Posts Tagged ‘divinity of Jesus’

Sign of Jonah; the biggest Sign Jesus ever promised showing; could make him maximum a Prophet only and could not add divinity to Jesus

January 22, 2010

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/jesus-had-no-claim-on-divinity/#comment-864

Aaron Says:

If Jesus never claimed divinity then what was the charge for which the Jews found Him guilty and deserving of death by crucifixion?

paarsurrey Says:

Hi friend aaron

The Jews wanted to kill Jesus for his claim of being a prophet; and Jesus they held to be a false prophet and for this they hanged Jesus to further prove that Jesus was a cursed man also.

In the Old Testament

“If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, ‘Let us follow other gods’ (gods you have not known) ‘and let us worship them,’ you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The Lord your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the Lord your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the Lord your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you” (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NIV).

The penalty for false prophecy, according to the biblical context, is capital punishment (per Deuteronomy 13:1-5).

“But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death.”

Deuteronomy 21:22-23

22 When a man hath committed a crime for which he is to be punished with death, and being condemned to die is hanged on a gibbet: 23 His body shall not remain upon the tree, but shall be buried the same day: for he is accursed of God that hangeth on a tree: and thou shalt not defile thy land, which the Lord thy God shall give thee in possession.

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/05021.htm

Jonah was a Prophet of God Allah YHWH; if Jesus promised Jews to show them Sign of Jonah and he considered it to be his biggest sigh; then Jesus could only be a Prophet and not a god. This also shows that he considered himself to be only a Prophet of God Allah YHWH; and that is why God Allah YHWH saved Jesus life and after that Jesus went to India.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

Jesus said:”YOUR will, not mine, be done”

March 20, 2009

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/a-peaceful-man-that-muhammad-was/#comment-296

Paarsurrey replies to a Christian friend who commented on the above post thus:

Second reply:

Quote: Yahshua did not pray to YHWH to “save his life”. He prayed that “if there be another way, then take this cup from me, but YOUR will, not mine, be done”. Unquote

Hi friend modelbill.

I don’t agree with you. God’s must have done as God willed, whether Jesus wanted it or not. Just tell, me, if Jesus would have not said ‘YOUR will, not mine, be done” and God would have done what God had wanted, what was the other option for Jesus; absolute no, in my opinion. They say beggars have no choices; Jesus was in fact begging before God to save his life; Jesus had absolutely no other option. Jesus was praying from God and God accepted his prayers to save Jesus a cursed death on cross, which would have proven him a false Messenger Prophet as per Deuteronomy:

Please also note that the true disciples of Jesus were those who joined him in his journey towards India from Galilee and not those who had been disloyal to him and fled from the scene of Crucifixion of Jesus, at the hour of need; and Paul was but an enemy of Jesus and his friends, he mislead the followers of Jesus from Jesus’ acts and teachings.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

A Christian says: “He (Jesus) was human not a god”

March 20, 2009

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/a-peaceful-man-that-muhammad-was/#comment-296

Paarsurrey replies to a Christian friend who commented on the above post:

Hi friend modelbill.

First reply

I think yours is perhaps a confused statement. You say, “He (Jesus) was human not a god”; If you stick to it and accept Jesus was only a human and never a god. Then it would be a straightforward statement from you.

Kindly confirm it.

1. Was Jesus from the time he prayed in Gethsemane to the time he was delivered from the Cross, he was just a human being and not a god?
2. If yes, kindly be sure that he was never a god before he prayed in Gethsemane, from the time of Genesis.
3. Even after he was delivered from the Cross , he never ever became a god .

Please confirm it; you may take help from your friends, or they may themselves comment it here. Please don’t feel embarrassed, as this is only a discussion, not a debate; no compulsion whatsoever.

I love the Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran not the mythical ones presented by clever Paul.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Did the divinity of Jesus die on the cross?

February 8, 2009

Hi

Our ProtestantCatholic friends believe that Jesus was a god and man at the same time.

We know that Jesus died a natural and peaceful death in Kashmir, India. Jesus was though put on Cross but he survived with the grace of God Allah YHWH. May be it was the divinity of Jesus that died on Cross only; and the man Jesus was saved a cursed death on Cross.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Father Who Is In Heaven Listens To Jesus

July 23, 2008

Jesus said that father who is in heaven listens to him.

