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Paarsurrey wrote:The above is true about Paul’s Christianity.
It has nothing to do with Jesus who never believed these tenets.
It is Ok that the Atheists find meaning in life as do of course the Theists; though the Atheists are very late in this realization.
Can the Atheists mention the sum total of their achievements for betterment of humanity in the world at large since the inceptions of time?
2. Living by the means of man helping man, and realizing time on earth is not a practice run, creates an urgency of life that requires fulfilling.
The first thing that occurs to me, in reading this, is to wonder if Smalley realizes that this doesn’t remotely make atheism true. I don’t think he’d really argue that something is true just because it makes us feel a sense of urgency. But, if not, why does he list it as a reason to be an atheist?
Perhaps he simply means that it is something that makes him feel better about being an atheist. If so, he’s allowed it, but I don’t see why anyone should be persuaded by this.
But, moving on to my second point: It’s simply not true that only atheists have a sense of…
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There is a grand purpose of life that many don’t understand and they think that they have understood the purpose of their existence and are in fact already working for it; while they are only spending their time to earn a living.
There are some people who believe that their time on earth is all they have, and they have nothing beyond this life so they usually make a great effort to make the most of it engaged in sensual pursuits if they have some wealth; and if they don’t have any, they could attempt at a suicide.
This kind of purpose is only a carrier oriented concept and it is personal; I am not here to object to it.
Humans do have desires and they feel happy when a desire is attained.
I think it is a goal or target that one fixes for one’s business or for one’s career that is generally being thought of as a purpose of one’s existence which is quite different from the purpose of man’s life.
To say that our purpose in life is simply to experience life does not explain the phenomenon well; that everybody experiences whether one attains one’s goals, targets or one fails it anyway. Whether one is a believer or not a believer; it is one’s duty to remember always that humanity flourishes under the doctrine of mutual gratification; that is needed for co-existence in this world.
They think that the believers are working for the promise of paradise after death; so many believers waste their lives here on earth because they think the best is yet to come. Working for a living is not detestable and in fact believers do work to earn a living; they also serve humanity with as much zeal as do the non-believers, yet always mindful of the purpose of life which makes life a positive pursuit.
They don’t work in a way that others get harmed and humanity falls out of balance, and someone is cheated out of their share of gratification.
This is how it is described in the story of Cain and Able; where Cain felt cheated.
We should care that humanity does not become out balanced in the course of our achieving limited goals and targets.
Always keeping in mind; are we not cheating another out of their gratification if we convince them that their PURPOSE in life has no value?
They are not being cheated; they are only to steer their lives in a way that they achieve the meaning in life they have found within the overall purpose which they have been made responsible to uphold; in fact it will rather boost their efforts.
Going to heaven-is the purpose of religion is a concept mostly misunderstood, it is not the primary purpose of religion; though that would happen anyway by default if one achieves the purpose of life.
One may say that one have plenty of purpose. I intend to enjoy my life, and to achieve the goals that I believe will make me happy and satisfied with the choices I have made in my life.
There is plenty of meaning and purpose in my life; a non-believer atheist may say.
Here one should think that humans are all one species; so a common purpose should apply to everyone in a broader sense.
I think one should not mention one’s personal targets that is not to be confused with the purpose of human life
Creating a purpose for one’s life is different from assigning a purpose by the creator himself.
You create a purpose for your life; which you think gives your life a meaning. If you should decide to create a meaning that serves a purpose higher than self then that would be good.
The highest purpose life can have is to serve humanity, to make it stronger, to build its knowledge base, to understand the wisdom/truth derived by all knowledge and experience received.
Thus, the human species continues to live on, and on, and on.
Why should not there be a great purpose of human life which is an intelligent race; they can speak and write?
Lower Life cannot speak or write, except to a little extent; so their purpose should not be equaled to the Human Life; it will be most unreasonable.
