Posts Tagged ‘devil’

Pope Francis: Where Mary is, ‘the devil does not enter’

January 28, 2018

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-francis-where-mary-is-the-devil-does-not-enter-40315

Courtesy :https://flipboard.com/topic/religion

paarsurrey comments:

It is just Pope’s opinion. Jesus did not say anything like that. Pope should have quoted something from Jesus in support of his assertion.

“Evolution Of The Devil”

January 28, 2018

“Evolution Of The Devil”

Jan 28, 2018 by Devdutt Pattanaik

https://www.mid-day.com/articles/devdutt-pattanaik-evolution-of-the-devil/18986193

Paarsurrey says:

It is a wrong notion. The source of truthful revealed religion is “Revelation” from the One-True-God whatever the religion. The Buddhism and the Hinduism or Christian or Judaism scriptures don’t have presently the original Revelation  intact with them , to infer from them the “Evolution of the Devil” cannot be correct. To get the correct concept one should read Quran.

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“Who caused Satan or the devil rebel”?

May 6, 2015

One may view my post on<www.religiousforums.com> and comment on it even if one differs with me.

Post #520

Paarsurrey wrote:Angels have been created for promoting good thoughts in humans.
Satan has been created for promoting evil thoughts in humans.
Humans decide as to what they have to do good or evil.
Satan was never an angel.
It is in nature of Satan to rebel.

Regards

http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/who-caused-satan-or-the-devil-rebel.169462/page-26#post-4276441

One-True-God; He is the Gracious the Merciful; very truly

March 19, 2014

http://thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/the-omnimalevolent-creator-and-the-problem-of-good/
http://findingtruth.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/the-omnimalevolent-creator-and-the-problem-of-good/
http://findingtruth.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/the-omnimalevolent-creator-and-the-problem-of-good/#comment-8801

paarsurrey
March 19, 2014 at 5:14 pm

@Nate : March 12, 2014 at 9:30 am

Hi

“The problem this creates for Christianity, which is what eSell was saying, is that the Bible has set bounds for God: all-good, all-knowing, all-powerful, wants all to be saved, etc. These characteristics run completely counter to the world we see around us.”

The concept of the attributes of the One-True-God is in line with what, I think, you have described.
Over all He is the *Gracious the *Merciful and hence the introductory verse in the beginning of Quran has been repeated in the start of almost every chapter of Quran.

*[1:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=1

And He has set scheme of evolution in such a way that life is meant to receive due rewards from Him if one does positive or good deeds, else one suffers. He mention that “He has taken upon Himself to show **mercy”.

**[6:13] Say, ‘To whom belongs what is in the heavens and the earth?’ Say, ‘To Allah.’ He has taken upon Himself to show mercy. He will certainly continue to assemble you till the Day of Resurrection. There is no doubt in it. Those who ruin their souls will not believe.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?submitCh=Read+from+verse%3A&ch=6&verse=12

As the One-True-God bestowed consciousness or life to us drawing it out from death (annihilation or from a state of non-being to the state of a being); as a shadow of his unblemished attributes; if we sin due to temptation, we have to suffer.

The reward being everlasting (Heaven) the punishment (hell) is relatively also for a long time. The shadow or the evil temptation has been named as Devil or Satan for our understanding. Like we humans name typhoons. Everybody knows that a typhoon or a cyclone is not a living being; if I have correctly understood.

How is a typhoon named?
http://www.cwb.gov.tw/V7e/knowledge/encyclopedia/ty005.htm

One may like to read the following essay on “The Question of Suffering” by Mirza Tahir Ahmad

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/revelation/part_2_section_6.html

Many of the attributes of the One-True-God (Allah Yahweh Ahura-Mazda Parmeshawara Ishawara) are therefore expressed in reciprocals for our understanding. All work within the bigger circle of The Gracious and The Merciful; with perfect cohesion.

Thanks and regards

Did the Buddha experience dukkha?

April 17, 2012

Question :Did the Buddha experience dukkha?

Paarsurrey answers:

I think Buddha did experience dukka or suffering; every righteous person has to go through tribulations/sufferings/dukkas but with constant combating with them and with the prayers and seeking help from the Creator God he is empowered to conquer them; that is what Buddha described the Mara/devil/evil took flight from him and he became enlightened. Thus his suffering became pleasure for him.

The Gospel of Buddha-Chapter-12

Enlightenment

The Bodhisatta, having put Mara to flight,
gave himself up to meditation.
All the miseries of the world, the evils produced by evil deeds
and the sufferings arising there from,
passed before his mental eye, and he thought: [1]

http://reluctant-messenger.com/gospel_buddha/chapter_12.htm

Satan has no absolute power on humans

December 12, 2011

It is a wrong concept to believe that Satan or devil has absolute power on the human beings; one should see the following verse:

[14:23] And when the matter is decided, Satan will say, ‘Allah promised you a promise of truth, but I promised you and failed you. And I had no power over you except that I called you and you obeyed me. So blame me not, but blame your own selves. I cannot succour you nor can you succour me. I have already disclaimed your associating me with God. For the wrongdoers there shall, surely, be a grievous punishment.’

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=14&verse=22

First Vision: Witout proper introduction, identifications and verifications; Joseph Smith mistook the personages

June 12, 2009

Markparker1 says:

Where do you get the information you base this belief on?

I know what the Holy Ghost feels like, I know it, the scriptures say that the Holy Ghost is sent directly from the Father, and he testifies of truth, I know there is a connection between the Prophet Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon and Heaven, the Heavens testify to it.

Paarsurrey says:

It is right from the First Vision of Joseph Smith which you posted to me. If Jesus could be tried by the Devil for forty days; Joseph Smith could not be any exception.

Jesus told Jews that they were Sons of the Devil; it is mentioned in John 8.

Witout proper introduction and verifications; Joseph Smith mistook the personages. It is his mistake not mines.
When Moses met God Allah YHWH; He properly introduced himself to Moses; and Moses saw no Son with Him:

[20:9] ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ‌ۖ لَهُ ٱلۡأَسۡمَآءُ ٱلۡحُسۡنَىٰ
[20:9] Allah — there is no God but He. His are the most beautiful names.

[20:10] وَهَلۡ أَتَٮٰكَ حَدِيثُ مُوسَىٰٓ
[20:10] And has the story of Moses come to thee?

[20:11] إِذۡ رَءَا نَارً۬ا فَقَالَ لِأَهۡلِهِ ٱمۡكُثُوٓاْ إِنِّىٓ ءَانَسۡتُ نَارً۬ا لَّعَلِّىٓ ءَاتِيكُم مِّنۡہَا بِقَبَسٍ أَوۡ أَجِدُ عَلَى ٱلنَّارِ هُدً۬ى
[20:11] When he saw a fire, he said to his family, ‘Tarry ye, I perceive a fire; perhaps I may bring you a brand therefrom or find guidance at the fire.’

[20:12] فَلَمَّآ أَتَٮٰهَا نُودِىَ يَـٰمُوسَىٰٓ
[20:12] And when he came to it, he was called by a voice, ‘O Moses,
[20:13] إِنِّىٓ أَنَا۟ رَبُّكَ فَٱخۡلَعۡ نَعۡلَيۡكَ‌ۖ إِنَّكَ بِٱلۡوَادِ ٱلۡمُقَدَّسِ طُوً۬ى
[20:13] ‘Verily, I am thy Lord. So take off thy shoes; for thou art in the sacred Valley of Tuwa.

[20:14] وَأَنَا ٱخۡتَرۡتُكَ فَٱسۡتَمِعۡ لِمَا يُوحَىٰٓ
[20:14] ‘And I have chosen thee; so hearken to what is revealed.

