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Sects/denominations/kinds of Atheism!?

February 21, 2021
Love for all; hatred for none

The Atheism people give the impression (or they are not aware) that they don’t have any sects or denominations and they have a collective stance in Atheism. The fact is, I understand, they are as many sects and denominations as their total numbers. Every one of them is different from the other and they don’t have any rules to bind them together, inside and outside they are in shatters, but they cannot expel one who differs . Right?

Religious Forums

One may like to join discussion on the following interesting thread on RF- my favorite discussion forum, and view my post :#74 @:

https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/various-kinds-of-atheism.242511/page-2#post-7042199

paarsurrey wrote: Post #74

Various kinds of Atheism

Denominations/Sects of Atheism are on the increase to the liking or disliking of the Atheism people, they cannot stop it, as I understand.
For example if one states one’s religion as “Christian Atheist” etc., it adds one denomination/sect to Christianity as well as one denomination/sect to Atheism. Right?
It is an individuals prerogative to declare one religion as per the
“The Universal Declaration of Human Rights”:

Article 18.

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Right?
And no “ism” or “ianity” can deny this right to an individual, please.
Right?

Regards

#3 <<<<<Axxxx, wrote: 

3-2-1 dictionary definitions of atheism and inability to understand words in context incoming… :D

For me though, militant atheism is pretty much synonymous with outspoken antitheism.

I guess people can be antitheists but not “militant atheists” if they don’t really care to spread their views to others.

A militant atheist is sort of the equivalent of an evangelical, they think others adopting their view would make the world a profoundly better place and thus want to spread the “good news”.

paarsurrey wrote vide post #120

Well, even the non-believers- the Atheism people have many sects/denominations but like our friend @xxxxxxx they would deny it perhaps to show it that they stand united, please. Right?
I would like that all Christian denominations (the old one’s like the Catholics and or Protestants) and the new ones (like JWs, LDS and the Bahais) become true followers of Jesus, instead of the incorrect one’s, as I understand them to be because of following (sinful) Paul and or his made-up Pauline-Christianity whatever the denomination they belong to, to become one , please. Right?

Regards

oxxxxxxx said: I didn’t know that.
Could you tell me a couple of atheist sects to get me started? I’d like to make that list up.

paarsurrey wrote vide post #130

Welcome to get started to list them up.

Atheism – Wikipedia

https://www.dummies.com/religion/atheism/different-types-of-atheism/
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2013/jul/15/six-types-of-atheist
https://www.salon.com/2014/09/25/7_different_types_of_non_believers/
https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/15/the-six-types-of-atheists/

Regards

Quran resolves all contradictions and ambiguities of Torah and Gospels

April 8, 2010

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2010/03/18/quran-is-neither-ambiguous-nor-contradictory/#comment-980

wudjab Says:
April 7, 2010 at 9:15 pm

Is this the same quran that real muslims (Shia, Sunni, etc) believe in or is this the magical Ahmediya version ?

Paarsurrey says:

April 8, 2010 at 11:08 am

Hi friend wudjab

Quran, the first and the foremost source of guidance of Islam is the same whatever the denomination; and it has not changed from the time it was revealed. It is the pristine Word of the Creator- God Allah YHWH. It has got all the lasting and truthful teachings of all the religions of the world; including OTBible or Torah and the NTBible.

There are many contradictions and ambiguities in the Bible and their followers are perplexed to note them, as you must have observed. If they have claims for the issues, they don’t have reasons for them in their books and if they have reason, which is very seldom; they don’t have the claims for that in their books.

To resolve such contradictions their followers have to add something from their own selves which mean they add wisdom to their Books which was not there to start with.

All such contradictions and ambiguities are resolved by Quran.

The text of the Quran is the same for Shias, Sunnis and Ahmadis. Ahmadis neither believe in any magic nor do we have any magical version of the Quran.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslims

Bible and Quran – which one has presented the most real, truthful and rational picture of Jesus and Mary

January 28, 2010

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/holy-post/archive/2010/01/26/lawmakers-in-france-propose-burka-ban.aspx#ixzz0duBbOnfs

“Lawmakers in France propose burka ban”

January 28, 2010

Claims of what Jesus or Mary did or did not believe with its reasons

January 24, 2010

http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4997&p=92217#p92217

Brendalee wrote:

paarsurrey: Kindly provide proof ..that “Jesus and Mary” did not believe in the trinity.

paarsurrey wrote:

Hi friend brendalee

You know it is written in your NTBible that Jesus came to fulfill Moses’ teachings; Jesus and Mary were Jews followers of Moses. Moses never believed in any Trinity; (So Jesus and Mary never had to believe in any Trinity).

