Posts Tagged ‘core teachings’

“Should we really trust man to tell us what “God’s words” meant?”

September 9, 2015
Post#64

Paarsurrey wrote:

Whatever the religion and whatever the scripture, following points would help to discern the Truth:

  1. The claim and reason from the recipient of original Word of Revelation
  2. The context of the verses
  3. The secondary issues will be understood in the context of the core teaching/s.

Regards

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The core teachings of Judaism

June 5, 2014

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3794308-post433.html

“Quote:
Originally Posted by Avi1001
………………central issues in Judaism…………” Unquote

Paarsurrey Answers:

The core teachings of Judaism are belief in One-True-God and believing the true prophets:

5. You shall follow the Lord, your God, fear Him, keep His commandments, heed His voice, worship Him, and cleave to Him.
6. And that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream shall be put to death; because he spoke falsehood about the Lord, your God Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and Who redeemed you from the house of bondage, to lead you astray from the way in which the Lord, your God, commanded you to go; so shall you clear away the evil from your midst.

Deuteronomy – Chapter 13 (Parshah Re’eh) – Tanakh Online – Torah – Bible
http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9977

Judaism: kabbalah, homosexuality, circumcision,

June 3, 2014

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3792038-post369.html

paarsurrey
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avi1001

“Hi again, Paar, as I mentioned in my previous post, we recently discussed Kabbalah and homosexuality. Before that we discussed circumcision. By all means, please give us your thoughts on any or all of these topics.” Unquote

paarsurrey answers

None of them is the core teachings of Judaism or Moses or Abraham. These are sub-tenets and must be understood under the core teachings of religion.

Would you please mention core teachings of your religion; quoting for claim and reason from your revealed scripture, if you believe in any.

Regards

Sam Harris interviews Ayaan Hirsi Ali

May 10, 2014

Sam Harris blog
“Lifting the Veil of ‘Islamophobia’:A Conversation with Ayaan Hirsi Ali”

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/lifting-the-veil-of-islamophobia

I would have commented on Sam Harris’ blog but found no comments column on his blog, hence I am commenting here.

Paarsurrey says:

“She embraced Islam while she was growing up, but eventually began to question aspects of the faith”-

Anybody who is in a religion must be in for its core teachings; the other things are to be read and interpreted within the core teachings.

The interview fails to show as to why Ayaan Hirsi Ali embraced Islam in the first place. If she had embraced for the truth of Islam as described in its articles of faith or in the pillars of faith- the core teachings of Islam; then she would have remained in it whatever the suffering due to socio-cultural and political conditions prevailing part of the world she lived.

The socio cultural and political conditions could be reformed; and that is what she was supposed to be doing.

Instead, she opted to leap in the dark and went Atheist for no good reason.

What positive truth did she find in Atheism?

She fails to describe it in the interview.

She or any other Atheist could answer this question. Please

Christians need to reform Christianity

April 23, 2014

I have written following comments on Richard Carrier’s “Freethought Blogs”.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/4973#comment-203764

paarsurrey says:
April 23, 2014 at 1:28 pm (awaiting moderation)

“The good thing is that Evangelical Christians tend to be very passionate people and want to believe in something. If they would only put aside the lies, omissions, and distortions promulgated by their own well-paid con-men for a moment and reexamine their worldview in light of what the actual philosophical, scientific, and historical evidence is today, then they, too, would find Christmas worth celebrating…as what it actually is: a once pagan and now secular holiday invented by human beings for their own enjoyment and good. Then they can maybe go one step further and exit their dangerous delusion, and stop hating people and voting to take away their rights or to perpetuate injustices against the disadvantaged, and instead start actually caring about their fellow human beings, and the truth, for a change. Wouldn’t that be a wonderful Christmas present for us all?” Unquote

I agree with you.

The Christians need to reform their religion.

They should disprove the mythical creed invented by Paul, scribes and the Church and follow Jesus and Mary in their true and core teachings and acts.

Dawkins, Hitchens, and Harris, falsely being treated representative of New Atheism: Richard Carrier

April 23, 2014

I have written following comments on Richard Carrier’s “Freethought Blogs”.
Topic: “Minor Corrections to Crossley’s Jesus in an Age of Neoliberalism” by Richard Carrier

http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/5354#comment-203221

paarsurrey
April 23, 2014 at 9:22 am (awaiting moderation)

“Similarly, Crossley rightly takes to task the reactionary Islamophobia of Dawkins, Hitchens, and Harris, but falsely treats that as representative of New Atheism, when in fact the bulk of the New Atheist movement has been consistently criticizing them for precisely these views.” Unquote

I read Hitchens book “God is not great”; and noticed that he had no in-depth study of Quran/Islam/Muhammad and generalized things from his experience with Christianity and had a biased view of Quran/Islam/Muhammad.

In the entire book Hitchens could not quote even a single verse from Quran in support of his views about Quran/Islam/Muhammad; though the title of the book suggests that his intention was to write the book against Islam.

I appreciate Atheists’ approach of being reason-oriented and hence drawing the attention of the Revealed Religions for reformation of the peripheral, mythical and superstitious creeds. They could go into the process of reformation while keeping the core teachings intact.

Thanks and regards

Peripheral issues with Bible should be interpreted within the core teachings of Jesus

April 3, 2014

The viewers should access the following link to know the context of the post; and then they should from their own sincere and independent opinion.

http://jerichobrisance.com/2014/04/02/snapthought-wrested-from-my-hands-by-god/comment-page-1/#comment-6344

paarsurrey says:
April 3, 2014 at :

Hello everybody!

