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Hot debate : “Where are the remains of Jesus of Nazareth?”

September 26, 2015

Post #234

Paarsurrey wrote:

Still another clue for Jesus’ remains:
THE JESUS THANGKA
A thangka (pronounced with the h silent) is the traditional form of religious painting produced by Buddhist monks for centuries in the Himalayas.

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Note the scars in hands of Jesus
Courtesy
Abhijith’s Knols
https://abhijithmarathakam.wordpress.com/article/jesus-in-india-fact-or-flaw-33u5226e1zr9g-8/

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HOT DEBATE: “Where are the remains of Jesus of Nazareth?”

September 23, 2015

Post #198

Further to post #196 above. Jesus’ remains would be found where he journeyed to.
“Jesus’ Deliverance from the Cross & Journey to INDIA”

“I have written this knol so that by adducing proofs from
established facts, conclusive historical evidence of proven
value, and ancient documents of other nations, I might
dispel the serious misconceptions which are current among
Christians and most Muslim sects regarding the earlier and
the later life of Jesus.

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Christians and most Muslims believe that Jesus was
raised to the heavens alive; both have believed for a long
time that Jesus is still alive in the heavens and will return to
the earth sometime in the latter days.”
Citation
marathakam abhijith. Jesus in India….FACT OR FLAW!!: THE FIRST SIDE….. [Internet]. Version 1. Abhijith’s Knols. 2010 Jun 28. Available from:https://abhijithmarathakam.wordpress.com/article/jesus-in-india-fact-or-flaw-33u5226e1zr9g-8/.
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Tracing descendants of Jesus

September 23, 2015

The Descendants of Jesus: Tracing the Family of Christ Through the Ages 

Professor Hugh Montgomery has spent decades researching the bloodlines of Europe and Outremer. His controversial conclusions fly in the face of the accepted orthodoxy. Jesus married Mary Magdalene…

Now, as in the time of Jesus, the Jewish people wrote about the times and events around them.  Jesus was a Rabbi and by Jewish Law he must have been married and a father.  Celibacy, in the ways of Christian tradition, was considered unnatural to Jewish tradition.  A grown man who was unmarried & celibate would have been mentioned extensively in chronicles were this the actual case — the Romans didn’t destroy everything, so, where is this “unnatural behaviour” mentioned in extant records of those times? Celibacy does not equal purity — that is Pauline thought.  In the bounds of marriage, intimacy has no sin.  And if God incarnated in human form to experience a human life, how on earth would such an important part of life be left inexperienced? Rather or not Jesus married & had children should not shake faith.  It changes nothing of who he was and what he did, ultimately.  This is where faith steps in and is that not what it’s all about?
+@Rain Wolf I agree with you that Jesus got married and had children. There are many claimants as physical descendants of Jesus, in France, in KPK province of Pakistan and in Kashmir, their claims should not be ignored and must be searched into. DNA of such persons should be matched and the relics or remains of Jesus and Mary must be carbon-dated to find the truth. Regards

“Where are the remains of Jesus of Nazareth?”

September 23, 2015

Post #196

Further to post #183 in the thread.
Paarsurrey wrote:
There are people who claim to be physical descendants of Jesus, their claim should be paid due attention to by the researchers, like Olsson of France, the 59th descendant of Jesus and seeking DNA testing of the shrine’s remains. It is a challenge to the lovers of Jesus.
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Roza Bal shrine
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Roza+Bal+Jesus

“That Jesus survived crucifixion, travelled to Kashmir, eventually died there and is buried in Srinagar is an urban legend which has found many takers over the years. Every season hundreds of tourists visit the Rozabal shrine of Sufi saint Yuz Asaf in downtown Srinagar, believed by many to be the final resting place of Christ.”

“Olsson arrived in Srinagar, claiming to be Christ’s ’59th descendant’ and seeking DNA testing of the shrine’s remains.
In a series of letters to the shrine’s caretakers , Olsson said she considers Rozabal a “private family tomb” . She further wrote: “My family has it (sic) origins in France, where Jesus and his wife Mary Magdalene lived for 30 years after the crucifixion. There they had two sons and one daughter. We’re descendants of the son. And if you wish to know more, I refer you to a book called Bloodline of the Holy Grail by Sir Lawrence Gardner.” Olsson went on to add that she was considering moving court to press her claim and secure the right to exhume the tomb. “We feel any claims you make about the sanctity of the grave are invalid … we would prefer to move our grandfather (out of Srinagar).”
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/…us-buried-in-Srinagar/articleshow/5906304.cms
It is a strong clue. Empty tomb did not tell that Jesus ascended to sky. It is a wrong notion.
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Where are the remains of Jesus of Nazareth?