The Promised Messiah 1835-1908 commenting on this said:

The point in this is that God Almighty undoubtedly accepts prayers especially when His trustful servants, go to His door oppressed; He attends to their plaints, and helps them in strange ways. Of this I myself am a witness. Why is it then that the prayer of Jesus uttered in such agony was not accepted? No, it was accepted.

God saved him. God created circumstances on earth and in heaven to rescue him. John, the prophet Yahya, had had no time to pray, for his end had arrived, but Jesus had the whole night to pray, and he spent the whole night in prayer, standing and in prostration before God, for God had willed that he should give expression to his distress and should ask for his release from Him to Whom nothing was impossible. So the Lord, in accordance with His eternal practice, heard his prayer.

The Jews uttered a falsehood when, crucifying Jesus, they made the taunt that he relied upon God: why did not God save him? For God nullified all the designs of the Jews and saved His beloved Messiah from the Cross and the curse involved in it. The Jews had failed.

Among the testimonies of the gospel which have reached us is the verse from Matthew: ‘That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. Verily I say unto you, all these things shall come upon this generation’.

Now, if you think over these verses you will find that Jesus (peace be on him) clearly states that the killing of prophets by the Jews ceased with the prophet Zacharias, and that after that, the Jews would have no power to kill any prophet. This is a great prophecy which clearly points out that Jesus (peace be on him) was not killed as the result of crucifixion; he was rather saved from the Cross, dying ultimately a natural death.

For if Jesus (peace be on him) was also to suffer death by murder like Zacharias, at the hands of the Jews, he would have hinted in these verses at his own murder. If it is urged that Jesus (peace be on him) also was killed by the Jews but his being killed was not a sin on the Jews’ part, for Jesus’ death was of the nature of an atonement, the contention is hardly tenable, for in John, chap. 19, verse 11, Jesus clearly says that the Jews have been guilty of a great sin for having resolved to kill Jesus; and likewise, in many other places there is the clear hint that as a penalty for the crime of which they had been guilty against Jesus, they had deserved punishment in the sight of God.

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/ch1.html

while Jesus healed others, this preparation “ointment of Jesus” healed Jesus!

July 15, 2008

j2nice78 Says:
July 15, 2008 at 4:57 pm

“Let me be 100% clear here. I do not believe what the bible says just because it says it. I believe it because I have evaluated the evidence and have found it to consistent with what is contained in the bible.
Every religious writing in the world makes truth claims, that is why you have to look at evidence rather than just religious writings.
“Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.” – Albert Einstein
I am a God-fearing peaceful Christian”
“3. Let’s assume everyone was wrong and Jesus was alive when he went into the tomb, how on earth would a man who was so badly injured and bleeding still be alive thirty-six hours later? He would have bled to death.”

Paarsurrey Says:
Hi peaceful Christian!

First I would like to say, please don’t mind my opinion, that this is only a story or a mythical theological philosophy invented by Paul at Rome that Jesus died on the Cross. His entire philosophy is woven on this sigle point, to which he allured the Christians. Paul was not a witness to the event of crucifixion but he was smart at imagination; in any case this is not Word of revelation from the mouth of GodAllahYHWH and hence it should be seen in that perspective. A myth cannot be tested in a scientific lab, it has to be analysed systematically.

If a man is badly injured, and a good medicine is immediately available and the man is treated well; no wonders one gets cured. Please go to a hospital and see for yourself.It daily happens.
It is ointment of Jesus and Jesus’ prayers at the garden that healed injuries inflicted on Jesus on Cross.

Please don’t take it personally; we are just searching for truth.

Thanks

PromisedMessiah 1835-1908 Says:

On the evidence derived from books of medicine

A piece of evidence of great value with regard to the escape of Jesus from the Cross, which no one can help admitting, is a medical preparation known as Marham-i-Isa or the ‘Ointment of Jesus’ recorded in hundreds of medical books. Some of these books were compiled by Christians, some by Magians or Jews, some by Muslims. Most of them are very old. Investigations show that in the beginning the preparation came to be known as an oral tradition among hundreds of thousands of people. Then they recorded it.

At first, in the very time of Jesus, a little after the event of the Cross, a pharmaceutical work was compiled in Latin, in which there was a mention of this preparation along with the statement that the preparation had been prepared for the wounds of Jesus. Next, this work was translated into several languages, until, in the time of Mamun-al-Rashid, it was translated into Arabic.