Pantheists are wrong to maintain the view that the Universe or Nature and God are identical. This is wrong; nature does manifest and reflect the attributes of the Creator but nature is different from the Creator.
The Creator-God Allah YHWH is distinctively different from the created; the universe and all within it are created by Him and under his effective control; so they are not identical:
[39:63] Allah is the Creator of all things, and He is Guardian over all things.
[39:64] To Him belong the keys of the heavens and the earth; and as for those who disbelieve in the Signs of Allah, these it is who are the losers.
[39:65] Say, ‘Is it other gods than Allah that you bid me worship, O ye ignorant ones?’
[39:66] And verily it has been revealed to thee as unto those before thee: ‘If thou attribute partners to God, thy work shall surely go vain and thou shalt certainly be of the losers.’
[39:67] Aye, worship Allah and be among the thankful.
[39:68] And they do not esteem Allah, with the esteem that is due to Him. And the whole earth will be but His handful on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens will be rolled up in His right hand. Glory to Him and exalted is He above that which they associate with Him.
We don’t deny that there are people among the atheists who have served the cause of humanity; but that is one aspect of life; believers also do it; it is common with the good people irrespective whether they are believers or non-believers.
These might be famous people and celebrities. They are politicians, authors, actors, businesspeople, directors, professors, intellectuals, scientists, performers, artists and others.
They might have all accomplished a significant success in their field during their lives and would have received recognition for it; and that is why they were famous.
But the non-believers did not attach the true dimension of the purpose of life with their deeds, which they could have done, if they knew it.
Speaking generally about the purpose of life for all of humanity one may say it is probably simply to reproduce the off-spring; that exists there and is common with the other animals; but here the question arises: do the humans have the same purpose as the animals have.
One may note here a point that humans need much more caring than the other animals need; which hints that the purpose of creation of humans is much higher than of the animals. A calf would be on his own within a couple of months but a human child needs much more care; he has to learn how to speak, how to deal with others and how to get educated. So purpose of animals and humans cannot be equaled.
However famous the celebrities are; while they have been allowed free will and they can spend their lives as they please; but they have no intention to lead their life in particular relating to the purpose of life, so intentionally or unintentionally they waste their life in this perspective in mind.
Nobody in this world accomplishes anything significant without a sense of purpose. All of these people have demonstrated a strong sense of meaning in their lives according to the goals and and definitely not “whiling away their lives.”
Lance Armstrong, who is a record-setting Tour de France cyclist, and has survived testicular cancer after being given a 40% chance to live, and now works for cancer research.
This man has accomplished a tremendous amount in his life. Nobody lives the life he has lived without goals and purpose.
These are just his thoughts; it does not explain the purpose of human life.
Such acts are done more often by religious people than the atheists.
[2:63] Surely, the Believers, and the Jews, and the Christians and the Sabians — whichever party from among these truly believes in Allah and the Last Day and does good deeds — shall have their reward with their Lord, and no fear shall come upon them, nor shall they grieve.
Why should not there be a great purpose of human life which is an intelligent race; they can speak and write?
Life at a lower level of evolution cannot speak or write; so their purpose should not be equaled to the purpose of human life who can speak and write distinctive qualities of humans; it will be most unreasonable.
The parents only know that they performed their natural duty and urge like I performed my duty and urge; that is personal thing; not a common purpose of life where evolution leads us all the human beings.
That could be their pass time to entertain one; they have yet to find a purpose of life for which evolution started and is leading all the human beings.
That is defining a personal or limited goal; not the purpose of human life at large.
There are the purposes society or others assign to you. You have duties and responsibilities. Many are assigned rather than being chosen. They are not objective purposes because they are not natural, and they are not subjective because you don’t choose them.
Then there are people who just don’t need an objective and don’t like assigned purpose, but find their own subjective purpose is all they need or want.
Einstein was right to say: A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty – it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and this alone, I am a deeply religious man.
