Posts Tagged ‘divinity’

Jesus had not an iota of divinity in him

February 26, 2010

http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/holy-post/archive/2010/02/17/ian-hunter-to-dust-we-ll-all-return.aspx

It is stated above:

“Christians believe that Jesus Christ was the divine clothed in human flesh.”

I don’t agree with the so called “Christians” who believe in the above superstitious creed of Jesus being God.

Jesus had not an iota of divinity in him; not a single attribute of God Allah YHWH was in Jesus. Jesus was a man through and through.
Jesus did not create a new Sun, a new Moon or a new Earth, literally.

Did he?

Everything remained the same as done by the Creator- God Allah YHWH since inception.

It is only a superstition of the followers of Paul called “Christians”- a misnomer, as they hardly believe anything Jesus or Mary believed in.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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Jesus made good his escape to India

January 23, 2010

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/jesus-had-no-claim-on-divinity/#comment-886

Aaron Says:

Hi again,

I agree with you that Deuteronomy 13 is relevant to the charge for which Jesus was condemned (along with other passages such as Leviticus 24:16).

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend Aaron

I thank you for acknowledging that the Jews tried to punish Jesus for his claim of Prophet-hood or Messenger-ship; and it was not for Jesus claiming any divinity which Jesus had never done in literal terms.
Jesus never claimed any literal divinity (being the Creator- God Allah YHWH) in him and he never showed any signs for that. Jesus did not create any Sun to make two Suns; or he did not create any more Moons to make them two moons or a further additional Earth where people could go and inhibit it ; everything remained the same as far the creation is concerned; there was no visible or invisible change in the Universe. Jesus only claimed being a Messenger or Prophet like so many before him.

Jesus could therefore not claim any deity for himself.
It is Paul who claimed it for Jesus only to be-fool the so called “Christians”. Paul frustrated the claim Jesus had made of a truthful Prophet Messenger. Paul on the face of it promoted Jesus from a Prophet Messenger to a god; and in reality with cunning-ness he deprived him of the both. He made Jesus a false Messenger Prophet by hanging him on the Cross with the purpose of dieing on the Cross; and thus receiving and acknowledging receipt and execution of the punishment prescribed by Moses for a false Prophet Messenger.

Since Jesus did not die on the Cross, after treatment in the tomb where he was laid, of his injuries inflicted on him on the Cross he made good his escape to India; so the basis carved by Paul for Jesus’ divinity never materialized.

Paul succeeded in be-fooling the Catholics Protestants; till such time this infamy put on Jesus by Paul was exposed by Muhammad when he exonerated Jesus of such wrongs by receiving a Word from the Creator-God Allah YHWH.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

Paul and the sinful gospel writers were not sure whether Jesus was a man or Son of Man or Son of Adam, or Son of God, or Son of Mary, or Word became flesh

May 11, 2009

Michelle says:

I want to make it abundantly clear that I do believe Jesus Christ is God and He is the only way to Heaven. I do believe in the Holy Bible as the final authority on life and truth – that God created mankind out of love for his pupose. God Almighty loves people with a passion that no other god has for humanity. Due to Adam and Eve’s sin, God raised up prophets to lead mankind to Him but mankind refused to acknowledge his/her wrongdoings and lived in constant wickedness which caused God pain. So God sent his only son Jesus who is perfect as a baby to live among humanity and to experience human life.

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend michelle

I think you are in the same confusion in which the cunning and sinful Paul was indulged for his own selfish motives. Paul and the sinful gospel writers were not sure whether Jesus was a man or Son of Man or Son of Adam, or Son of God, or Son of Mary, or Word became flesh, or Jesus was Mary’s husband; all mostly contradictory concepts, but since it served their selfish ends so they kept the people in perpetual confusion.

The Church also followed them with the same intentions and motives.

The distinction between Jesus and God was well understood among the disciples and the early Christians, as would be appreciated from the following:

For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ, Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. (Philippians 3:3)

But to us there is but one God, the Father of whom are all things, and we in Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ by whom are all things, and we by him. ( 1 Cor. 8:6)

Jesus himself brought out the distinction clearly in attributing divinity to God alone, who was also his God, as for instance:

Go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. (John 20:17)

-Muhammad Zafrullah Khan

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran not the one carved out of the thin air by cunning Paul and the sinful scribes

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslims

before Abraham was “I am” : a vague statement ascribed to Jesus

February 9, 2009

appolus Says:

Hi , Christians do not believe that Jesus was “a,” god, they believe that He was God Himself. He makes this claim many times in the New Testement, and in fact the Pharisees wanted to kill him for “blasphemy,” because He said that before Abraham was “I am.” The Pharisees knew full well he was claiming to be the great “I am,” and picked up stones to stone Him. Jesus either was who He said He was, or He was a madman. There can be no middle ground of “he was a prophet.”……….Frank

paarsurrey Says:

Hi

Just a claim does not make one what one claims. A lamb if claims to be a lion does not make him a lion. He could be symbolic lion among the so many lambs, being courageous; that is acceptable. If that lamb sometimes confronts a lion, then he would realize that his claim was not real.