[20:15] إِنَّنِىٓ أَنَا ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّآ أَنَا۟ فَٱعۡبُدۡنِى وَأَقِمِ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ لِذِڪۡرِىٓ
[20:15] ‘Verily, I am Allah; there is no God beside Me. So serve Me, and observe Prayer for My remembrance.

[20:16] إِنَّ ٱلسَّاعَةَ ءَاتِيَةٌ أَكَادُ أُخۡفِيہَا لِتُجۡزَىٰ كُلُّ نَفۡسِۭ بِمَا تَسۡعَىٰ
[20:16] ‘Surely, the Hour is coming; I am going to manifest it, that every soul may be recompensed for its endeavour.

[20:17] فَلَا يَصُدَّنَّكَ عَنۡہَا مَن لَّا يُؤۡمِنُ بِہَا وَٱتَّبَعَ هَوَٮٰهُ فَتَرۡدَىٰ
[20:17] ‘So let not him who believes not therein and follows his own evil inclinations, turn thee away therefrom, lest thou perish.

[20:18] وَمَا تِلۡكَ بِيَمِينِكَ يَـٰمُوسَىٰ
[20:18] ‘And what is that in thy right hand, O Moses?’

Muhammad showed more than three thousand miracles and made countless prophecies

May 17, 2009

~And Jesus even suffered death, despite being called ‘God’! Does God ever die?
~Jesus does not know the hour of Resurrection, and his statement to this effect is recorded in the Gospels
~It is quite probable that the books they call forged or fabricated are not fabricated at all, and the ones they consider to be authentic may, in fact, be fabricated.
~ If God is still Living as He was before, and if He still speaks and hears as He did in the past, then why should He have observed such silence in this age as if He did not exist?

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, the Promised Messiah, the Second Coming says:
How strange
that the devil subdued ‘the Son of God’ and inclined him
towards the world! And Jesus even suffered death, despite
being called ‘God’! Does God ever die? And if it was only
a man who had died, then why do they claim that ‘the Son
of God’ gave up his life for the sake of mankind?

What is
more, despite being ‘the Son of God’, Jesus does not know
the hour of Resurrection, and his statement to this effect is
recorded in the Gospels. How absurd for God not to know
the hour of Resurrection! That may be a distant event, but
he was not even aware that the fig-tree he was heading for
was barren!

Returning to the main discussion, let me briefly say that
no Divine revelation can be attacked merely on the basis
of its similarity, or partial-similarity, to a past book or account,
even if that book or account is considered to be
fictitious. When the Christians label a book as ‘historical’
or ‘revealed’, they do so without any substantial proof, and
none of their books are free from the stains of doubt and
suspicion.

It is quite probable that the books they call
forged or fabricated are not fabricated at all, and the ones
they consider to be authentic may, in fact, be fabricated.
A book of God cannot be subject to such likes and dislikes.
Their labelling of certain books as fictitious is not
something that has been proven by judicial inquiry, nor
is it on the basis of established evidence that they declare
a book to be authentic.

It is all based on speculation and
conjecture, which cannot be the criterion for judging a
book of God. The true criterion is whether the book
proves its Divine origin through God’s law of nature*
and through powerful signs. Our Lord and Master, the
Holy Prophet showed more than three thousand miracles
and made countless prophecies.

But we do not have
to refer to these miracles of the past, for, a great miracle
of the Holy Prophet is that, while the revelation of all
the Prophets have come to an end, and their miracles are
a thing of the past, and their followers are empty-handed
but for a few fictitious tales, the revelation of the Holy
Prophet (Muhammad, sa) has not ended, nor have his miracles, for they
continue to be manifested in his perfect followers
through the blessing of their obedience to him.

This is
why Islam is the living religion and its God is the Living
God. Today, I, His humble servant, am here to bear testimony
to this. Thousands of signs, testifying to the truth
of the Prophet of God and the Book of God, have so far
been manifested through me, and God blesses me with
His pure word almost every day. Think carefully, how
can we prove that a religion is actually from God while
there are thousands of religions in this world that attribute
themselves to Him?

