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ABOUT “HINDU” AND “HINDUISM”

July 21, 2015

Paarsurrey quotes here for the benefit of public.

QUOTES ABOUT “HINDU” AND “HINDUISM”

by Swami Jnaneshvara Bharati
SwamiJ.com

There are many valuable quotes, some are given below:

http://www.swamij.com/hindu-word.htm#quotes

Quote

“The word Hindu is also not mentioned in holy books, Upanishads, Shashtras and Valmiki Ramayan, Shatpath Brahmin Granth etc. And in these holy books there is not any word Hindus or sects or caste system, where as it is clearly mentioned in every chapter of thereof that there is only one God of the Universe.”

“The name Hinduism is a misnomer and of a foreign coinage. Indeed the term Hindu is found nowhere in the Vedic scriptures, nor can it be found in any classical texts of Sanatana Dharma.”

“According to Jawaharlal Nehru, the earliest reference to the word ‘Hindu’ can be traced to a Tantrik book of the eighth century C.E., where the word means a people, and not the followers of a particular religion. The use of the word ‘Hindu’ in connection with a particular religion is of very late occurrence.”

Unqoute

http://www.swamij.com/hindu-word.htm#quotes

Buddhists don’t believe in G-d: why should they have a scripture then?

May 29, 2015

One may view and comment on my posts at <www.religiousforums.com> <Thread : Buddhists don’t believe in G-d: why should they have a scripture then?>. Please click post # below to join the discussion.

Paarsurrey wrote:

Like one could be a Jew and Atheist.

Yet one cannot be a Muslim and an Atheist.
Regards

tiki likes this.

Do Hindus & Muslims Talk to Demons?

January 7, 2014

paarsurrey says:
01/06/2014 at 7:32 pm

Quoting your words:
“If they constant worship someone other than Jesus, that presence can’t be the real God.”

I don’t quite understand your above sentence (or a part of it); Jesus did not claim to be a god or son of god in its literal sense. So even the Christians don’t converse with the One-True-God (Allah Yahweh Ahura-Mazda Parmeshawara); yet they don’t think that they talk to devil or demons.
Please elaborate.

Thanks

Triangulations

Of course they don’t!  But sadly enough, in my Christian days, that took me a while to understand.

Hindus_Praying

As I traveled across Asia and met devote, kind, thoughtful, loving people who believed things very different from my Christian view, I began to doubt my version of Christianity. Many Hindus & Muslims claim to feel the presence of the Divine, or the presence of God but my Evangelical Christianity would not let me believe that. Sure, they may feel it for a moment, but if they constant worship someone other than Jesus, that presence can’t be the real God.

Simply put, here are the beliefs I was told and which I came to partially believed that led to that conclusion:

  • there is only one god, his name is Yahweh/Jesus/Holy Spirit.
  • there is only one way to heaven, that is by right belief in Jesus
  • religions are all-or-nothing: right or wrong
  • Christianity…

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Science and Naturalism

July 21, 2013

Paarsurrey says:
I like following points mentioned by you.

1. science is not bound to a particular philosophy

2. I will have to define some terms. When I say “science” I mean the scientific method. Science is (as I’ve said in previous blog posts) organized and methodical learning. Science is about asking questions, performing experiments, and then asking more and better questions based on the results. Science is tool, and it is a tool that is open to anyone who can think. Whether you are Hindu, Christian, or an atheist you can perform science. A scientist only needs to believe two things on faith; that nature is reasonable and that nature is understandable.

3. If everything has a reason then science as a concept will work; if everything just happens for no particular reason, if there are no “laws” defining how things work, then science is only an illusion.

4. To be a scientist you do not have follow any particular creed. That is why there are excellent scientists both past and present who are Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists, Agnostics, Muslims, Christians, etc. However this fact is not immediately apparent to all people.

5. Now it is understandable why so many people, if only unconsciously, believe that you must be a naturalist to be a scientist. That is because of the limits of science itself. Science can only tell us about things inside of nature; things we can observe and test. If there is a God outside of nature then science cannot prove his existence.

You have used simple words but have explained a lot; this bridges gaps between the Theists and the Atheists.

