Posts Tagged ‘contradictions’

Contradictions in Bible show Bible is not preserved in its original form

April 27, 2013

I quote below from Bible:

Genesis 7:1

Noe with his family go into the ark. The deluge overflows the earth.
[1] And the Lord said to him: Go in thou and all thy house into the ark: for thee I have seen just before me in this generation. [2] Of all clean beasts take seven and seven, the male and the female.

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/01009.htm

Genesis 7:1

1The LORD then said to Noah, “Go into the ark, you and your whole family, because I have found you righteous in this generation.

http://niv.scripturetext.com/genesis/7.htm

Genesis 9:9-12

[9] Behold I will establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you: [10] And with every living soul that is with you, as well in all birds as in cattle and beasts of the earth, that are come forth out of the ark, and in all the beasts of the earth.[11] I will establish my covenant with you, and all flesh shall be no more destroyed with the waters of a flood, neither shall there be from henceforth a flood to waste the earth. [12] And God said: This is the sign of the covenant which I give between me and you, and to every living soul that is with you, for perpetual generations.

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/01009.htm

Genesis 9:20-22

[20] And Noe, a husbandman, began to till the ground, and planted a vineyard.
[21] And drinking of the wine was made drunk, and was uncovered in his tent. [22] Which when Cham the father of Chanaan had seen, to wit, that his father’ s nakedness was uncovered, he told it to his two brethren without.

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/01009.htm

  1. Noe was righteous and for this he was chosen and a covenant was made with him.
  2. It was promised that there would be no more floods in Earth after the deluge.
  3. Nakedness was a sin and Noe got drunk and became naked; it was his fault; but he was not punished and yet he distributed his blessing to his favorite son.

Floods did not cease even after the deluge; the covenant was not fulfilled. Noe did not remain innocent and became sinful, as stated in the Bible.

Obviously, it is the scribes who tried to make Noe sinful while he was an innocent person.

Hence, Bible is not preserved in its original form. Genesis is not covered in the warning of the revelation which is specific, if at all, for revelation and cannot be extended generally to other books.

 

 

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We Muslims believe all revealed scriptures; what is its exact nature?

April 17, 2013

Question and Answer session with Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad, 5 November 1995

http://www.alislam.org/v/607.html

Please start viewing the video, setting play-head position, for the relevant Q #5 @ 01:05:00 As a Muslim we believe in all the revealed books, what is the exact nature of this believe; do we believe in them word to word or just the message as a whole? Its answer ends @ 01:06:38: the answer is only: 1.38 in duration.

Paarsurrey noted following hint words and syllables in the contents of the reply to the question asked, in case of doubt, please hear the video and correct accordingly:

The key is the revealed books, word for word, not the man-made books; even their believers believe contradictions in them, added form,

One could defend Jesus’ concepts rationally: not of Paul’s

April 11, 2013

Jesus was relegated to the position of non-entity in Christianity as well as in Bible, when Paul usurped the position and introduced a new religion that had nothing to do with what Jesus and Mary believed. Modern “Christianity” is a misnomer; it only presents what Paul and scribes believed.

It was Paul, not Christ, who was the author of the modern Christianity. The person who invented Christianity, must have invented/created the Bible also. It was Paul who was at the helm of affairs of Christianity as well as the Bible. Jesus was an innocent straightforward person; he was not interested and involved in any struggle for power; this was indeed against the Character and psychology of Jesus. So Jesus was not responsible for the contradictions in the statements of the gospel writers; it was Paul.

Jesus of Bible was neither a god of the Christians nor the author of their Bible; it was Paul. Paul was the wolf in sheep’s clothing of which Jesus had warned before he went on self exile from Judea to India.

We can defend the concept of Jesus and Mary very rationally and for that we don’t have to bet or wager or to take chances as put forward by Pascal. We can do it on sure knowledge :

[12:109] Say, ‘This is my way: I call unto Allah on sure knowledge, I and those who follow me. And Holy is Allah; and I am not of those who associate gods with God.’

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=12&verse=108

What evidences are there for the Quran?

May 17, 2011

Oneman89 wrote:

Sorry, my forum question was written late last night, and I was tired. But I guess my question is why do you follow the Quran? What evidences are there for its validity? I’m just curious. Please comment back soon. Thanks friend

http://hubpages.com/question/66762/what-evidences-are-there-for-the-quran

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend Oneman89

Sorry, I never observed that somebody has asked me a question; today I first time observed it and answered it forth with.