You will agree that the atheists have no idea of purpose of life of a man; if one does not know it, one has no intent to achieve it; all of one’s deeds are just in vain.
Life without purpose is life wasted.
There is a grand and broad purpose of life within which one could have one’s goals and targets.
The atheists agnostics skeptics apatheists; all while away their lives; finding no real purpose in life and no goal in life, their actions become meaningless and their thoughts get frustrated.
The humanity sometimes has been exploited in the name of Religion, but not by the truthful ones; it were the fake ones who did it. It is good if someone comes out of these so called Religionists.
The same way some Atheists do exploit the ordinary man in the name of humanity, in the name of peace, in the name of science; it is sheer exploitation, nothing more than that.
If one needs to come out of a Religion syndrome; the same way one needs to come out of the Anti-Religion syndrome.
One has to be on the moderation; beware of the extremists/exploiters, please.
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
AND if you LOVE Jesus and Mary (as mentioned in the Koran) do you also believe that Jesus is the Son of God and the Word Incarnate and the Alpha and Omega and the Lamb of God? What do you MEAN you LOVE them???
Hi friend Shaunm1963
Yes, I love Jesus and Mary like I love all the Messengers Prophets mentioned in Quran i.e. Moses, Moses’ mother, Noah, Jonah etc. They were exemplary personalities for the human beings; that is why they were selected by the Creator-God Allah YHWH as Models for humanity.
1. I don’t believe Jesus to be son of god, in its literal meaning; yes I believe that he was one of the persons whom the Creator- God loved.
2. Jesus was never a Word incarnate in its literal meaning; but in the meaning that all the Messenger Prophets fulfilled the purpose of the creations of human beings; in that sense all the Messengers are the Word incarnate; nothing special with Jesus.
3. In the same sense all Messengers are Alpha and Omega; in the image of the Creator- God Allah YHWH; and they fulfill the purpose of human creation.
4. All the Messengers have to suffer and make sacrifices in the way of the Creator- God Allah YHWH; they are all Lambs of God, nothing special with Jesus.
5. Jesus talked in parables; the sinful and deserting scribes and the Church did not understand the parables sometimes and took it literally; they carved myths from the parables, we don’t have to follow their mistakes unnecessarily for nothing.
The human society is and must be rational, reasonable and logical; it cannot live in mythical castles. It is for this that I say the Jesus of Bible is no more relevant in the West. Jesus and Mary of Quran are real and relevant for the West and hence they must be loved as their celebrities.
I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran; not the mythical ones as mentioned by the cunning Paul and sinful scribes in the NT.
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
Islam not only frees the body but the soul of the human beings. Of course one could achieve such ideals without trampling on the civil right of the others. It is for this that the Creator – God Allah YHWH sends his word of guidance on the perfect men called Messengers Prophets in all nations and regions of the world. These were the persons who got freed themselves regions physically, morally and spirituality. They never trampled on the rights of others; rather they gave them the rights even if they had to forgo their own rights:
[8:39] Say to those who disbelieve, if they desist, that which is past will be forgiven them; and if they return thereto, then verily, the example of the former peoples has already gone before them. [8:40] And fight them until there is no persecution and religion is wholly for Allah. But if they desist, then surely Allah is Watchful of what they do. [8:41] And if they turn their backs, then know that Allah is your Protector. What an excellent Protector and what an excellent Helper!
Muhammad was one such person; the cream of the humanity. He relinquished his rights but he fought for the rights of the persecuted and to establish the free will for everybody.
I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.
I think President Obama’s following words are quotable quotes or words of wisdom.
“The essential truth of democracy is that each nation determines its own destiny.”
“Each nation gives life to democracy in its own way, and in line with its own traditions.”
“In Moscow, I spoke of the need for an international system where the universal rights of human beings are respected, and violations of those rights are opposed. And that must include a commitment to support those who resolve conflicts peacefully, to sanction and stop those who don’t, and to help those who have suffered.”