I can understand that Jesus feared Jews, and rightly so, because they were not good people, only mischief mongers were they. So Jesus conveyed his message in metaphors or symbols.

I wonder whom Jesus-Catholic-god feared when he made just a vague claim “before Abraham was “I am”. Like a All-Powerful God, Jesus should have said I am Jesus your god, the creator of the heaven and earth. Jesus however opted to make a week statement.

I think he was enlightened by God Allah YHWH and in that sense he was also, like so many other Messengers, in the image of God; and in his obedience as a Messenger, God Allah YHWH pleased and in his disobedience God Allah YHWH displeased. So Jesus was, in my opinion, one of the Caliphs or Successors of God as do all other Messengers.

Jesus was nothing more than that in my opinion. Please don’t mind

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Adam and Eve.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Jesus distinct from God

November 17, 2008

Hi

The distinction between Jesus and God was well understood among the disciples and the early Christians, as would be appreciated from the following:

For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ, Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. (Philippians 3:3)

But to us there is but one God, the Father of whom are all things, and we in Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ by whom are all things, and we by him. ( 1 Cor. 8:6)

Jesus himself brought out the distinction clearly in attributing divinity to God alone, who was also his God, as for instance:

Go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. (John 20:17)

-Muhammad Zafrullah Khan

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics:

Divinity of Jesus- Sinful as per Quran

May 28, 2008
Quote:
One of my Christian friend says:
Yes, I think Muslims believe that Jesus was sinless (and Mary too), but the Muslims say that all prophets were sinless, including Muhammad.

Hi

There you are right, my Christian friend.
The ProtestantsCatholics believe divinity for Jesus; which is a sin as per Quran/Islam/Muhammad:

Quote:
[3:75] ‘He selects for His mercy whomsoever He pleases. And Allah is the Lord of mighty grace.’
[3:76] Among the People of the Book there is he who, if thou trust him with a treasure, will return it to thee; and among them is he who, if thou trust him with a dinar, will not return it to thee, unless thou keep standing over him. That is because they say, ‘We are not liable to be called to account in the matter of the Unlearned people;’ and they utter a lie against Allah knowingly.
[3:77] Nay, but whoso fulfils his pledge and fears Allah -verily, Allah loves those who fear Him.
[3:78] As for those who take a paltry price in exchange for their covenant with Allah and their oaths, they shall have no portion in the life to come, and Allah will neither speak to them nor look upon them on the Day of Resurrection, nor will He purify them; and for them shall be a grievous punishment.
[3:79] And, surely, among them is a party who twist their tongues while reciting the Book that you may think it to be part of the Book, while it is not part of the Book. And they say, ‘It is from Allah;’ while it is not from Allah; and they utter a lie against Allah while they know.
[3:80] It does not befit a truthful man that Allah should give him the Book and Wisdom and Prophethood, and then he should say to men, ‘Be my worshippers instead of Allah; but he would say, ‘Be solely devoted to the Lord because you teach the book and because you study it’.
[3:81] Nor does it befit him that he should bid you to take the angels and the Prophets for lords. What! Would he enjoin you to disbelieve after you have submitted to God.

[3:82] And remember the time when Allah took a covenant from the people through the Prophets, saying, ‘Whatever I give you of the Book and Wisdom and then there comes to you a Messenger, fulfilling that which is with you, you shall believe in him and help him.’ And He said, ‘Do you agree, and do you accept the responsibility which I lay upon you in this matter?’ They said, ‘We agree.’ He said, ‘Then bear witness and I am with you among the witnesses.’
[3:83] Now whoso turns away after this, then, surely, those are the transgressors.
[3:84] Do they seek a religion other than Allah’s, while to Him submits whosoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and to Him shall they all be returned?

It is for this that all Muslims say passionately that Jesus never claimed divinity; that would make him a sinful person. Alas! our Protestant freinds don’t realize and understand our view point.

I love Jesus and Muhammad.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics.

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One Response to “Divinity of Jesus- Sinful as per Quran”

  1. paarsee Says:
    May 20, 2008 at 5:45 am   editDear Paars’ay,Do you mean that Islam protected Jesus from becoming sinful? But christians say that he was the only sinless person and that he created the whole universe.Please tell if Jesus was created or he was the creator? Put some light please about his sinless life. Muslims and christians both believe that Jesus was sinless. What to do?? paarsee.

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