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Hot debate : How dynamic Islam works in tribal societies to democratic societies?

November 8, 2015

paarsurrey wrote:

In a tribal society most often if not always in head of the society the office of the religious head as well as of the government head combine in one person. In West due to the democracy both are separate, here Quran/Islam/Muhammad solved it in another way:
[4:59] Verily, Allah commands you to make over the trusts to those entitled to them, and that, when you judge between men, you judge with justice. And surely excellent is that with which Allah admonishes you! Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing.
[4:60] O ye who believe! obey Allah, and obey His Messenger and those who are in authority among you. And if you differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger if you are believers in Allah and the Last Day. That is best and most commendable in the end.

Every Muslim has to abide by the law or by the constitution of a land one lives in. And the constitution of every country could be changed if it is against the interest/benefit of its people.
It is for this that the truthful Muslims face no problem in any country of the world in this connection.


Discussion forum <>Thread: “Quran and women”.

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Core teachings of religion do not change; Cultural effects could change peripheral concepts of people though

May 15, 2014

May 14th, 2014 at 3:27 pm

@ violetwisp:May 14th, 2014 at 11:14 am
“As a women, the passages on submission to men in the Bible obviously get under my skin, and were in fact key in my deconversion.”

I am a Muslim, so I don’t have to defend Christianity; that will be done by Christians themselves.
I will defend here Religion in general.
These are cultural points; and hence do not belong to the core teachings of Christianity and for that matter to any other religion. The subordinate creeds must be interpreted under the core teachings of a religion.

Jesus did not say anything against women or against their rights. He was compassionate and respectful to them.

When society moves from primitive social set-ups; say from tribal to democracy etc; the social perspectives also changes and with that the relative religious implications also change while; the core teachings remain intact.

It could be understood as a cultural effect.

The Atheists never had any Atheistic political role, as a well-nit unit to play in any phase of the human history in any region of the world; and whenever they happened to have one; they disowned it later due to its failure.

If one differs from a cultural point with any religion; that is not a valid reason to become an Atheist. In such a situation one only has to try for reformation of that religion on that cultural point.

One could understand it easily if an Atheist looks for as to what his fellow Atheists were doing at such a point of time.


Today’s Bombing Wave

June 29, 2013

Paarsurrey says:
Quoting your words “As an Atheist who wishes for a better world, I continue to denounce the wholesale slaughter of innocent people in the name of religion, sectarian or not, wherever in the world it may be.”

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim; I also wish for a better world. I also denounce the retail or wholesale slaughter of the innocent people in the name of religion or no-religion or in the name of democracy, sectarian or whatever, wherever in the world it may be. Whether one believes in a religion or not; it is a private matter of an individual; nobody should punish anyone for that in this world; it should be left to the hereafter to be judged and treated by the one true God who is the Master of the Day of Judgment.

Captivating the Masses

As an Atheist who wishes for a better world, I continue to denounce the wholesale slaughter of innocent people in the name of religion, sectarian or not, wherever in the world it may be.


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Barak Obama -“The essential truth of democracy is that each nation determines its own ‎destiny.”‎

July 29, 2009‎counter-the-wahhabis

Hi friends

I think President Obama’s following words are quotable quotes or words of wisdom.

‎ “The essential truth of democracy is that each nation determines its own destiny.”‎

‎“Each nation gives life to democracy in its own way, and in line with its own traditions.”‎

‎“In Moscow, I spoke of the need for an international system where the universal rights of ‎human beings are respected, and violations of those rights are opposed. And that must ‎include a commitment to support those who resolve conflicts peacefully, to sanction and ‎stop those who don’t, and to help those who have suffered.”‎

I appreciate Dr. Walid Phares to have given them in his article.‎

I don’t agree with Dr. Walid Phares’s advice that the West should intervene in the affairs ‎of other nations in the name of democracy or humanity; this would be like the “terrorists” ‎use the name Muslim while their acts and deeds are only political and are not supported ‎by Quran/Islam/Muhammad.‎

Is Dr. Walid Phares a “Taliban or Al-Quaida” of the Atheists/Agnostics; suggesting ‎aggression in the name of democracy or human rights? ‎

I don’t think so.‎

He should have supported Obama’s wisdom.‎


I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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