The Page Nebula

I recently had the pleasure of having an intellectual conversation with a friend who I had a disagreement with. It’s a rare pleasure to be sure, and the fact that it is rare probably says more about me than anything else. Most of my friends agree with me on the matters I care most about, and if there is disagreement we would rather not bring up the subject. This is, I think, typical of most Americans (or perhaps I should say most white Americans; African-American culture is more accepting in general of honest conflict between friends and family which is to their credit). The only reason I came into open argument with this friend was the fact that he repeatedly aired his contrary views on Facebook and it is infinitely easier to get into an argument over the internet than it is in person. On the internet I have all…

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“Word become flesh”- a wrong notion of Catholics Protestants if taken literally

February 10, 2010

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2009/03/16/jesus-is-no-savior-of-christians-if-he-couldnt-save-himself-death-on-cross/#comment-912

somethingcrazy Says:

If you want to see that Jesus created, then just check out the first verses of John’s gospel:
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning”

paarsurrey Says:

Hi friend somethingcrazy

I thank you for participating in the discussion.
Please go through the passages quoted by you again. I don’t see Jesus’ name mentioned in them; if I have missed please underline Jesus’ name in them.

I think it is only a guess of the Catholics Protestants that Jesus’ name has been literally mentioned there; maybe it is just another phenomenon, which John, only a human being wrongly took up like that; nevertheless it is not binding on others to subscribe to John’s mistakes or his wrong views or concepts.

I think it is a mistake of our Christian friends to make Jesus a god; like our Hindu friends have made Krishna a god, in my opinion.
But for Paul; Jesus truthful followers would have never taken Jesus to be a god. Matthew, Marks and Luke did not mention that Word has become flesh.

You might have spoken many words in your life. Did you ever see that any of your Word has become flesh? Your Word would have never even smelt like flesh. It is your tongue and lips and your throat made of flesh that help one to make words, and of course the teeth made of bones, which helps to make the words. The reverse phenomenon never happens, in my opinion.

It is just a mistake of John, or those who wrote for John that they thought otherwise, in my opinion.

Jesus never thought like this; how could he had claimed to be god when he knew that he literally created no new Sun, no new Moon and no new Earth. It is only an accusation of Catholics Protestants against Jesus that Jesus claimed to be literally god.

Jesus could have asserted himself for his claims and reasons more clearly and in a straightforward manner. Whom Jesus as a god had to fear about? Jesus needed no self-appointed spokesmen like Paul or Church, in my opinion. Since Jesus was not god so he did not claim it unequivocally.

I love Jesus for his wisdom. Jesus feared nobody except God Allah YHWH whose humble servant Jesus was, in my opinion.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Did the scribes go to heaven with Jesus and returned to earth to witness where Jesus was seated?

May 16, 2009

Collin Messer says:

Then you don’t believe anything in the Bible after Jesus was resurrected from the tomb? Then you will not believe Paul’s words in 2 Timothy 3:16 where is says, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness…” Paul’s (nor the others) words are in line with Jesus’ teachings, so how is it to be believed that they made it up?

Also, what makes you say that Jesus and Mary headed off to India? You say “I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran”. What does it say?

Collin

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend Collin Messer

I believe that God Allah YHWH revealed his Word on Jesus.

I only prefer Jesus over the clever Paul and the sinful scribes; Jesus never wrote or dictated any account of his life, so there is no credulity to the writings of these people. As I said in my earlier post neither God nor Jesus breathed anything in these peoples ear; it was the killer Paul doing it in their ears; none else.

Since Jesus was alive and traveling towards India, so this was against his will and totally not in line with Jesus’ teachings.

When Jesus survived death on the Cross; he still feared being caught by the Jews in Judea. I don’t see any difficulty in understanding that he went to the East? Is it difficult to go to India than ascending to the heaven with false witnesses describing that he got seated on the right hand of the father? Did the scribes go to heaven with Jesus and then return to earth to witness that Jesus seated there? Of course, it is just a made up fable out of thin air or a myth carved from nothing. It is just an attempt to blind the simple people.

Neither there is any spiritual proof of Jesus ascending to heaven nor a historical proof to that end. Let Jesus be free from all this; and let him go to Kashmir- the heaven on Earth. He was welcome there. Jesus visit to India has been described in the contemporary Hindu scripture, the Buddhist religious records as also by the Muslim historian.