I appreciate Dr. Walid Phares to have given them in his article.
I don’t agree with Dr. Walid Phares’s advice that the West should intervene in the affairs of other nations in the name of democracy or humanity; this would be like the “terrorists” use the name Muslim while their acts and deeds are only political and are not supported by Quran/Islam/Muhammad.
Is Dr. Walid Phares a “Taliban or Al-Quaida” of the Atheists/Agnostics; suggesting aggression in the name of democracy or human rights?
I don’t think so.
He should have supported Obama’s wisdom.
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
Teachings of Quran/Islam/Muhammad-Peace with the fellow human beings and submission to the will of God Allah YHWH- the CreatorJuly 22, 2009
I posted following comments on the undermentioned blog; the comments have not got through, hope it are published very soon:
I agree with you that the root meaning of Islam is “peace” and “submission”. Peace with the fellow human beings and submission to the will of God Allah YHWH- the Creator. This is the most natural way; and is also the divine purpose of human evolution.This can be best achieved, in my opinion, if all the natural and evolved human faculties are maximized to the excellence; the temporal, moral and spiritual faculties are uplifted. Concentration on one faculty while ignoring the others could disturb the natural and divine balance of humanity.
All human beings are just like one family; all must be loved and no one to be ignored and hated.
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
I posted following comments on faithfreedom.org; the comments have not yet been published and await moderation:
“Paar Sura 65:4 says marry babies before the period.”
I thought it was appropriate for our friend Raisinhead when referring to a text of the verse of Quran to give the usual context of the same which normally consists of five preceding and five following verses; and then to establish his viewpoint to convince the members of this forum. Since he has not given it; I will like to make it convenient for my friends here and I quote from an internet site:
[65:1] بِسْمِ اللهِ الرَّحْمـٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ
[65:1] بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ
[65:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[65:1] اللہ کے نام کے ساتھ جو بے انتہا رحم کرنے والا، بِن مانگے دینے والا (اور) بار بار رحم کرنے والا ہے۔
[65:2] يٰۤاَيُّهَا النَّبِىُّ اِذَا طَلَّقْتُمُ النِّسَآءَ فَطَلِّقُوْهُنَّ لِعِدَّتِهِنَّ وَاَحْصُوا الْعِدَّةَ ۚ وَاتَّقُوا اللّٰهَ رَبَّكُمْۚ لَا تُخْرِجُوْهُنَّ مِنْۢ بُيُوْتِهِنَّ وَلَا يَخْرُجْنَ اِلَّاۤ اَنْ يَّاْتِيْنَ بِفَاحِشَةٍ مُّبَيِّنَةٍؕ وَتِلْكَ حُدُوْدُ اللّٰهِؕ وَمَنْ يَّتَعَدَّ حُدُوْدَ اللّٰهِ فَقَدْ ظَلَمَ نَفْسَهٗؕ لَا تَدْرِىْ لَعَلَّ اللّٰهَ يُحْدِثُ بَعْدَ ذٰلِكَ اَمْرًا
[65:2] يَـٰٓأَيُّہَا ٱلنَّبِىُّ إِذَا طَلَّقۡتُمُ ٱلنِّسَآءَ فَطَلِّقُوهُنَّ لِعِدَّتِہِنَّ وَأَحۡصُواْ ٱلۡعِدَّةَۖ وَٱتَّقُواْ ٱللَّهَ رَبَّڪُمۡۖ لَا تُخۡرِجُوهُنَّ مِنۢ بُيُوتِهِنَّ وَلَا يَخۡرُجۡنَ إِلَّآ أَن يَأۡتِينَ بِفَـٰحِشَةٍ۬ مُّبَيِّنَةٍ۬ۚ وَتِلۡكَ حُدُودُ ٱللَّهِۚ وَمَن يَتَعَدَّ حُدُودَ ٱللَّهِ فَقَدۡ ظَلَمَ نَفۡسَهُ ۥۚ لَا تَدۡرِى لَعَلَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحۡدِثُ بَعۡدَ ذَٲلِكَ أَمۡرً۬ا
[65:2] O Prophet! when you divorce women, divorce them for the prescribed period, and reckon the period; and fear Allah. Turn them not out of their houses, nor should they themselves leave unless they commit an act which is manifestly foul. And these are the limits set by Allah; and whoso transgresses the limits of Allah, he indeed wrongs his own soul. Thou knowest not; it may be that thereafter Allah will bring something new to pass.