Should a true religion not have
some distinction? The fact that a religion is rational cannot
be a proof of its being from God, for man, too, can
speak of rational things. And the ‘God’ who is only a
creation of man’s own reason is no God at all; God is He
Who manifests Himself through powerful signs. A truly
Divine religion must possess signs of being from God,
and it must possess the Divine seal to prove that it has
indeed come from Him, and this religion is none other
than Islam.

It is through this religion that God, Who is hidden and invisible,
comes to be known, and it is to the followers of
this religion that He manifests Himself. He supports the
true religion and manifests His existence to the world
through it. Religions that are only based on tales are
hardly distinguishable from idol-worship, for they are devoid
of the spirit of truth.

If God is still Living as He was
before, and if He still speaks and hears as He did in the
past, then why should He have observed such silence in
this age as if He did not exist? If He does not speak today,
then surely He does not hear either, which means that He
practically does not exist. Hence the true religion is that
which testifies that God hears and speaks even in this age.
In the true religion, God Himself informs about His existence
through His dialogue and communion.

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/Fountain-of-Christianity-20080505MN.pdf

A clear prophecy in Buddhist faith of coming of Jesus in India

May 14, 2009

~The charge that the Buddha did not believe in God is a pure fabrication.
~The Buddha did not believe in Vedanta and in corporeal Gods of the Hindus.

The Promised Messiah 1835-1908says:

The story of Genesis as stated in books of the Buddhist faith has a great resemblance to the same story given in the Torah. Just as according to the Torah man is considered superior to woman, so, in the religion of the Buddha, a monk is considered superior to a nun. It may be observed, however, that the Buddha believed in the transmigration of souls, but his transmigration is not opposed to the teaching of the Gospels.

According to the Buddha, transmigration is of three kinds: (1) that the dying man’s actions and efforts necessitate the coming into being of another body; (2) the kind of transmigration which the Tibetans believe to be operative among the Lamas, i.e., some part of the spirit of some Buddha or Buddha Satwa transmigrates into the Lama for the time being; which means that his power, temper and spiritual qualities are transferred into such a Lama and that his spirit begins to animate the latter; (3) that in this very life man goes through different creations — there comes a time when he is, as it were, a bull; when he grows in greed and evil, he becomes a dog, the first existence dying out, giving rise to another corresponding to the quality of his actions; all these changes, however, take place in this very life. This creed is not opposed to the teaching of the gospels.

I have already stated that the Buddha also believes in the existence of the Devil, so he also believes in hell and heaven, in angels and in the Day of Judgment. The charge that the Buddha did not believe in God is a pure fabrication. The Buddha did not believe in Vedanta and in corporeal Gods of the Hindus. He criticises the Vedas a great deal. He does not believe in the existing Vedas. He regards them as corrupt and interpolated. The period during which he was a Hindu and a follower of the Vedas, he regards as the period of evil birth.

For example, he hints that for a time he was a monkey; again for a time, an elephant; then a deer, and a dog; four times a snake, and then a sparrow, then a frog; twice a fish, ten times a tiger, four times a fowl, twice a pig, and once a hare, and that at the time he was a hare he used to teach the monkeys, the jackals, the water-dogs; again, he says that he was a ghost; once, a woman, a dancer and the Devil. All these hints are meant to point to phases of life full of cowardice, of womanish behaviour, of impurity and savagery, of profligacy, gluttony, and superstition. It appears that in this way he points to the time when he was a follower of the Vedas, for, after abandoning the latter he gives no hint of any trace of an evil life still persisting in him. On the other hand, he then makes great claims; he said that he had become a manifestation of god and had attained Nirwana.