It is, moreover, a strange result of divine intervention that eminent physicians of all religions — Christian, Jew, Magian, or Muslim — have all mentioned this preparation in their books, and have stated that it was prepared for Jesus by the disciples. A study of books on pharmacology shows that this preparation is very useful in cases of injuries due to blows or falls, arresting immediately the flow of blood; and as it also contains ‘myrrh’ the wound remains aseptic.

The ointment is also useful in plague; it is good for boils and ulcers of all kinds. It is, however, not clear whether the ointment was prepared, as a result of divine revelation, by Jesus himself after he had undergone the suffering of the Cross, or, that it was prepared after consultation with some physician. Some of its ingredients are like specifics; especially ‘myrrh’ which is mentioned also in the Torah. In any case, the wounds of Jesus healed up in a few days by the use of this ointment. Within three days he recovered sufficiently to be able to march seventy miles on foot from Jerusalem to Galilee. Hence, regarding the efficacy of this preparation it is enough to say that while Jesus healed others, this preparation healed Jesus!

The Books which record this fact number more than one thousand. To mention them all would be too long. As, moreover, the prescription is a famous one among the Yunani (i.e., those versed in ancient Greek medicine) physicians, I do not see any need to state the titles of all these books: I set down below the titles of only a few which are available here.

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/ch3.html
Unquote

I leave it open for the viewers to investigate and to see through the truth in the above.
Please feel free to comment for peaceful discussion and searching for the truth only.

I love Jesus, Mary and Muhammad.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Ointment of Jesus healed injuries inflicted on Jesus on Cross

July 15, 2008

Scott Thong Says:
July 11, 08

“I do not know where you got your information from, but I contend that it is inferior to the logic and proof of my arguments.”
“6) Even if Jesus was not 100% dead, the burial treatment would kill Him – 100 pounds of spices and preservatives were put into His open wounds, then His body was tightly wrapped like an Egyptian mummy!”

Paarsurrey Says:

In my opinion the source lies in the deep study of NTBible, only the PromisedMessiah 1838-1908, has by his logical arguments exposed the mythical philosophy of Paul. One finds no tradition of such exhorbitant amount of herbal fragrances applied on the dead body of a person. This was done by Nicodemus, a physician and his companions who were friends of Jesus. They were smart enough not to bury Jesus in a grave as they knew he was alive lest he get suffocated, so they laid him in spacious tomb and applied the herbs for treatment of Jesus. When Jesus got cured of his injuries inflicted on him on the Cross, they helped him to unwrap the coverings and to get out of the tomb.They were the “angels” who were seen by the women, in my opinion.

PromisedMessiah 1835-1908 Says:

On the evidence derived from books of medicine

A piece of evidence of great value with regard to the escape of Jesus from the Cross, which no one can help admitting, is a medical preparation known as Marham-i-Isa or the ‘Ointment of Jesus’ recorded in hundreds of medical books. Some of these books were compiled by Christians, some by Magians or Jews, some by Muslims. Most of them are very old. Investigations show that in the beginning the preparation came to be known as an oral tradition among hundreds of thousands of people. Then they recorded it.

At first, in the very time of Jesus, a little after the event of the Cross, a pharmaceutical work was compiled in Latin, in which there was a mention of this preparation along with the statement that the preparation had been prepared for the wounds of Jesus. Next, this work was translated into several languages, until, in the time of Mamun-al-Rashid, it was translated into Arabic.

It is, moreover, a strange result of divine intervention that eminent physicians of all religions — Christian, Jew, Magian, or Muslim — have all mentioned this preparation in their books, and have stated that it was prepared for Jesus by the disciples. A study of books on pharmacology shows that this preparation is very useful in cases of injuries due to blows or falls, arresting immediately the flow of blood; and as it also contains ‘myrrh’ the wound remains aseptic.

The ointment is also useful in plague; it is good for boils and ulcers of all kinds. It is, however, not clear whether the ointment was prepared, as a result of divine revelation, by Jesus himself after he had undergone the suffering of the Cross, or, that it was prepared after consultation with some physician. Some of its ingredients are like specifics; especially ‘myrrh’ which is mentioned also in the Torah. In any case, the wounds of Jesus healed up in a few days by the use of this ointment. Within three days he recovered sufficiently to be able to march seventy miles on foot from Jerusalem to Galilee. Hence, regarding the efficacy of this preparation it is enough to say that while Jesus healed others, this preparation healed Jesus!