[65:2] اے نبی! جب تم (لوگ) اپنی بیویوں کو طلاق دیا کرو تو ان کو ان کی (طلاق کی) عدت کے مطابق طلاق دو اور عدت کا شمار رکھو اور اللہ، اپنے ربّ سے ڈرو۔ انہیں اُن کے گھروں سے نہ نکالو اور نہ وہ خود نکلیں سوائے اس کے کہ وہ کھلی کھلی بے حیائی کی مرتکب ہوئی ہوں۔ اور یہ اللہ کی حدود ہیں اور جو بھی اللہ کی حدود سے تجاوز کرے تو یقیناً اس نے اپنی جان پر ظلم کیا۔ تُو نہیں جانتا کہ شاید اس کے بعد اللہ کوئی (نیا) فیصلہ ظاہر کردے۔
[65:3] فَاِذَا بَلَغْنَ اَجَلَهُنَّ فَاَمْسِكُوْهُنَّ بِمَعْرُوْفٍ اَوْ فَارِقُوْهُنَّ بِمَعْرُوْفٍ وَّاَشْهِدُوْا ذَوَىْ عَدْلٍ مِّنْكُمْ وَاَقِيْمُوا الشَّهَادَةَ لِلّٰهِؕ ذٰلِكُمْ يُوْعَظُ بِهٖ مَنْ كَانَ يُؤْمِنُ بِاللّٰهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْاٰخِرِ ؕ وَمَنْ يَّتَّقِ اللّٰهَ يَجْعَل لَّهٗ مَخْرَجًاۙ
[65:3] فَإِذَا بَلَغۡنَ أَجَلَهُنَّ فَأَمۡسِكُوهُنَّ بِمَعۡرُوفٍ أَوۡ فَارِقُوهُنَّ بِمَعۡرُوفٍ۬ وَأَشۡہِدُواْ ذَوَىۡ عَدۡلٍ۬ مِّنكُمۡ وَأَقِيمُواْ ٱلشَّهَـٰدَةَ لِلَّهِۚ ذَٲلِڪُمۡ يُوعَظُ بِهِۦ مَن كَانَ يُؤۡمِنُ بِٱللَّهِ وَٱلۡيَوۡمِ ٱلۡأَخِرِۚ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجۡعَل لَّهُ ۥ مَخۡرَجً۬ا
[65:3] Then, when they are about to reach their prescribed term, keep them with kindness, or put them away with kindness, and call to witness two just persons from among you; and bear true witness for Allah. This is by which is admonished he who believes in Allah and the Last Day. And he who fears Allah — He will make for him a way out,
[65:3] پس جب وہ اپنی مقررہ میعاد کو پہنچ جائیں تو پھر انہیں معروف طریق پر روک لو یا انہیں معروف طریق پر جدا کردو اور اپنے میں سے دو صاحبِ انصاف (شخصوں) کو گواہ ٹھہرا لو اور اللہ کے لئے شہادت کو قائم کرو۔ یہ وہ امر ہے جس کی نصیحت کی جاتی ہے ہر اس شخص کو، جو اللہ اور یومِ آخر پر ایمان لاتا ہے۔ اور جو اللہ سے ڈرے اُس کے لئے وہ نجات کی کوئی راہ بنا دیتا ہے۔
[65:4] وَّيَرْزُقْهُ مِنْ حَيْثُ لَا يَحْتَسِبُؕ وَمَنْ يَّتَوَكَّلْ عَلَى اللّٰهِ فَهُوَ حَسْبُهٗؕ اِنَّ اللّٰهَ بَالِغُ اَمْرِهٖؕ قَدْ جَعَلَ اللّٰهُ لِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ قَدْرًا
[65:4] وَيَرۡزُقۡهُ مِنۡ حَيۡثُ لَا يَحۡتَسِبُۚ وَمَن يَتَوَكَّلۡ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ فَهُوَ حَسۡبُهُ ۥۤۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ بَـٰلِغُ أَمۡرِهِۦۚ قَدۡ جَعَلَ ٱللَّهُ لِكُلِّ شَىۡءٍ۬ قَدۡرً۬ا
[65:4] And will provide for him from where he expects not. And he who puts his trust in Allah — He is sufficient for him. Verily, Allah will accomplish His purpose. For everything has Allah appointed a measure.