I think it is not difficult to understand it; just google for Jesus in India; and a lot of relevant stuff would show up. Later you may think over it.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran; not the mythical Jesus of Bible.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim.

Jews claim the Gospels have been blatantly plagiarized from Talmud and certain other Jewish books – even whole paragraphs word for word

May 2, 2009

Promised Messiah’s opinion is that the ancient book of Yuz Asaf is Jesus’ (as) own Gospel which was written during his journey to India.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, The promised Messiah, the Second Coming says:

Brother! These are black-hearted people who do not fear
God. They are trying, day and night, to make people love
darkness and forsake the light. I cannot understand how
you could be influenced by the writings of such people.
They are, in fact, worse than the magicians who had
turned ropes into serpents in the presence of Prophet
Moses (as), but since he was a Prophet of God, his staff
swallowed up all their serpents.

The Holy Quran is likewise
the ‘staff of God’ which continues to swallow up
snakes made of ropes, and the day is coming—it is indeed
at hand—when they shall all disappear without a trace.
The author of Yanabi-ul-Islam has tried to prove that the
Holy Quran has been copied from certain accounts or
books, but his effort is nothing compared to the effort
made by a learned Jew to determine the authenticity of the
Gospels.

He has established, in his own estimation, that
the moral teachings of the Gospels have been taken from
the Jewish scripture Talmud and certain other books of
the Israelites, and that this act of plagiary has been so blatant
that whole paragraphs have been copied word for
word.

The scholar has proved that the Gospels are a collection
of stolen material, and has gone so far as to prove
that the ‘Sermon on the Mount’—in which Christians take
such pride—has been copied verbatim from the Talmud.
He has shown that the text has also been copied from
various other books, and has thus astonished many people.
European researchers are also taking a keen interest in this
research.

I recently came across a book written by a Hindu
in which he, too, had tried to prove that the Gospels have
been taken from the teachings of Buddha, and he cited
Buddha’s moral teachings to establish this point. The
story about the devil, who took Jesus(as) from place to place
to tempt him, is also prevalent among the Buddhists. Everyone
is, therefore, entitled to believe that the story has
been copied in the Gospels with minor alterations.

It is an established fact that Jesus (as) came to India and his grave is
to be found in Srinagar, Kashmir, as I have proved with
categorical evidence. And in this context, the detractors are
further justified to believe that the existing Gospels are
merely a sketch of Buddhism. The evidence in this regard
is so overwhelming that it can no longer be concealed.

Another incredible fact is that the ancient book of Yuz
Asaf (which most English scholars believe to have been
published before the birth of Jesus), and which has been
translated in all European countries, is so similar to the
Gospels that many of their passages are identical. The parables
used by the Gospels are also found word for word in
this book.

Even if the person reading it were so ignorant as
to be practically blind, he would still be convinced that the
Gospels have been borrowed from the same book. Some
people, including some English scholars, believe that this
book belongs to Gautama Buddha, and that it was originally
in Sanskrit and was later translated into other
languages.

If this is true, the Gospels would lose all their
credibility and Jesusas would be considered a plagiarist in
all his teachings—God forbid. The book is available for
everyone to see. My own opinion, however, is that this
book is Jesus’ (as) own Gospel which was written during his
journey to India. I have proved with many arguments that it
is indeed the Gospel of Jesus (as), and is purer and holier than
the other Gospels. The English scholars who consider this
book to be that of Buddha, call Jesus (as) a plagiarist by implication,
and thus they dig their own grave.

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Fountain-of-Christianity-20080505MN.pdf

My posts on other Forums

February 26, 2009

http://forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=4866493&postcount=19
Is marriage to a woman a bad thing?

Originally Posted by Pax_Vobiscum_57:
We would all do well to start ignoring paarsurrey, because all he is doing is trolling us for his blog. Go to his link. There’s not an original thought there. EVERY SINGLE POST CONNECTS BACK TO CAF.

I’m going to be the first to say:

Originally Posted by BILL PICK:
pax You are 100% right and we need to stop answering his post he/she is not looking for answers he/she is just here to bash christian, he/she needs to be put on all our ignoe list. he/she has over 4000 post all lies,check them out

Paarsurrey say:

Hi

I think when I was posting on the Judaism forum, I posted some of my posts from there on my blog; when I was posting on a Atheists’ forum I posted some of my posts from there on my blog, and when I was posting on a Hindu forum I posted some of my posts on my blog. I could not find time to do more on my blog, I admit. If you want to see my posts which depict my winning them over or they winning me over, many useful posts out there, which would increase your faith as a Theist, undoubtedly.