Most Issues with the Bible will get diluted; if instead of the peripheral issues one concentrates on the core teachings of Moses and Jesus:

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:36-40

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40

All the peripheral issues should be interpreted within the scope of the above core teachings of Jesus or else rejected forthwith.

This is a way of reconciliation between the Atheists who were previously Christians; the crowbar need not be applied.

Does this help?

http://jerichobrisance.com/journey/comment-page-1/#comment-6347

paarsurrey says:
April 3, 2014 at :

@Jericho Brisance

“it is possible to bring down a structure by removing the right component, the right foundational brick. The brick in this case was removed”.

What was the foundational brick of Christianity in your case? Please

Regards

Jesus mention touchstone of Christian scriptures

March 17, 2014

http://www.is-there-a-god.info/blog/about/welcome-to-atheists-and-others/#comment-8853

paarsurrey
MAR 17, 2014 @ 17:32:16

Jesus mentions his core teachings:
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Matthew 22:36-40
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40

The method of purification of Bible suggested by me is reasonably inferred from the above Jesus’ core teachings.

1. “This is the first and greatest commandment” hence, I think, Jesus would be happy if it is used as touch stone of his teachings and those which contradict with it are dubious and must be discarded.
2. “All the Law”; here he means that his teachings are for revival of Moses’ law; those of his teachings that conform to it only that must be accepted the rest discarded. This adds further purity to # 1.
3. “And the Prophets”; if the teachings have been mentioned by the prophets that further would ensure correctness.
4. “Love your neighbor as yourself”; all teachings that your neighbors don’t understand being mythical, not accepted by common sense and unreasonable should not be accepted.

Quran also confirms this principle:

[3:8] He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book; in it there are verses that are decisive in meaning — they are the basis of the Book — and there are others that are susceptible of different interpretations. But those in whose hearts is perversity pursue such thereof as are susceptible of different interpretations, seeking discord and seeking wrong interpretation of it. And none knows its right interpretation except Allah and those who are firmly grounded in knowledge; they say, ‘We believe in it; the whole is from our Lord.’ — And none heed except those gifted with understanding. —

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=3

I think with this measure Judaism, Christianity and Islam; even other revealed religions (Buddhism, Hinduism and Zoroastrianism etc) come on to the same page.

hanks and regards

In preparation to welcome Jesus’ Second Coming

March 15, 2014

I have written a post on the following blog of uncleE; the viewers could add their valuable comments here even if they differ.

“Is there a God?”
“Welcome to atheists (and others)”

http://www.is-there-a-god.info/blog/about/welcome-to-atheists-and-others/
http://www.is-there-a-god.info/blog/about/welcome-to-atheists-and-others/#comment-8835

paarsurrey
MAR 15, 2014 @ 12:33:13

In fact a movement for purification of Bible (NT) is needed.

1. What Jesus actually said and quoted by Bible should be jotted down.
2. Jesus’ core teachings should be distinctively noted as his firm and unambiguous teachings; and it should form as touchstone of his sayings
3. All such sayings which are dubious and not as firm as the core teachings should be interpreted under the firm meanings of the core teachings; else separated as weak narrations or fabricated in his name and not having told by Jesus.
4. For the contradictory verses; those which are against reason or common sense and not in line with the core teachings should be discarded.
5. All such teachings which in essence have no origin in the OT should be discarded as Jesus was a Jew and his advent was for the revival of the teachings of Moses.

This way the Christians could come out from the mess that was started by Paul and associated by the Church.

These points have been inferred from the core teachings of Jesus as already mentioned by me in this thread.

Yet; this is to be done by the Christians themselves while they get prepared to join in and to welcome Jesus’ Second Coming which has in fact already taken place.

Thanks and regards

Christians should accept core teachings of Jesus

March 10, 2014

Please view Paarsurrey comments on the blog “Is there a God?” for your valuable opinion, even if you differ.

“Is there a God?”
“Welcome to atheists (and others)”

http://www.is-there-a-god.info/blog/about/welcome-to-atheists-and-others/#comment-8800

paarsurrey
MAR 10, 2014 @ 22:38:22

@unkleE:MAR 08, 2014 @ 23:33:33
“Do I take it from your answer that you don’t accept what the scholars say about history and Jesus?” Unquote

Hi unkleE

I think it is a strange question.

History is not 100% truthful, as you know; there are always scholars differing with other scholars of history.

If the Christians don’t accept what they believe to be Jesus’ (their god or son of god) words expressing his own core teachings where he quoted and referred to OT, Moses, and prophets; how they think others would accept what lesser scholars have written about history and Jesus?

Moreover history is not written only in Europe that Jesus never visited; history is also written in other countries where Jesus and Mary and other disciples of Jesus actually visited. Will that be acceptable to you? Please.

To believe in history or scholars of history is not a prime article of faith or a pillar of faith of Islam:

Articles of Faith

• Unity of God
• His Angels
• His Books
• His Prophets
• The Last Day
• Divine Decree

Five Pillars of Islam

• Kalima
• Prayer
• Fasting
• Zakaat
• Hajj

http://www.alislam.org/

Is believing in history or scholars of history the prime tenet of Christianity?

I don’t think so

Thanks and regards