[65:4] اور وہ اُسے وہاں سے رزق عطا کرتا ہے جہاں سے وہ گمان بھی نہیں کرسکتا۔ اور جو اللہ پر توکل کرے تو وہ اُس کے لئے کافی ہے۔ یقیناً اللہ اپنے فیصلہ کو مکمل کرکے رہتا ہے۔ اللہ نے ہر چیز کا ایک منصوبہ بنا رکھا ہے۔
[65:5] وَالّٰٓـىٴِْ يَٮِٕسْنَ مِنَ الْمَحِيْضِ مِنْ نِّسَآٮِٕكُمْ اِنِ ارْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلٰثَةُ اَشْهُرٍ وَّالّٰٓـىٴِْ لَمْ يَحِضْنَؕ وَاُولَاتُ الْاَحْمَالِ اَجَلُهُنَّ اَنْ يَّضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّؕ وَمَنْ يَّتَّقِ اللّٰهَ يَجْعَل لَّهٗ مِنْ اَمْرِهٖ یُسْرًا
[65:5] وَٱلَّـٰٓـِٔى يَٮِٕسۡنَ مِنَ ٱلۡمَحِيضِ مِن نِّسَآٮِٕكُمۡ إِنِ ٱرۡتَبۡتُمۡ فَعِدَّتُہُنَّ ثَلَـٰثَةُ أَشۡهُرٍ۬ وَٱلَّـٰٓـِٔى لَمۡ يَحِضۡنَۚ وَأُوْلَـٰتُ ٱلۡأَحۡمَالِ أَجَلُهُنَّ أَن يَضَعۡنَ حَمۡلَهُنَّۚ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يَجۡعَل لَّهُ ۥ مِنۡ أَمۡرِهِۦ يُسۡرً۬ا
[65:5] And if you are in doubt as to such of your women as despair of monthly courses, then know that the prescribed period for them is three months, and the same is for such as have not had their monthly courses yet. And as for those who are with child, their period shall be until they are delivered of their burden. And whoso fears Allah, He will provide facilities for him in his affair.
[65:5] اور تمہاری عورتوں میں سے جو حیض سے مایوس ہوچکی ہوں اگر تمہیں شک ہو تو ان کی عدت تین مہینے ہے اور اُن کی بھی جو حائضہ نہیں ہوئیں۔ اور جہاں تک حمل والیوں کا تعلق ہے اُن کی عدت وضعِ حمل ہے۔ اور جو اللہ کا تقویٰ اختیار کرے اللہ اپنے حکم سے اس کے لئے آسانی پیدا کردے گا۔
[65:6] ذٰلِكَ اَمْرُ اللّٰهِ اَنْزَلَهٗۤ اِلَيْكُمْؕ وَمَنْ يَّتَّقِ اللّٰهَ يُكَفِّرْ عَنْهُ سَيِّاٰتِهٖ وَيُعْظِمْ لَهٗۤ اَجْرًا
[65:6] ذَٲلِكَ أَمۡرُ ٱللَّهِ أَنزَلَهُ ۥۤ إِلَيۡكُمۡۚ وَمَن يَتَّقِ ٱللَّهَ يُكَفِّرۡ عَنۡهُ سَيِّـَٔاتِهِۦ وَيُعۡظِمۡ لَهُ ۥۤ أَجۡرًا
[65:6] That is the command of Allah which He has revealed to you. And whoso fears Allah — He will remove the evil consequences of his deeds and will enlarge his reward.