The Books which record this fact number more than one thousand. To mention them all would be too long. As, moreover, the prescription is a famous one among the Yunani (i.e., those versed in ancient Greek medicine) physicians, I do not see any need to state the titles of all these books: I set down below the titles of only a few which are available here.

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/ch3.html

I leave it open for the viewers to investigate and to see through the truth in the above.

Please feel free to comment for peaceful discussion and searching for the truth only.

I love Jesus, Mary and Muhammad.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Tribulation on Cross could not break Jesus will; Jesus survived death on Cross

July 14, 2008

http://wetfoot.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/life-and-death/#comment-9

wtb1 said 1 day ago:

Thank you for your comments. I do have to respectfully disagree with you in the fact of the death of Jesus. The Romans had perfected the art of killing and the soldiers at that time were very efficient. I am sure they had seen death many times and the executioners I am sure had seen it on a very regular basis.

Let us remember what all Jesus went through on the day of his death. He had been up all night in mock trial after mock trial. He had been beaten and mocked. He under went a scourging of 39 lashes with a whip. This was no bull whip. The whip used by the Romans had 7 to 9 “tails”. On the end of each tail was a metal weight. The length of each “tail” was studded with bits of metal and bone.
When a person was hit with the scourge, the bits of metal and bone would sink in to the flesh of the one being scourged and the metal weights would slam into the body creating bruising and possibly broken ribs. As the whip was pulled free of the prisoner, the bits of metal and flesh would tear away pieces of flesh and meat. Lacerations down to the bone could occur. Now image 39 of those strikes onto the back and sides of one man.

After the scourging His (Jesus) back would have been a bloody mass of torn muscle and skin. Blood loss would have been substantial. Then a cloak of purple was placed to cover the bloody mess of His back. He was then made to carry the cross member his hands (wrists more than likely) would have been nailed to through Jerusalem and to the site of the execution. At this point in time exhaustion and blood loss would be taking its toll on anyone.
At the site of Calvary, the robe was ripped off His back reopening the wounds from the scourging. Crucifixion was deliberately designed to kill with the utmost in suffering. Nails (think of a railrod spike about 9 inches long) triangular in shape were driven into wrists right below the palms. Another nail driven through the feet at the ankles. Horrendous suffering and pain as the cross was brutally lifted up and dropped into the hole.

Crucifixion killed primarily by asphyxiation. Since a person was hanging from their arms their chest could not expand to draw in air. In order to breath, Jesus would have to bear his full weight on the single nail through His ankles and “stand” to relieve the pressure on His chest by his arms. A breath or two would be taken then the person on the cross would once again hang from his arms. This would go on until the person could stand no more on the nail and eventually could not breath.
This was why the legs were broken to bring about a more speedy death. As the Romans came around inspecting the prisoners that day they broke the legs of the two criminal beside Jesus, but when they got to Jesus they did not (a fulfillment of Old Testament prophesy).

A spear was plunged into his side and went all the way to the heart. “An issue of blood and water” came out of the hole.
To the Romans, there was no doubt as to the death of Jesus. I think that with their experience they would have been able to identify death when it occurred.
I have often heard the swoon theory but because of the facts stated above I have a very hard time believing Jesus simply passed out and revived later in the tomb.


Paarsurrey
says:

Hi

I can understand your viewpoint about Jesus’ tribulations on the Cross. He was an innocent man and should have not been punished by anyone; here I do agree with you but we should not forget that Jesus was a young and sturdy man of 6 feet height and if others hanged on Cross with him did not die, there is every reason to believe that Jesus also must had lived through, in all probability.

What happened to Jesus on that day related to crucifixion, I give hereunder in the words of the PromisedMessiah 1835-1908:

Readers should not be under any misconception: the Cross of the Jews was not like the hangman’s noose of to-day from which deliverance alive is nearly impossible, for the Cross of those days had no rope to be put round the neck of the victim, nor was he subjected to a fall from a wooden plank and allowed to keep hanging; rather, he was just put on the Cross, and his hands and feet were nailed to it; and it was quite possible that if, after crucifying a person and driving nails into him, it was decided — in a day or two — to forgive him and spare his life, he was taken down alive before his bones had been broken, the punishment already undergone being deemed sufficient for him.