The Buddha also states that the man who goes from the world taking hellish actions with him is thrown into hell, sentinels of hell drag him towards the King of Hell, called Yamah, and the condemned one is then asked whether he had not seen the Five Messengers who had been sent to warn him: Childhood — Old Age — Disease — Being punished for one’s guilt in this very life, a proof of the punishment of the hereafter — Dead bodies which point to the destructibility of the universe. The condemned one replies that he had been a fool, he had not thought over any of these things. The Guardians of hell then drag him to the place of chastisement and fasten him with iron chains red-hot like fire. The Buddha, moreover, says that hell has several regions into which sinners of different categories would be cast. In short, all this teaching cries out loudly that the Buddhist religion is indebted to the personal influence of Jesus.
I do not, however, propose to go on with this discussion.

I close this section here, for when there is a clear prophecy, stated in books of the Buddhist faith, about the coming of Jesus to his country — a prophecy which no one can deny — when the parables and the moral teaching of the Gospels are to be found in books of the Buddhist faith compiled in Jesus’ time — both these considerations combined do not leave any doubt about the coming of Jesus to this country. The evidence, therefore, for which we had set out to make a search through Buddhistic records has been completely recovered — thanks to Almighty God.
http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/ch4.html

the same titles which Jesus ascribes in the gospels to himself, have in Buddhistic books

April 27, 2009

Second Coming 1835-1908 says:

This shows that the same titles which Jesus ascribes in the gospels to himself, have in Buddhistic books, which were compiled much later, been similarly ascribed to the Buddha; and, just as Jesus was tempted by the Devil, so these books claim that the Buddha also was tempted by the Devil; nay, the account of the temptation of the Buddha as stated in these books, is longer than the account of the temptation of Jesus in the Christian Gospels.

It is recorded that when the Devil offered him the temptation of wealth and kingly honour, the Buddha was inclined to return home. He, however, did not obey this desire. But the same Devil met him again one night, bringing with him all his progeny, and frightened him by frightful appearances.

To the Buddha these Devils appeared like snakes which were emitting fire from their mouths. The snakes began to throw fire and poison towards him but their poison was turned into flowers and the fire made a halo round the Buddha.

The Devil not having succeeded thus, called sixteen of his daughters, and asked them to reveal their beauty to the Buddha, but the latter was still unmoved. The Devil was balked in his designs. He adopted other means, but was unable to do anything against the steadfast Buddha, who continued to travel through higher and higher stages of spirituality, and after a long night, that is, after severe and protracted trials, he overcame his enemy the Devil; the Light of True Knowledge dawned upon him and, with the coming of the morning, i.e. as soon as his trials were over, he came to know all.

The day this great battle ended was the day of the birth of Buddhism. Gautama was 35 years old then; he was called the Buddha or the Light and the Tree under which he was sitting at the time came to be known as the Tree of Light.

Now, if you open and see the Bible you will find how the Temptation of the Buddha resembles the Temptation of Jesus, so much so, that the Buddha’s age was nearly the same at that time as the age of Jesus.

As it appears from Buddhist literature, the Devil did not appear to the Buddha in a corporeal visible form. It was a spectacle seen only by the Buddha; the talk of the Devil was an evil inspiration, i.e. the Devil, as he appeared to him, suggested to the Buddha that he (the Buddha) should abandon his course, that he should follow him (the Devil), that the Devil would give him all the wealth of the world. Likewise, the belief of Christian doctors is that the Devil who appeared to Jesus did not come to him in a corporeal form — he did not come to Jesus as a human being — before the very eyes of the Jews, traversing the streets and lanes in his physical body and talking to Jesus so as to be audible to those present.

On the contrary, the meeting was of the nature of a vision seen only by Jesus; the talk too was of the nature of inspiration, that is, the Devil, as is his wont, put into his heart evil suggestions. But Jesus did not accept, he rejected the Devil’s inspiration.

http://www.alislam.org/library/books/jesus-in-india/ch4.html