[65:6] یہ اللہ کا حکم ہے جو اُس نے تمہاری طرف اتارا۔ اور جو اللہ سے ڈرتا ہے وہ اُس سے اس کی برائیاں دور کر دیتا ہے اور اُس کے اَجر کو بہت بڑھا دیتا ہے۔
[65:7] اَسْكِنُوْهُنَّ مِنْ حَيْثُ سَكَنْتُمْ مِّنْ وُّجْدِكُمْ وَلَا تُضَآرُّوْهُنَّ لِتُضَيِّقُوْا عَلَيْهِنَّؕ وَاِنْ كُنَّ اُولَاتِ حَمْلٍ فَاَنْفِقُوْا عَلَيْهِنَّ حَتّٰى يَضَعْنَ حَمْلَهُنَّۚ فَاِنْ اَرْضَعْنَ لَـكُمْ فَاٰتُوْهُنَّ اُجُوْرَهُنَّۚ وَاْتَمِرُوْا بَيْنَكُمْ بِمَعْرُوْفٍۚ وَاِنْ تَعَاسَرْتُمْ فَسَتُرْضِعُ لَهٗۤ اُخْرٰىؕ
[65:7] أَسۡكِنُوهُنَّ مِنۡ حَيۡثُ سَكَنتُم مِّن وُجۡدِكُمۡ وَلَا تُضَآرُّوهُنَّ لِتُضَيِّقُواْ عَلَيۡہِنَّۚ وَإِن كُنَّ أُوْلَـٰتِ حَمۡلٍ۬ فَأَنفِقُواْ عَلَيۡہِنَّ حَتَّىٰ يَضَعۡنَ حَمۡلَهُنَّۚ فَإِنۡ أَرۡضَعۡنَ لَكُمۡ فَـَٔاتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّۖ وَأۡتَمِرُواْ بَيۡنَكُم بِمَعۡرُوفٍ۬ۖ وَإِن تَعَاسَرۡتُمۡ فَسَتُرۡضِعُ لَهُ ۥۤ أُخۡرَىٰ
[65:7] Lodge them during the prescribed period in the houses wherein you dwell, according to the best of your means; and harass them not that you may create hardships for them. And if they be with child, spend on them until they are delivered of their burden. And if they give suck to the child for you, give them their recompense, and consult with one another in kindness; but if you meet with difficulty from each other, then another woman shall suckle the child for him (the father).