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

Brendalee wrote:

Well, firstly it is not MY “NTBible”, and secondly (and I know this will come as a great astonishment to you), I did not ask you what Moses believed, did I? Nope, I asked you to PROVE what you claim Jesus or Mary did or did not believe.

I love Isa and Mariam as mentioned in Quran

Thanks

paarsurrey says:

Hi friend brendalee

I don’t know as to why people here generally don’t want to disclose their identity or denomination/faith/religion; perhaps they don’t feel confident on the truth of their stand-point and they prefer to remain a rolling stone, without any identity. Or they might not be sure or confident to defend their denomination/faith/religion with reasonable, rational and logical arguments; well I don’t mind that. I can understand this state of affairs for the Atheists Agnostics as their belief is not natural and firm hence they need to conceal it; never mind.

I would love to prove from Quran being an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim as to the claims of what Jesus or Mary did or did not believe and of their deeds and acts that they both performed.

Please start a separate thread titles “claims of what Jesus or Mary did or did not believe with its reasons “. Now it depends on you to start such a thread, as things here might get jumbled together.

I am waiting for such a thread in the Islam questioned and defended forum.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

JWs and the Mormons claim that they are the only true Christians

January 12, 2010

http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4701&p=89761#p89761
Trinity – a mistake of the Catholics Protestants

Mr Preet wrote:

paars, what do you mean by “Catholic Protestants”?

Manfred wrote:

Yes, that did make me laugh when I saw that…

Maybe is means somebody sort halfway between their respective positions, like Anglicans, perhaps? The children of a Christian mixed marriage?

If he simply meant both all Catholics and Protestants, why did he not say “Christians” instead?

Also, Mr Preet, I don’t think paarsurrey is remotely interested in the concept of trinity, he just posted his stuff here to make fun of it. He neither understands what is means nor wants to know. But somehow making strawman cases against it makes him feel good I think. Why, I have no idea. Why does he not take a really hard look at his “Jesus taken off the cross and emigrated to India” belief instead? Now that is so unbelievably silly, it really does not deserve consideration by a sane human being.

manfred wrote:

If he simply meant both all Catholics and Protestants, why did he not say “Christians” instead?

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend manfred

The JWs and the Mormons claim that they are the only true Christians; hence I mention every follower of Paul (not of Jesus definitely) by the denomination he belongs to.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

All human beings are just like a family in this little village called Earth

July 13, 2009


http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/07/13/the-making-of-a-muslim/

‎12. paarsurrey Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

May I ask you as to what were your faith, denomination, and religion before you ‎joined ‎the present one; please mention the name of the new ‎faith/denomination/religion also.

‎1.‎ Mumin Salih
‎2.‎ kenmirzz
‎3.‎ Poma
‎4.‎ Proudkafir
‎5.‎ Pathfinder
‎6.‎ A0000Z
‎7.‎ redjupiter58


I already know that friend Shafee al-Zindig was Hanafi Sunni (Deobandi or Brailvi; he ‎‎has not mentioned) and he is a freethinker as he described elsewhere.

Please don’t mind; no compulsion.

All human beings are just like a family in this little village called Earth; I don’t hate ‎‎anyone, rather I love them all.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Those who leave Islam in fact they were dissatisfied with the denomination of Islam they ‎belonged to; and, most probably not, against ‎Islam/Quran/Muhammad

July 13, 2009

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/07/05/is-islam-really-america%e2%80%99s-second-‎largest-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-16991‎

‎• 10. ibrahim Says
:
July 6th, 2009 at 4:34 pm

I was born in a Sunni Ahle Hadith family of Kashmir. I was a practicing Muslim till ‎‎about 3 years back. Being from an Ahle Hadith family, I was particularly unhappy with ‎‎blasphemers including Ahmedis, Agha Khanis, Dawoodi Bohras, and I considered all of ‎‎them fuel for hell fire. ‎
Thanks to FFI and my own intelligence, I got out of this cult called Islam. It took me ‎‎almost 3 years to get over my fear of hell fire as this was the last connecting link between ‎‎Islam and me.

