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Only an Intelligent Being can endow intelligence; not evolution

November 13, 2011

Only an Intelligent Being can endow intelligence; not evolution
This is just to give one a taste of a dialogue on the above subject for anybody who feels interest in it; courtesy:

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/86393#top

The OP

1. Only an Intelligent Being could endow intelligence to others; universe or nature or evolution are deaf and dumb; they cannot bestow intelligence on others of their own; it is the Creator God- the Most-Intelligent the Most-Wise who has bestowed intelligence to others as per His design of evolving life.

2. wilderness wrote:
Nice declaration of fact. Now can you back it up or is this just what you would like to be true as it reinforces your belief system?

3. paarsurrey wrote:
What anomaly one sees in the above statement of fact? If one doesn’t see any anomaly; and it is reasonable; why should one doubt it?

4. wanzulfikri wrote:
I can see that you are saying that an Intelligent Being endows intelligence. Maybe, the theory of evolution is one of god’s way to show how human receive Intelligence. For me, I believe that humans are humans and not apes based on what Darwin says. Intelligence is given by the Creator and maybe the theory of evolution can be perceived as a way that god can give us intelligence

5. Cagsil wrote:
Actually, intelligence is never endowed. It’s developed. So it’s incorrect.

6. Brenda Durham wrote:
I disagree. A child at birth is intelligent (actually, I think they’re intelligent before birth, but that’s probably too deep an issue to go into right now?), and their level of understanding can be “developed”, but I maintain that they’re intelligent even before they experience things and places and language, etc. What I’m saying is, (and what I think paar is saying is) that intelligence is a basic trait of humans; and that trait is given to mankind by God.

7. Brenda Durham wrote:
I disagree. A child at birth is intelligent (actually, I think they’re intelligent before birth, but that’s probably too deep an issue to go into right now?), and their level of understanding can be “developed”, but I maintain that they’re intelligent even before they experience things and places and language, etc. What I’m saying is, (and what I think paar is saying is) that intelligence is a basic trait of humans; and that trait is given to mankind by God.
I think of intelligence being “developed” as through evolution. Humans have evolved to a point that they have the intelligence trait. We are capable of intelligence. So yes a baby is going to have intelligence. I’m not trying to say any other way of thinking is wrong. People are never going to agree.

8. wilderness wrote:
Yes and no. If a chimp and human are raised together from birth, in the same environment, the chimp learns far faster than the human. It learns to control it’s body and muscles faster, it learns about it’s environment faster.

Until the child begins to learn language. At that point it’s all over, and the child quickly outstrips the chimp in everything but body control; some of that is simple physical development and can’t be rushed.

Is the chimp then more intelligent than the human until the language is learned? If the chimp had the anatomical ability to communicate via complex speech would it remain more intelligent and be writing hubs at the age of 3?

Intelligence isn’t limited to humanity, and it is quite possible that a few animals (cetaceans maybe?) are as intelligent as humans but the cultural and physical differences as well as environment are simply so great that we cannot understand or recognize their intelligence yet. We’re not smart enough to learn their language.

9. wilderness wrote:
There is no God; there is no creator; there is no most wise.
There is an anomaly there; nothing exists on its own without a Creator except the Creator God who by definition exist on His own; so I have reason to disagree with you.

10. paarsurrey wrote:
There is an anomaly there; nothing exists on its own without a Creator except the Creator God who by definition exist on His own; so I have reason to disagree with you.
11. paarsurrey wrote:

The Creator God has many attributes; some of these are mentioned in the following verses of Quran:

[112:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[112:2] Say, ‘He is Allah, the One;
[112:3] ‘Allah, the Independent and Besought of all.
[112:4] ‘He begets not, nor is He begotten;
[112:5] ‘And there is none like unto Him.’

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … php?ch=112

I know you don’t believe in Quran; but the attributes mentioned in it are a must for the Creator God being reasonable; I am just pointing out that. Just focus on the reason part.

12. autumn18 wrote:
I don’t see the universe, nature, and evolution as deaf and dumb.

13. Paarsurrey wrote:
Did universe talk to anybody? Quote the Word from Universe, please

14. psycheskinner wrote:
So who endowed intelligence on the intelligence higher being? Or did he just… evolve?

15. Paarsurrey wrote:
By definition the Creator God is being on His own; so the question is not valid. Sorry for that.

16. Emile R wrote:
So, you admit intelligence is evolved. Why the OP then?

17. Paarsurrey wrote:
I mention and mean that the Creator God set evolution to go; this way he endowed intelligence to human beings and others; of itself evolution is deaf and dumb; it cannot produce intelligence.

Hubpages is a good discussion site; one could comment there or here in this blog; comments are most welcome.

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/86393#top

Is Islam the true religion of GOD?

September 25, 2009

http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=4182

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend Ani

Yes, Islam is the true religion of God; but that does not ‎mean that other revealed religion were not truthful. God ‎Allah YHWH sent the warners or Messengers Prophets to all ‎nations of the world for guidance; this is very much ‎mentioned in Quran, in my opinion. Quran is not a book of ‎names, so Quran has not mentioned them by names; so we can ‎deduce from that that Krishna,Buddha,Zoroaster, Socrates, ‎Moses,Jesus etc were all perfect men sent by God Allah YHWH ‎for guidance of human beings. They were the truthful ‎persons; and so were their Revelations truthful in origin.‎

All human beings are just like a family; every one of them ‎is to be loved and noone to be hated.‎

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim


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