If it was decided to kill him, he was kept on the Cross at least for three days; water or bread was not allowed to come near him, and he was left in this condition in the sun for three or more days, when his bones were broken and ultimately as a result of this torture he died. But the grace of Almighty God rescued Jesus from this torture which would have ended his life. Reading the gospel with care will show that Jesus (on whom be peace) did not remain on the Cross for three days; he did not have to suffer hunger or thirst for three days; nor were his bones broken. On the other hand, he remained on the Cross only for two hours, and the grace and mercy of God managed to bring about the crucifixion in the latter part of the day, which was a Friday, only a little time before sunset, the next day being the Sabbath, the feast Fasah of the Jews. According to Jewish custom it was unlawful and a punishable crime to let anyone remain on the Cross on the Sabbath day, or during the night previous to it; Jews, like Muslims, observed the lunar calendar, sunset being regarded as beginning the day.

So, on the one hand, there was this circumstance which arose out of earthly causes, and, on the other, Almighty God brought into existence heavenly circumstances, namely, that when it was the sixth hour, there was a severe dust-storm which darkened the earth for three hours.6 This sixth hour was after twelve o’clock, i.e., close to the evening. Now, the Jews were afraid in this utter darkness, lest the night of the Sabbath should overtake them, and lest, having violated the sanctity of the Sabbath, they should deserve to be punished.

Therefore, in all haste they took Jesus and the two thieves off their Crosses. In addition to all this, there was another heavenly cause, namely, that when Pilate presided at his court, his wife sent word to him not to have anything to do with that righteous person (i.e., not to attempt to punish him with death), for, she said, she had had a dream that night, which had troubled her very much.

So, this angel, whom the wife of Pilate saw in her dream, would assure us and all fair-minded people, with certainty, that God had never intended that Jesus should die on the Cross. From the day of the creation of this world, never has it occurred that God should suggest to a person in a dream that a particular thing would happen in a certain way, and still that thing should fail to happen. For example, the gospel of Matthew says that an angel of the Lord came to Joseph in a dream and said, ‘Arise and take the young child and the mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him’.

Now, can anyone say that Jesus could be killed in Egypt? Similarly the dream which the wife of Pilate dreamt was a part of God’s design, and it could never be that this design should fail in its object; and just as the possibility of Jesus being put to death during the Egyptian journey was against a specific promise of God, so here it is unthinkable that the angel of Almighty God should appear to the wife of Pilate and should direct her to say that if Jesus died on the Cross it would not be a happy thing for her, and yet the angel’s appearance should go in vain, and Jesus should be allowed to suffer death on the Cross.

Is there any example of this in the world? None. The pure conscience of all good men, when informed of the dream of Pilate’s wife, will no doubt testify that it was a fact that the purpose of that dream was to lay the foundation for the rescue of Jesus. It is of course open to everybody to deny an out-and-out truth; out of prejudice born of his creed, he may refuse to accept it, but fairness would oblige us to believe that the dream of Pilate’s wife is a piece of weighty evidence in support of Jesus’ escape from the Cross. The first in rank among the gospels, i.e., Matthew, has recorded this evidence.

Although, therefore, the powerful evidence which I shall set out in this book invalidates the divinity of Jesus and the doctrine of Atonement, yet honesty and love of fairness require us not to be partial to a communal or customary creed on a question of fact. From the day of the creation of man up till to-day the limited intellect of man has invested a thousand things with Divinity and Godhead, so much so that even cats and snakes have been worshipped; nevertheless wise people, through heaven’s help, have continued to be saved from the evil of such polytheistic beliefs.
http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/ch1.html
Kindly read the above book to catch the correct scenario of crucifixion.

I respect your faith.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Jesus was no sinner – an accursed person as held by Paul

July 5, 2008

First I would like to copy/paste here a post from our friend Justin and my response to him.Please don’t mind it. It is only in search for truth; else I respect the Christian religion and I love Jesus and Mary.

1. Justin Says:
July 4, 2008 at 4:33 pm edit
Islam will provide no shelter for you as a sinner. Have you ever told a lie, stolen something, or looked with lust? Then you would be guilty. See http://www.livingwaters.com/good to take the “Good Test”. Perhaps you could ever write a blog post about this test and what you think.