Unlike other Revealed books of other religions that have been changed over time; Quran is ever fresh, it has following feature not found in other Revealed books:

1. It is authored by the Creator-God.
2. It has claims with reasons. It provides the reason part for its commandments.
3. It is a book of systems; its verses are elaborated by the verses in the context; so it repudiates itself if wrong meanings are ascribed to it.
4. It is for everybody; literate or illiterate, ordinary or the genius or the People of the West as also for the people of the East.
5. It is not a theoreticians’ book, it is a practical guidance for the humans in ethical, moral and spiritual matters; there is not a single teaching in this book which has not been acted upon by its founder and the followers of his time.
6. Its meaning has also been secured by great people found in every century.
7. It is not a mythical book; while it does not claim to be a text book of science, it supports sciences if understood correctly.
8. It is peaceful and peace promoting.
9. It confirms truth in the revealed books of other religions as also their founders to be truthful persons in the origin.
10. It has no contradictions in it.

These are some of the features summarized here.

These features are the evidences of Quran being useful, truthful and also that it has been authored by the Creator-God.

This also explains as to why I follow Quran.

Thanks for asking the question.

Quran resolves all contradictions and ambiguities of Torah and Gospels

April 8, 2010

https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2010/03/18/quran-is-neither-ambiguous-nor-contradictory/#comment-980

wudjab Says:
April 7, 2010 at 9:15 pm

Is this the same quran that real muslims (Shia, Sunni, etc) believe in or is this the magical Ahmediya version ?

Paarsurrey says:

April 8, 2010 at 11:08 am

Hi friend wudjab

Quran, the first and the foremost source of guidance of Islam is the same whatever the denomination; and it has not changed from the time it was revealed. It is the pristine Word of the Creator- God Allah YHWH. It has got all the lasting and truthful teachings of all the religions of the world; including OTBible or Torah and the NTBible.

There are many contradictions and ambiguities in the Bible and their followers are perplexed to note them, as you must have observed. If they have claims for the issues, they don’t have reasons for them in their books and if they have reason, which is very seldom; they don’t have the claims for that in their books.

To resolve such contradictions their followers have to add something from their own selves which mean they add wisdom to their Books which was not there to start with.

All such contradictions and ambiguities are resolved by Quran.

The text of the Quran is the same for Shias, Sunnis and Ahmadis. Ahmadis neither believe in any magic nor do we have any magical version of the Quran.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslims

If Jesus was missing from Judea, and he was reported by Hindus and Buddhists in India or Tibet; why should it be doubted? Are Romans more trustworthy than the Indians or Tibetans?

May 16, 2009

Brooksrobinson says:

paarsuery

There is one issue with this that I can see straight up without having much personal dealings with Buddhist teachings. As I have not read much of Buddhist teachings personally, I do know enough of about Buddhism to have a red flag raised with your argument here. Now, what I mean argument in the sense that you have made a statement, that is, the Buddha prophesized about Jesus, and provided “evidence” for this statement.

The red flag raised by your argument is that the writings of Buddha came hundreds of years after Buddha and were written by later followers of his ideas. In other words, the same argument you used against me about Jesus and the Gospel, that is Jesus never wrote the Gospel himself, nor did he commission anyone to write such a thing, thus we cannot take what the Gospels say about Jesus as truth. This same idea can be applied to your idea of Buddha, that is, he never commissioned anyone to write his teachings, nor did he write them himself. They came long after Buddha’s death (even later then the Gospels in relation to Jesus, the earliest manuscripts came a couple hundred years, the later manuscripts almost 400 years after Buddha). Thus your argument on rejecting the Gospels can be applied to the foundation you have used to project the truth of your idea of Jesus.

Brooks

Paarsurrey says:

My submission is not that the entire Hindu Scriptures or Buddhist Scriptures or the Christian Scriptures should be accepted as truthful; all of them are subject to research. All Scriptures should be respected on a broad base; nevertheless having some or many bad or good points; it is not difficult to see through the corruption.

When a thief steals something, he leaves some the clues there; a Sherlock Homes would find out the wrongdoer. If somebody murders; there is often a purpose of that murder pointing out to the culprit. Human wisdom and reasoning could do wonders.

Investigation could be done as is customary for the criminals. It is not an ordinary mistake; it is playing with the innocent human being’s life. Unusual should be compared with the usual. If there are contradictions, one can choose normal from the abnormal.

If we accept without investigation; that means we cannot separate right from the wrong or virtue from the wrong. Then our faith is worthless or good for nothing. Our faith does not require that; it is becoming totally blind. It would be leaping into the dark right into the ditch or the devil.

When did Jesus say that we should not discern right from the wrong? Jesus did not say anything like that. If he did say then please quote text with the context and wisdom.

If Jesus was missing from Judea, and he was reported by Hindus and Buddhists in India or Tibet; why should it be doubted? Is it abnormal to travel to India rather than ascending to skies? If a man is missing in London and he is seen in Washington; should we doubt it?

I love Jesus and Mary as I love Moses and his mother.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim