by a good Qari (a correct reciter); it spell bounds one.

Yet this is one quality of Quran; its real miracle is in its meanings, its message and its appeal to reason where reason could lead one to, reasonably.

http://triangulations.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/language-religion-as-decorations/#comment-123773

All revealed religions in the origin are truthful

December 17, 2013

All revealed religions in the origin are truthful
I started a thread in one of my favorite discussion forum :
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/118741#post2509441

My following post may be read in this connection:

1.
paarsurrey posted :
All revealed religions in the origin are truthful
2. paarsurrey posted :

Like the religion revealed to Moses; he never intended to propound a religion till he was addressed by the One-True-God Allah Yahweh with a clear message thus:

[20:13] ‘Verily, I am thy Lord. So take off thy shoes; for thou art in the sacred Valley of Tuwa. [20:13] ‘Verily, I am thy Lord. So take off thy shoes; for thou art in the sacred Valley of Tuwa.
[20:14] ‘And I have chosen thee; so hearken to what is revealed
[20:15] ‘Verily, I am Allah; there is no God beside Me. So serve Me, and observe Prayer for My remembrance.
[20:16] ‘Surely, the Hour is coming; I am going to manifest it, that every soul may be recompensed for its endeavour.
[20:17] ‘So let not him who believes not therein and follows his own evil inclinations, turn thee away therefrom, lest thou perish.

https://alislam.org/quran/search2/showC … mp;verse=8

3. Mathew James wrote:

The format, of the major religions, is similar in structure, but they have divided them self with semantics and the need to be correct. In religious thought there is basically a top spot that has a Creator and then there is a level of spiritually that a person needs to grow through to find peace with the Creator. A person believes in a Creator (Believer) or they do not believe in a Creator (a Non-Believer). The divisions created by the need to be correct is what hurts the Believers from seeing their common ground and leads many people to being Non-Believers

paarsurrey wrote@ Mathew James :

I agree with you.

The format of all revealed religion is almost the same; when the original message in the original language revealed on the founder of a revealed religion is lost or becomes diluted in the debris of time the differences are made.

4. psycheskinner wrote:

Various sects and religions directly contradict each other. Thus they can’t all be right. For example some say Jesus is the son of God and some say he is not.

paarsurrey posted
That only reflects that the original message has been corrupted or forgotten. It also may reflect that there is no compulsion in religion.
5. wilderness wrote:

As no two are the same that would mean that 10,000 messages were corrupted while exactly one was not. Hard to believe…

Of course there is compulsion in religion: “Do what I say or burn forever” is pretty strong.


paarsurrey wrote:

If one sees an old building right now in shambles and one believes that once it was a in good condition and might have been a marvelous building; nobody would say one is wrong.

6. Kathryn L Hill wrote:
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/118741?page=2

[20:17] ‘So let not him who believes not therein and follows his own evil inclinations, turn thee away therefrom, lest thou perish.

– what is the nature of “perishing?”

Paarsurrey wrote:
Not fulfilling the purpose of life.

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/118741?page=2

7. psycheskinner wrote:

Various sects and religions directly contradict each other. Thus they can’t all be right. For example some say Jesus is the son of God and some say he is not.

Paarsurrey wrote:
Jesus being a god or son of god is not the core teaching of Jesus or Moses.

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/118741?page=2

8. paarsurrey wrote:
Like the religion revealed to Moses; he never intended to propound a religion till he was addressed by the One-True-God Allah Yahweh with a clear message thus:

[20:13] ‘Verily, I am thy Lord. So take off thy shoes; for thou art in the sacred Valley of Tuwa. [20:13] ‘Verily, I am thy Lord. So take off thy shoes; for thou art in the sacred Valley of Tuwa.
[20:14] ‘And I have chosen thee; so hearken to what is revealed
[20:15] ‘Verily, I am Allah; there is no God beside Me. So serve Me, and observe Prayer for My remembrance.
[20:16] ‘Surely, the Hour is coming; I am going to manifest it, that every soul may be recompensed for its endeavour.
[20:17] ‘So let not him who believes not therein and follows his own evil inclinations, turn thee away therefrom, lest thou perish.

https://alislam.org/quran/search2/showC … mp;verse=8

Cgenea posted :

It sounds a lot like the bible to me. I hope that is not totally disrespectful. I’m just saying…

Buddha had no characteristics of atheism in him

June 16, 2013

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Buddha got enlightenment, self awakening or transcendental knowledge which is nothing else than the Word of Revelation or Message from the one true God; and thereafter Buddha preached the message and when he was nearing death; he told his followers to continue preaching the message with forbearance and patience.

I think only that person can preach who is not in doubt; with certainty one could preach.
I don’t think preaching is a characteristic of atheism.

For Buddha’s fervor with preaching please view Gospel of Buddha Chapter 47 titled “The Preacher’s Mission” Verses 1-11 Pages 127-128 by accessing the following link:

http://www.mountainman.com.au/buddha/carus_47.htm

Quran’s real charm is its profound system of meaning conveyed in its message

May 9, 2013

I give here  posts written by me for my favourite discussion forum on the thread <Is Islam a universal religion>: http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/religious-debates/147598-islam-universal-religion-13.html

#127

Quran does not mention it; that could be only opinions of those who claim it.

It is true that Quran if read in the Arabic language a little loudly in a manner that it does not disturb others has its own spell-bound charm; that cannot be denied.

Nevertheless; its real charm is its profound system of meaning conveyed in its message; one could benefit from, in any language.

I have personal experience of this; people borrow questions from unfriendly websites; but when referred to Quran, for the text and context, the questions become irrelevant.

One may just try it.

The focus of praying in Arabic is for preservation of the text; along-with the Arabic one could silently make a translation in one’s own language, it is not forbidden.

It is emphasized that one should also pray in one’s own mother-tongue for personal prays (supplications) in sajda (Prostration) or ruku (bowing down following the recitation of the Quran in the standing position while praying); that is most appreciated. The stress is that one’s spirit should move along the body.

For the “holy language” or that other languages are “unholy”; citation from Quran may please be given.

I may add here that all translations, in fact, are commentaries as one could translate only to the extent one understands; if one does not understand fully one’s translation would be defective to that extent.

#130 Translations of Quran are not the real word of God; that is factual and reasonable; that does not mean that Quran should not be translated for understanding it.

Paarsurrey says:

One may like to comment there in the forum or here in this blog, my pleasure.

This is how the pendulum of time worked | Belief in one true God

May 8, 2013

I give here a post written by me for my favourite discussion forum on the thread:

71 The Buddha Was NOT Silent On God and Metaphysics

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/general-religious-debates/101720-buddha-not-silent-god-metaphysics-8.html#post3320311

“We say that belief in one true God is the original belief; when people got excessively engaged in worldliness they forgot the message from the one true God; they started believing in many deities or they denied the one true God. This is how the pendulum of time worked.”

 

Another post in the same thread from me.

#79

“Since Buddha did not write down anything for us or he did not dictate anything the correctness of which he could have checked and authenticated himself; so I should not be asked, justifiably, to quote anything from him as his words.

Everything which has reached us is only  a guesswork.

One should understand that Buddha was dejected as his followers in his own time got divided in two factions; and he had to leave their company till the matter was somewhat resolved under his direct supervision, as is stated. What could have happened when he died could be guessed from that incident?

My concern is Buddha; not the Buddhists or Buddhism, please.”

Paarsurrey says:

One may like to comment there in the forum or here in this blog, my pleasure.