‎29. paarsurrey Says
:
July 13th, 2009 at 12:36 pm

Hi friend Ibrahim (# 10 above), a brother in humanity

It is alright with me that you left Sunni Ahle Hadith denomination; who have a lot of ‎‎untruthful and irrational creeds that a sane person won’t like or rather abhorr it; so your ‎‎leaving Ahle Hadith denomination is quite understandable to me.

For instance the Ahle Hadith, I think, believe that one cannot leave Islam if one is not ‎‎convinced at heart and soul; and is bound to live a hypocritical life in Islam. It is totally ‎‎un-Islamic and Quran/Islam/Muhammad never supported it.

If one is unsatisfied and unconvinced with Islam/Quran/Muhammad; one should leave it. ‎‎One is not to be harmed just for not being satisfied with it or being unconvinced with it. ‎‎Similarly, one could join Islam again if one’s doubts about Islam/Quran/Muhammad ‎‎become clear.

I however would say that a person who has left Islam should now concentrate in one’s ‎‎new religion one has converted to. It is not a rational approach for him, in my opinion, to ‎‎become an enemy of Islam/Quran/Muhammad and start hating it. Those who do it, in fact ‎‎remain attached to Islam though negatively; perhaps they deep at their heart are not ‎‎perfectly satisfied and in peace with their new faith or religion.

They left Islam; but Islam does not leave them; one reason for such behavior could be ‎‎that they in fact were dissatisfied with the denomination of Islam they belonged to; their ‎‎grievance was with the specific denomination they were in; and not against ‎‎Islam/Quran/Muhammad in reality.

This is my sincere understanding; others could believe differently, no compulsion.

May GodAllahYHWH bless you!

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim ‎

Paul8bee: Would you please explain significance and rationality of followings concepts of friend Ron Ash, an Agnostic

June 8, 2009

Paarsurrey says:

I have received following e-mails from our friend Ron Ash of: disciplesofloveministries.weebly.com
I understand that Atheists, Agnostics and Not-Theists are intelligent persons and since they don’t believe in blind faith; and rightly so, one thinks they would present things in a scientific way.

Presently I know following denominations of those who don’t believe that there is a Creator of this world or Universe:

• Atheists
• Agnostics
• Not- Theists

If there is yet another denomination; I would appreciate if somebody please mentions it.

I love Buddha and Socrates, wise men from God Allah YHWH- the All-Wise

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

E-mails from Ron Ashs:

1. Ron Ash
“We are our souls and our spirits created in the image of God.” (Ron Ash)

2. Ron Ash

“The best hope for an Atheist is that heaven is just a dream and hell is but a nightmare.” (Ron Ash)

3. Ron Ash

“Often when we don’t get the answer we want it is, because we asked the wrong questions.” (Ron Ash)

Anyone please quote from such Jews or Muslims who believe Jesus and Holy Spirit as god; I think not a single Jew or Muslim would be found

June 7, 2009

Edbooked says:

Who, other than Christianity, would describe the one God worshiped by Christians, Jews, and Muslims as three persons? Yet that is how the biblical writers perceived God to be revealed to humanity. They perceived the one
God; being revealed as creator Father, as obedient son even unto death and as consoling Holy Spirit and counselor.

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend edbooked

The Jews and Muslims don’t believe Jesus as god or the Holy Spirit as god. Please quote from such Jews or Muslims who believe Jesus and Holy Spirit as god; I think not a single Jew or Muslim would be found believing such thing. Even Jesus did not believe like that.

This game started with Paul; when Jesus secretly moved away from Galilee to India, after have esacpaed a cursed deatho on Cross; Paul thought it an opportune time to bring superflous ideas to mar the simple teachings of Jesus who always followed in the line of Moses.

The deserting sinful scribes of gospels also followed Paul.

I am sorry to state; that the prsent Christians though call themselves after the Christ; yet they are followers of Paul, and not of Jesus.

What is your denomination/faith? This is only requested for clarity in perceiving you standpoint; no compulsion however. Please don’t mind.

I love Jesus and Mary as I love Moses and his mother.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim


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