Posts Tagged ‘Jesus migrated to India’

“The locked tomb mystery” solved: Made easy to understand

February 14, 2014

My comments on blog “Leading Malaysian Neocon”: topic “The Locked Tomb Mystery – Whodunit?”;Link :

http://scottthong.wordpress.com/
http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/01/17/the-locked-tomb-mystery-whodunit/#comment-521090

paarsurrey Says:
February 14, 14 at 8:06 am

@Scott Thong Said on February 13, 14 at 11:45 am; paarsurrey responded:

I am not advertising or selling anything; the book is available (free) on line; I provided the link.
You are welcome to make a research and then form your opinion.

Why delay reading the book?

If Jesus did not die on the Cross and died in India; then in the words of Paul , Christian belief is in vain:

1 Corinthians 15:12-19
New International Version (NIV)
The Resurrection of the Dead

12 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 15 More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+15:12-19

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Jesus never in fact claimed any deity in literal terms

January 24, 2010

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/punishment-for-claimants-of-divinity-in-jews-from-moses/#comment-891

Hi friend sch

I thank you for sending me an ocean of words , not on the topic , yet not quoting in your reply as I have asked you any verses from the OTBible or Torah where punishment for the claimant of divinity has been mentioned for Jews by Moses.

You may quote it now, if you like; there is however no compulsion.
So Jesus was a claimant of the office of a Prophet Messenger of the Creator -God Allah YHWH; and Jews tried to punish him as a false Prophet Messenger as mentioned in Deuteronomy 13 and Leviticus 24.
There is no punishment in Torah for a claimant of Divinity; so this was not a charge against Jesus by the Jews; Jesus never in fact claimed any deity in literal terms.

Jesus survived death on the Cross and later he migrated to India; and thus Jews failed in their designs and Jesus was proved a truthful Prophet of the Creator- God Allah YHWH.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

If Jesus could be tried by the devil for forty days; Joseph Smith could taste a bit of it or more; please don’t mind

June 11, 2009

Hi friend markparker1

Sorry I don’t agree with you; we can only accept Joseph Smith, if he would have been appointed by God Allah YHWH; his First Vision, all narrations, make it very clear to me that he was never in converse with God Allah YHWH and he was definitely not appointed by God Allah YHWH. He did not meet genuinely with Jesus even; it was only his wishful thinking that he met Jesus.

The questions he asked refelect his narrow approach towards faiths and religions; he asked only of the Churches. Joseph Smith did not know things of the past even, what to speak of the future. He did not know that Jesus escaped death on the Cross, he never got alive from the dead, he never ascended to heaven, rather Jesus migrated to India, and he died naturally and peacefuly at the age of about 120 years in India. Joseph Smith did not know all these things, so his meeting with Jesus was not real.

Joseph Smith mentioned features of Jesus as if he was a young man from Europe, with blue eyes and that; which is commonly held by the people in the West. Jesus was from the Jews of Jerusalem, who have different features. So, he was overwhelmed with the common thoughts of the Christians and inundated by his own thoughts; which might have appeared to him as if real; which was not real, only a reflection of his own self.

If Jesus could be tried by the devil for forty days; Joseph Smith could taste a bit of it or more; please don’t mind. Josepsh Smith admits that he was a sinful person; not like that of Messengers Prophets who were always innocent people, chosen by God Allah YHWH.

Joseph Smith was destined to die like Paul in terms of Deuteronmy; and he was killed by the people.

I respect your faith; yet I have to mention what I believe sincerely.

I love Messengers and Prophets as described in Quran.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

The Messengers Prophets are always appointed by God Allah YHWH; a sole discretion of Him; not of Jesus

June 5, 2009

Randall says:

Just to put it out there, Joseph Smith was visited by God the Father and Jesus Christ, and as far as I know, God the Father and Allah are the same being.

Paarsurrey says:

Welcome to visit paarsurrey – a blog for interfaith peaceful discussions.