[65:7] اُن کو سکونت مہیا کرو جہاں تم (خود) اپنی حیثیت کے مطابق رہتے ہو اور انہیں تکلیف نہ پہنچاؤ تاکہ ان پر زندگی تنگ کردو۔ اور اگر وہ حمل والیاں ہوں تو ان پر خرچ کرتے رہو یہاں تک کہ وہ اپنے حمل سے فارغ ہو جائیں۔ پھر اگر وہ تمہاری خاطر دودھ پلائیں تو ان کی اُجرت انہیں دو اور اپنے درمیان معروف کے مطابق موافقت کا ماحول پیدا کرو اور اگر تم ایک دوسرے سے (معاملہ فہمی میں) تنگی محسوس کرو تو اُس (باپ) کے لئے کوئی دوسری (دودھ پلانے والی) دودھ پلا ئے۔
[65:8] لِيُنْفِقْ ذُوْ سَعَةٍ مِّنْ سَعَتِهٖؕ وَمَنْ قُدِرَ عَلَيْهِ رِزْقُهٗ فَلْيُنْفِقْ مِمَّاۤ اٰتٰٮهُ اللّٰهُؕ لَا يُكَلِّفُ اللّٰهُ نَفْسًا اِلَّا مَاۤ اٰتٰٮهَاؕ سَيَجْعَلُ اللّٰهُ بَعْدَ عُسْرٍ يُّسْرًا
[65:8] لِيُنفِقۡ ذُو سَعَةٍ۬ مِّن سَعَتِهِۦۖ وَمَن قُدِرَ عَلَيۡهِ رِزۡقُهُ ۥ فَلۡيُنفِقۡ مِمَّآ ءَاتَٮٰهُ ٱللَّهُۚ لَا يُكَلِّفُ ٱللَّهُ نَفۡسًا إِلَّا مَآ ءَاتَٮٰهَاۚ سَيَجۡعَلُ ٱللَّهُ بَعۡدَ عُسۡرٍ۬ يُسۡرً۬ا
[65:8] Let him who has abundance of means spend out of his abundance. And let him whose means of subsistence are straitened spend out of what Allah has given him. Allah burdens not any soul beyond that which He has given it. Allah will soon bring about ease after hardship.
[65:8] چاہئے کہ صاحبِ حیثیت اپنی حیثیت کے مطابق خرچ کرے اور جس پر اُس کا رزق تھوڑا کردیا گیا ہو تو جو بھی اُسے اللہ نے دیا ہے وہ اس میں سے خرچ کرے۔ اللہ ہرگز کسی جان کو اس سے بڑھ کر جو اُس نے اُسے دیا ہو تکلیف نہیں دیتا۔ اللہ ضرور ہر تنگی کے بعد ایک آسانی پیدا کردیتا ہے۔
[65:9] وَكَاَيِّنْ مِّنْ قَرْيَةٍ عَتَتْ عَنْ اَمْرِ رَبِّهَا وَرُسُلِهٖ فَحَاسَبْنٰهَا حِسَابًا شَدِيْدًاۙ وَّعَذَّبْنٰهَا عَذَابًا نُّكْرًا
[65:9] وَكَأَيِّن مِّن قَرۡيَةٍ عَتَتۡ عَنۡ أَمۡرِ رَبِّہَا وَرُسُلِهِۦ فَحَاسَبۡنَـٰهَا حِسَابً۬ا شَدِيدً۬ا وَعَذَّبۡنَـٰهَا عَذَابً۬ا نُّكۡرً۬ا
[65:9] How many a city rebelled against the command of its Lord and His Messengers, and We called it to severe account, and punished it with dire punishment!
[65:9] اور کتنی ہی ایسی بستیاں ہیں جنہوں نے اپنے ربّ کے حکم کی نافرمانی کی اور اس کے رسولوں کی بھی تو ہم نے ان سے ایک بہت سخت حساب لیا اور انہیں بہت تکلیف دِہ عذاب میں مبتلا کیا۔
[65:10] فَذَاقَتْ وَبَالَ اَمْرِهَا وَكَانَ عَاقِبَةُ اَمْرِهَا خُسْرًا
[65:10] فَذَاقَتۡ وَبَالَ أَمۡرِهَا وَكَانَ عَـٰقِبَةُ أَمۡرِهَا خُسۡرًا
[65:10] So it tasted the evil consequences of its conduct, and the end of its affair was ruin.
[65:10] پس انہوں نے اپنے فیصلہ کا وبال چکھ لیا اور ان کے کاموں کا انجام گھاٹا تھا۔
Anybody here may please mention with reasonable arguments that the text in Arabic and its context straightforwardly discusses and commands child marriage. My opinion is that the Quran here discusses the adult women and not the child girls; not even remotely.
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