If you want to see them all, you may google “paarsurrey” and you would get the clue from their search engine, become a member of these forums and you would be able to read my posts there. I recommend to read my posts on the Atheists forum, which is our joint standpoint with the Catholics.

I am a friend of the Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Hindus and the Atheists/Agnostics as we all are human beings and need to be uplifted morally, spiritually and of course physically to start with.

You may access my posts there if you like, in my opinion; with least or no compulsion.

I love Jesus , Mary as I love Socrates, Buddha and Krishna

Thanks
__________________
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Hindu Claim on Jesus is as old as the Catholic claim

December 3, 2008

Bubbles of thoughts:Over The Khyber
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?p=4500198#post4500198

Hi all brothers and friends in humanity!

As you know I have some blogs; which I started on a good advice from my friends here in this forum. I know little of computers; never had any training for that; so it was difficult to start with, yet with prayers and hard effort, I did make them. One of my blogs is with WordPress; they are good people to help with.

The WordPress people provide stats of different nature; one is the visiting referrers. Well I don’t understand what exactly it means, but I take it as visitors or guests of my blog.

Yesterday, among others there was one

I clicked the link and found that it was a search engine; several links with brief notes were visible on it. The research topic visible was “KASHMIR AND THE BIBLE” powered by google. It contained reference to some of my posts on my blogs and also some of the other entries; which included “Over The Khyber” with link provided: http://www.adwaitha-hermitage.net/studio/Khyber.pdf

With curiosity I clicked the link. The PDF document of 8 pages that appeared seems to be written by some Hindu of Adwaitha Hermitage, the author is by the name The Rev. David R. Graham, seems to be a European name to me.

I give here the first few lines from the first page of the PDF article to share it with the members here:

Over The KhyberResearch Findings At Adwaitha Hermitage
The Rev. David R. Graham
Adwaitha Hermitage
Mid 1990s

The Jewish Homeland is Kashmir. In the Bible, when heaven is mentioned,
Kashmir is meant. This is invariable.
The issue is suzerainty: to whom does one belong? One belongs either to
the gods or to God, to parochial interests or to the Universal Love.
There is no other option. Independence is a delusion. Belonging to God is
the only suzerainty which includes belonging to oneself, the only means of
having freedom. Freedom is being a servant of God rather than of
parochial interests (gods). There is no freedom apart from bondage to
God.

The Kingdom of Heaven is the hegemony of the Solar Dynasty in world
affairs. The Solar Dynasty is the suzerainty of God in world history, the
visible sign of an inward and invisible Grace. The Solar Dynasty is safety,
happiness and health (Latin salus, salvation) amidst the mix and flux of life.

The Solar Dynasty is the line of Rama, the Pandavas, David and Solomon,
Celts, Jesus and Mary, Paul and his wife, Benedict and Scholastica,
Jerome and Paula, Ambrose, Sephardis, Templars, Francis and Clare,
Bernard, Maimonides, Spinoza, Luther, Calvin, Madam Guyon, Bach,
Brahms, Franck, Bahá’u’lláh, Mary Baker Eddy, Kandinsky, Roerich,
Prokofiev, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Paul Tillich and Taizé.
Over The Khyber – 1

Kashmir is connected to the Solar Dynasty through the marriage of Kaikeyi,
Princess of Kashmir, with Dasaratha, Emperor of Ayodhya and father of Lord Rama.1

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I think I never heard the name of the Hindu denomination to which it pertains nor the author. Yet they seem to be deeply having considerable interest in Jesus. No doubt they draw a different picture of Jesus than yours or mine; but they do have a free will, to draw any picture they think sincerely is of Jesus. They naturally are oblivious of the picture that a Jew or a Christian or a Buddhist or a Muslim draws. They have a right which cannot be denied to them; they are equally human beings as we are.

Anybody having more interest in the links may go ahead; others who think that it would injure their bubbles of thoughts should refrain.

I love Jesus and Mary as I do Buddha and Krishna.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim: