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Can science define and measure real value and worth of a piece of art or an item of poetry?

April 24, 2014

I started a discussion on my favorite religious education discussion forum on the topic “Does science support Atheism, positively?”.

The viewers could read/join the discussion at the forum accessing the link given below or they may comment at this blog Paarsurrey; and then after due deliberation form their own sincere opinion independently.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/science-religion/162023-does-science-support-atheism-positively-9.html#post3735456

paarsurrey wrote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by FunctionalAthiest
We cannot sense anything beyond the natural, so saying we can know nothing that does not present itself to the senses, directly or indirectly, eliminates anything beyond the natural. If i can see it, hear it, taste it, smell it, or touch it, then it is natural. Not because I define it that way, but because we know how senses work. If i see it it is composed of light, which is electromagnetism. Hear it and it is energy in the form of a sound wave. Etc.

This is precisely why acceptance of science is a denial of super-nature. While science does not address the supernatural and cannot prove it does not exist, it is because super-nature is non-sensible.

If super-nature, being non-sensible, left so much as a fingerprint on nature, science would falter.

A piece of art or an item of poetry.

Can science define and measure its real value and worth? Please

Vedas | Quran

May 22, 2013

I have written following posts on my favourite discussion forum; the topic is The Vedas and the Qur’an – Uncreated” < http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/comparative-religion/148225-vedas-quran-uncreated.html>; one could view the same and comment there or in this blog “ Paarsurrey”, my pleasure.

Paarsurrey says:

#2 We Muslims don’t believe that everything written in the Vedas is in the pristine original form; though Truth could be found in the Vedas and other Word revealed before Quran. We don’t reject them.

#5 Please elaborate as to what do you mean by this. Vedas existed before man existed or before man was able to speak?

#6 Yes knowledge is an attribute of the one true God; hence it is eternal with Him. All attributes of the one true God are eternal and not separable from Him.

But I don’t agree that Vedas are eternal; the knowledge of the one true God is with Him he reveals through the perfect men of a time only that is required by the human beings for guidance in ethical, moral and spiritual realms.

[15:22] And there is not a thing but with Us are the treasures thereof and We send it not down except in a known measure.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=15&verse=21

Those who believe in Vedas; should tell the time , place and the man on whom a particular Veda was revealed. Now we are not talking in terms of abstractions but in concrete terms; please.

#9 In fact I had already answered the question in post #6 above, and I again mention the reply from Quran:

[15:22] And there is not a thing but with Us are the treasures thereof and We send it not down except in a known measure.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=15&verse=21

 #12     There are two distinct phenomena.
1. The knowledge of the one true God; he is All-Knowing and none can know better than him as he has created everything in the universe and beyond it; that knowledge is absolute and it is not possible for the humans to know that; our brains don’t have the capacity to know that all. Quran mention it:

[18:110] Say, ‘If the ocean became ink for the words of my Lord, surely, the ocean would be exhausted before the words of my Lord came to an end, even though We brought the like thereof as further help.’
[18:111] Say, ‘I am only a man like yourselves; but I have received the revelation that your God is only One God. So let him who hopes to meet his Lord do good deeds, and let him join no one in the worship of his Lord.’

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=18&verse=109

Like knowledge, wisdom is also an attribute of Him; the All-Wise one true God therefore reveals on His prophets messengers only to the extent which is appropriate for that time; it is wisdom not withholding of any knowledge. The verse already quoted by me in this connection may please be referred <[15:22] And there is not a thing but with Us are the treasures thereof and We send it not down except in a known measure.>.

Thanks

I appreciate Sanatana Dharma  

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad- the end time reformer/Krishna for Hindus says:

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library.books.Barahin-e-Ahmadiyya-Parts1-2_130

http://www.alislam.org/library/browse/volume/Ruhani_Khazain/book/Braheen_e_Ahmadiyya/#page/101/mode/1up

library.books.Barahin-e-Ahmadiyya-Parts1-2_131

http://www.alislam.org/library/browse/volume/Ruhani_Khazain/book/Braheen_e_Ahmadiyya/#page/102/mode/1up

 

 


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