2. paarsurrey Says:
July 5, 2008 at 12:00 am edit
Hi
I admit, even witout writing this test, that I am a sinner. My question is who prepared this test and similiar other tests I have seen? Did Jesus prepare this test for the sinners? I don’t think he prepared it for me or you. If you are not a sinner; I congratulate you, I am not jealous of you. Now what should a sinner like me do or an innocent person like you should do? Kindly quote from Quran, OTBible or NTBible separately in this connection. The cure from sin is very important, I do agree with you.
Please don’t mind.
I love Moses, Jesus, Mary and Muhammad.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

While my friend has asked me to write a blogpost on sins.

My humble submission is that it is Paul who invented the theological philosophy that Jesus was an accursed person- a sinner, who died on Cross, for the atonement of the sins of the CatholicsProtestants and other Christians; never realizing the inner obvious contradictions lying hidden under this doctrine. Jesus would never say such a thing; it is a pure sinful imagination of Paul in my opinion. The sins of a person have no direct relationship with dieing of another person.

This was a cocept of the Christians for centuries; till such time that the PromisedMessiah 1835-1908 pointed it out and rescued Jesus from it and proved that Jesus never died on Cross and he could not die as Jesus was an innocent person, not an accursed person who would have died on Cross. I give hereunder an argument given by him for the benefit of our Christian friends and brothers:

“Apart from this, it was necessary that he should escape death on the cross, for it was stated in the Holy Book that whoever was hanged on the wood was accursed. It is a cruel and an unjust blasphemy to attribute a curse to an eminent person like Jesus, the Messiah, for, according to the agreed view of all who know the language, la’nat, or curse, has reference to the state of one’s heart. A man would be said to be accursed when his heart, having been estranged from God, becomes really dark; when, deprived of divine mercy and of divine love, devoid absolutely of His Knowledge, blinded like the devil, he becomes filled with the poison of unbelief; when there remains not a ray of divine love and knowledge in him; when the bond of loyalty is broken, and between him and God there arises hatred and contempt and spite and hostility, so much so that God and he become mutual enemies; and when God becomes weary of him and he becomes weary of God; in short, when he becomes an heir to all the attributes of the Devil — and that is why the Devil himself is called accursed.

It is clear that the significance of the word Mal’un, viz. accursed, is so foul that it can never apply to any righteous person who entertains love of God in his heart. Alas! Christians did not ponder over the significance of a curse when they invented this belief; else, it were impossible for them to have used such a bad word for a righteous man like Jesus. Can we say that Jesus’ heart was ever really estranged from God; that he had denied God, that he hated Him and had become His enemy? Can we ever think that Jesus had ever felt in his heart that he was estranged from God, that he was an enemy of God, and that he was immersed in the darkness of unbelief and denial? If, then, Jesus had never been in such a state of mind, that his heart was always full of love and the light of Divine Knowledge, is it for you, wise people, to ponder whether we can ever say that, not one, but thousands of curses from God had descended upon the heart of Jesus with all their evil significance? Never.

Then, how can we say that he was, God forbid, accursed? It is a pity that once a man has given utterance to something, when he has taken his stand upon a particular belief, he is not inclined to give up that belief, however much the absurdity thereof be exposed. Desire to attain salvation, if grounded upon true foundations, is a praiseworthy thing, but where is the sense in having a desire for salvation which kills truth and which countenances, regarding a holy prophet arid a perfect man, the belief that he had as it were passed through a state in which he had been estranged from God, and in which, instead of unity of heart and unity of inclination, there had been produced a strangeness and aloofness, enmity and hatred; and, instead of light, darkness had surrounded his heart?

Let it also be noticed that this not only detracts from the prophethood and apostleship of Jesus (on whom be the peace of God) but it is also derogatory to his claim to spiritual eminence, holiness, love, and knowledge of God, to which he has repeatedly given expression in the gospels.

Just look through the Bible; therein Jesus clearly claims that he is the Light of the world, that he is the Guide, and that he stands in a relation of great love towards God; that he has been honoured by a clean birth, and that he is the loved Son of God. How then, in spite of these pure and holy relations, can a curse, with all its significance, be attributed to Jesus? No, never.