September 23, 2015

Post #183

Paarsurrey wrote:

1. Jesus the ManBarbara Thieringsuggested that Jesus andJudas Iscariothad been crucified together but Jesus survived, marriedMary Magdalene, traveled around theMediterranean areaand then died in Rome.[10][56]

2. In 1995 Kenneth Hosking also suggested that Jesus survived crucifixion, but stated that Jesus was theTeacher of Righteousnessmentioned in theDead Sea Scrollsand decades later (73-74 AD) died as the leader of the Jewish forces which unsuccessfully fought the Romans during theSiege of Masada.[10][57]

3. According to theBook of Mormon, Jesus visited theAmerican nativesafter his resurrection

4. In 1996 the documentaryMysteries of the Bible presented an overview of the theories related to the travels of Jesus to India and interviewed a number of scholars on the subject.

5. Following places are mentioned wheretomb/grave of Jesus is said to be locatedor where it is believed thatJesuswasentombed.

a. Places that have been proposed as the location of such a tomb include:

    1. Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem
    2. Garden Tomb, discovered in the 19th century outside the old city of Jerusalem
    3. Talpiot Tomb, rock-cut tomb in the East Talpiot neighborhood, five kilometers south of the Old City in East Jerusalem
    4. Roza Balthe reputed tomb of Jesus in Kashmir
    5. Shingō, Japan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_Jesus

6. WAS THE BODY OF CHRIST LAID TO REST IN SOUTHERN FRANCE?

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Image on a Reliquary kept in la Sainte-Baume (South of France). The boat carrying Mary Magdelene into Southern France is also carrying a mummified body facing Mary mother of Jesus

It is a point of investigation, carbon dating, DNA matching for all the claimants to find out the remains of Jesus.

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Jesus in India

June 9, 2013

Jesus did not die on the Cross; though he was put on the Cross yet he was delivered in near-dead condition from the Cross. He was treated for his injuries in the tomb of Joseph of Armethia. When he got recovered, he secretly left Jerusalem and along with his mother Mary; he traveled to India where lost tribes of Israel resided. He died a natural and peaceful death at the ripe age of 120 years. He is buried at Mohallah Khanyar, Srinagar, India.

His remains must be in that tomb.

The Kashmir Tomb

The burial place of Jesus in Kashmir is known to the locals as Rauzabal, meaning the Honored Tomb.

It is known as the tomb of Yuz Asaf, which may be of Buddhist derivation (see link) or possibly from Yusu or Yehoshua (Jesus) the Gatherer.

Local tradition states that the entombed was a prophet of Ahle-Kitab, or People of the Book, and his name was Isa – the Quranic name for Jesus.

The prophet Yuz Asaf came to Kashmir from the West (Holy Land) in the reign of Raja Gopdatta (c 1st century A.D) according to the ancient official documents held by the current custodian of the tomb.

Some of the most extensive research on the tomb has been conducted by the now retired famous historian and former Head of Archaelogy for State of Kashmir, Professor Fida Hassnain.

The tomb is Jewish, as attested by the direction the grave is lying. Next to the grave is a footprint engraved in stone, an artistic rendition of the wounds of crucifixion.

One could see following documentaries in this connection:

BBC Documentary

 

 

 

Will Jesus’ remains ever be found?

May 22, 2013

Naturally Jesus remains will be found where Jesus was buried after his natural death.

Jesus did not die on the Cross; though he was put on the Cross yet he was delivered in near-dead condition from the Cross. He was treated for his injuries in the tomb of Joseph of Armethia. When he got recovered, he secretly left Jerusalem and along with his mother Mary; he travelled to India where lost tribes of Israel resided. He died a natural and peaceful death at the ripe age of 120 years. He is buried at Mohallah Khanyar, Srinagar, India.

His remains must be in that tomb.

The Kashmir Tomb

The burial place of Jesus in Kashmir is known to the locals as Rauzabal, meaning the Honored Tomb.

It is known as the tomb of Yuz Asaf, which may be of Buddhist derivation (see link) or possibly from Yusu or Yehoshua (Jesus) the Gatherer.

Local tradition states that the entombed was a prophet of Ahle-Kitab, or People of the Book, and his name was Isa – the Quranic name for Jesus.

The prophet Yuz Asaf came to Kashmir from the West (Holy Land) in the reign of Raja Gopdatta (c 1st century A.D) according to the ancient official documents held by the current custodian of the tomb.

Some of the most extensive research on the tomb has been conducted by the now retired famous historian and former Head of Archaelogy for State of Kashmir, Professor Fida Hassnain.

The tomb is Jewish, as attested by the direction the grave is lying. Next to the grave is a footprint engraved in stone, an artistic rendition of the wounds of crucifixion.

One could see following documentaries in this connection:

BBC Documentary

Indian Govt. Documentary