I would like you to first read my following latest post on Paul and Joseph Smith:

Paul and Joseph Smith claimed they were Messengers/Prophets/Epistles/Apostels of Jesus; so strictly speaking they never legitimately claimed to be Messengers/Prophets/Epistles/Apostels of God Allah YHWH

I would humbly submit the following points in this connection:

1. The Messengers Prophets are always appointed by God Allah YHWH; a sole discretion of Him; Jesus though one of the truthful Messengers Prophets of God like unto Jonah, yet he or anybody else could not and cannot appoint anyone as a Messenger Prophet of God Allah YHWH on behalf of God Allah YHWH. This appointement simply does not fall under the discretion of Jesus. I understand that the cunning Paul and Joseph Smith claimed they were Messengers/Prophets/Epistles/Apostels of Jesus; so strictly speaking they never legitimately claimed to be Messengers/Prophets/Epistles/Apostels of God Allah YHWH in the first place.

2. Jesus did not die a cursed death on Cross; he survived against all odds. Jesus migrated to India, after getting cured from the injuries inflicted on the Cross; he is said to have died at the age of 120/125 years, a very natural and respectful death there. Paul claimed in the absence of Jesus when he was in India; so Paul’s claim was not truthful and hence he suffered the destiny as described in Deuteronomy very clearly.

3. Jesus was appointed by God Allah YHWH as Messenger Prophet, hence, he survived a cursed death on Cross; that proves that he was a truthful Messenger Prophets of God Allah YHWH. Joseph Smith was ignorant of all these things; so I think he did not legitimately claimed to be a Messenger Prophet of God Allah YHWH; further he suffered the same fate; he was killed as clearly defined in Deuteronomy. He was ignorant about what happened to Jesus and Paul. Sorry; I cannot accept him as a legitimate claimant.

4. I do not intend to start any bashing of Paul or Joseph Smith; they did whatever they liked to do and I don’t hate them; yet I have to believe things in a straighforward manner; so this is what I bleive very sincerely; a statement of faith of me. Please don’t mind.

Randal my friend!Please keep on visiting and favoring with your valuable comments. Please feel free to express yourself fully here.

I admire the Mormons Christians for their charitable and polite discussions.

You are a nice friend.

I love Jesus and Mary as beautifully and truthfully described in Quran.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Paul and Joseph Smith claimed they were Messengers/Prophets/Epistles/Apostels of Jesus; so strictly speaking they never legitimately claimed to be Messengers/Prophets/Epistles/Apostels of God Allah YHWH

June 4, 2009

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend markparker1

I would humbly submit the following points again:

1. The Messengers Prophets are always appointed by God Allah YHWH; a sole discretion of Him; Jesus though one of the truthful Messengers Prophets of God like unto Jonah, yet he or anybody else could not and cannot appoint anyone as a Messenger Prophet of God Allah YHWH on behalf of God Allah YHWH. This appointement simply does not fall under the discretion of Jesus. I understand that the cunning Paul and Joseph Smith claimed they were Messengers/Prophets/Epistles/Apostels of Jesus; so strictly speaking they never legitimately claimed to be Messengers/Prophets/Epistles/Apostels of God Allah YHWH in the first place.

2. Jesus did not die a cursed death on Cross; he survived against all odds. Jesus migrated to India, after getting cured from the injuries inflicted on the Cross; he is said to have died at the age of 120/125 years, a very natural and respectful death there. Paul claimed in the absence of Jesus when he was in India; so Paul’s claim was not truthful and hence he suffered the destiny as described in Deuteronomy very clearly.

3. Jesus was appointed by God Allah YHWH as Messenger Prophet, hence, he survived a cursed death on Cross; that proves that he was a truthful Messenger Prophets of God Allah YHWH. Joseph Smith was ignorant of all these things; so I think he did not legitimately claimed to be a Messenger Prophet of God Allah YHWH; further he suffered the same fate; he was killed as clearly defined in Deuteronomy. He was ignorant about what happened to Jesus and Paul. Sorry; I cannot accept him as a legitimate claimant.

4. I do not intend to start any bashing of Paul or Joseph Smith; they did whatever they liked to do and I don’t hate them; yet I have to believe things in a straighforward manner; so this is what I bleive very sincerely; a statement of faith of me. Please don’t mind.

You are a nice friend.

I love Jesus and Mary as beautifully and truthfully described in Quran.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Note:

The above is my response to comments of Markparker1 , which could be accessed and read at:

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/paul-and-joseph-smith-were-not-truthful-messengers-propohets-of-god-allah-yhwh-they-met-the-same-fate-god-so-arranged-that-they-were-killed/#comments