Therefore, there is no doubt that Jesus was not crucified, i.e., he did not die on the Cross, for his personality did not deserve the underlying consequence of death on the Cross. Not having been crucified, he was spared the impure implications of a curse, and no doubt it also proves that he did not go to heaven, for going to heaven formed part of this whole scheme and was a consequence of the idea of his having been crucified. Therefore, when it is proved that he was neither accursed, nor did he go to hell for three days, nor did he suffer death the other part of the scheme, namely, that he went to heaven, is proved to be wrong.”
http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/ch1.html


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Jesus did not die a cursed death on Cross

July 4, 2008

Jesus did not die a cursed death on Cross
And hence, therefore, there is no Jesus’ resurrection from the dead. The entire Christian myth is based on this belief. Our CatholicProtestant friends have rightly acknowledged the logic behind this in words of no less a person than Paul who happened to invent this theological philosophy at Rome when Jesus was alive but on his way to India; Jesus was in exile.

This point, that if there is no Jesus’ death on cross, there is no resurrection from the dead and divinity of Jesus gets falsifiedis well established by the following website:
http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/resurrection-of-christ.htm

And we quote:

“Resurrection of Christ – Establishing the Importance
The resurrection of Christ is the linchpin of the Christian faith — the historical event upon which Christian doctrine stands or falls. The apostle Paul makes this clear in his first letter to the Corinthians: But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is futile and your faith is empty. … For if only in this life we have hope in Christ, we should be pitied more than anyone (1 Cor. 15:13-14, 19).”

The things were like this till GodAllahYHWH revealed the truth on Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Quadiani 1835-1908 that Jesus son of Mary had died and that he was the PromisedMessiah. The Second Coming of Jesus has taken place in his person metaphorically, and no one else would be coming literally and physically.

With this he was informed of the arguments of Jesus not dieing on Cross; from Quran, NTBible, History, and Medical etc. The evidences already existed in these scriptures only these were hidden from the eyes. The PromisedMessiah 1835-1908 brought them into the light and now everyone could see them. In fact this is the doctrine on which rests the peace of the world. Jews, Christians and Muslim have stakes in it.

The PromisedMessiah 1835-1908 has explained himself the importance of Jesus not dieing on Cross in his book “Jesus in India”:
http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/index.html

I have written this book, so that, by adducing proofs from established facts, from conclusive historical evidence of proved value and from ancient documents of non-Muslims, I might remove the serious misconceptions which are current among Muslims and among most Christian sects regarding the earlier and the later life of Jesus (on whom be peace) – misconceptions, the dangerous implications of which have not only injured and destroyed the conception of Divine Unity, but the unwholesome and poisonous influence of which has for long been noticed in the morals of the Muslims of this country. Spiritual maladies, i.e., want of good morals, evil thoughts, callousness, want of sympathy, are spreading among most Islamic sects, being the result of beliefs in unfounded stories and anecdotes of this kind. Human sympathy, pity and love of justice, humility and humble-mindedness – all good qualities – are disappearing day by day, as if they will soon bid a last farewell to this community.

This callousness and this immorality make many a Muslim appear no better than the beasts of the jungle. A Jain or a Buddhist is afraid of and avoids killing even a mosquito or a flea, but, alas! there are many among us Muslims who, while they kill an innocent man or commit wanton murder, are not afraid of the powerful God, who rates human life higher than that of all the animals.

What is this callousness and cruelty and want of sympathy due to? It is due to this – that from their very childhood, stories and anecdotes and wrong views of the doctrine of Jihad are dinned into their ears and inculcated into their hearts, the result being that gradually they become morally dead and cease to feel the heinousness of their hateful actions; nay, rather, the man who murders another man unawares and thus brings ruin to the murdered man’s family thinks that he has done a meritorious deed; or rather, that he has made the most of an opportunity to win favour with his community.

As no lectures or sermons are delivered in our country to stop such evils – and if there are any such lectures they have an element of hypocrisy in them – the common people think approvingly of such misdeeds. Accordingly, taking pity upon my own people, I have compiled several books in Urdu, Persian and Arabic, in which I have stated that the popular view of Jihad prevalent among Muslims, that is, the expectation of a bloody Imam, full of spite and hostility for other people, is a texture of false beliefs inculcated by shortsighted Ulema; otherwise, Islam does not allow the use of the sword for the Faith; except in the case of defensive wars, or in the case of wars waged to punish a tyrant or to uphold freedom.

The need of a defensive war arises when the aggression of an adversary threatens one’s own life. These are the three kinds of Jihad permitted by the Shariat, and, apart from these three kinds, there is no other kind of war which is permitted by Islam for the propagation of the Faith.
http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/intro.html