Posts Tagged ‘Iqan’

Bahaullah’s claim of god-head?!

May 9, 2019

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#142 paarsurrey

This could be one’s personal view/belief, one must have made this view because ofambiguous writings* of Bahaullah, and he was a master/clever of ambiguity. Himself believing in nothing of his many ambiguous claims Bahaullah made others to believe them.

In the above quote the words “He” and “Who” have been capitalized for giving Bahaullah a special (supernatural )status (by the translator, maybe, Shoghi Effendi) above a normal human being. Not even a Pauline-Pagan-Christian would have created such ambiguity in normal writing about Jesus.

I quote here a post #110 InvxxxxxxSep 29, 2018 of one Bahai friend here:

@Invxxxxxx I disagree with saying that Baha’is make no distinction between God, and Baha’u’llah. I know some Baha’is who do, and some who don’t.”

Invxxxxxxxxxx said:

I didn’t mean any one who has a Bahai membership. I meant a perfect Baha’i, like Abdulbaha would not make any distinction between Bahaullah and God. Do you think Abdulbaha made any distinction between God and Bahaullah? Did not Abdulbaha believe who ever has seen Bahaullah, has seen God?

Bahaullah – Prophet or God?
Bahaullah – Prophet or God? The Bahai Awareness Homepage

#146  paarsurrey

Does one mean that our friend @Invxxxxxxx is not a Bahai? Or he attributed god-head about Bahaullah wrongly (post #110).
And then why this trickery (of Capitalization or De-Capitalization) done by Shoghi Effendi in Iqan* against the norms of English language.

*Kitab-i-Iqan which is my focus as I read it.


From”Kitab-i-Iqan” one finds that Bahaullah mostly was beating about the bush

May 2, 2019

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#80 paarsurrey

“Nice” does not mean not to tell the truth. If the Bahaullah people are used to conceal the truth, then others must expose them. Right, please?


“beating about the bush”

#81 paarsurrey

While I read “Kitab-i-Iqan”, I find that Bahaullah mostly was beating about the bush, and either he himself did not know the truth or he did not tell the truth purposely. If he was doing it,why should not his follower follow him? Right, please?


#85 paarsurrey

Aren’t they already, sort of?


“Biased or unreliable information is still useful”

#86 paarsurrey

Yes, that is what I meant in the post. One gets to know the clues to research and for finding truth. Right, please?



Was Bahaullah a “Bahai”, please? (3)

April 22, 2019

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#6 paarsurrey

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What did Bahaullah say about himself, please, pertinently in Iqan?
It is a simple question, he must not have forgotten to mention it in Iqan, or his human limitations like forgetfulness restrained him; and he was not a God for sure.


Did Bahaullah claim that Iqan is Revelation from God?

April 14, 2019

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Post #17paarsurrey wrote:

I have not yet inquired about when did Bahaullah claim/declare about his stations as ascribed to him by the Bahaism people. They have a right to believe or not to believe anything about anybody with or without any arguments, I have no objection to that.

I repeat my humble submission again:

My interest is only in Bahaullah , his claims and the arguments given by him in support of his claims.

I am reading Kitab-e-Iqan by Bahaullah and it occurred to me that Bahaullah does not say in it in clear and unequivocal terms about the things written in this book that these has been revealed on/to him by/from G-d. Right, please?
I will appreciate if somebody gives quotes from Iqan, if I am wrong.



Post #33 paarsurrey wrote:

I asked a simple question and our friend (a Bahai) has given a simple answer confirming “Bahaullah did NOT say in clear terms that, the Book of Iqan is a revelation from God.”

I don’t know as to why other friend could not confirm it.
They may please note it, and if they like it there is no harm in confirming it. Right, please?
No compulsion though.