Posts Tagged ‘Christian Scriptures’

Jesus mention touchstone of Christian scriptures

March 17, 2014

http://www.is-there-a-god.info/blog/about/welcome-to-atheists-and-others/#comment-8853

paarsurrey
MAR 17, 2014 @ 17:32:16

Jesus mentions his core teachings:
36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Matthew 22:36-40
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A36-40

The method of purification of Bible suggested by me is reasonably inferred from the above Jesus’ core teachings.

1. “This is the first and greatest commandment” hence, I think, Jesus would be happy if it is used as touch stone of his teachings and those which contradict with it are dubious and must be discarded.
2. “All the Law”; here he means that his teachings are for revival of Moses’ law; those of his teachings that conform to it only that must be accepted the rest discarded. This adds further purity to # 1.
3. “And the Prophets”; if the teachings have been mentioned by the prophets that further would ensure correctness.
4. “Love your neighbor as yourself”; all teachings that your neighbors don’t understand being mythical, not accepted by common sense and unreasonable should not be accepted.

Quran also confirms this principle:

[3:8] He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book; in it there are verses that are decisive in meaning — they are the basis of the Book — and there are others that are susceptible of different interpretations. But those in whose hearts is perversity pursue such thereof as are susceptible of different interpretations, seeking discord and seeking wrong interpretation of it. And none knows its right interpretation except Allah and those who are firmly grounded in knowledge; they say, ‘We believe in it; the whole is from our Lord.’ — And none heed except those gifted with understanding. —

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=3

I think with this measure Judaism, Christianity and Islam; even other revealed religions (Buddhism, Hinduism and Zoroastrianism etc) come on to the same page.

hanks and regards

No infallible historicity of the Catholic Protestant Scriptures

January 24, 2010

Aaron wrote:

I invite you to love the Jesus of history, the true Promised Messiah, as recorded in Scripture.

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend Aaron

There is no infallible historicity of the Catholic Protestant Scriptures. Jesus lived up to the age of 120 years. The Catholic Protestant Scriptures give only 3 years of Jesus life in Judea and that only for a specific purpose which makes it a biased resource; one could simply judge the historicity of the scripture from it.

There is hardly any account of Jesus life before three years of his childhood and what he did before the age of 27 years in Egypt or elsewhere in the Catholic Protestant Scriptures.

When Jesus made good his escape to India from a cursed death in consequence of Jews putting him on the Cross; the Catholic Protestant Scriptures fail to record accounts of Jesus’ life in India and the neighboring countries.

Even these three years accounts of Jesus life in Judea have contradicting reports of the events.

For instance I just take one:

Matthew records that all the disciple of Jesus had fled away from the scene of the Cross and they deserted Jesus.

John says that a beloved disciple of Jesus was there and Jesus asked him to take care of his mother deserted Jesus Mary; the other Gospels don’t record it. Even John mentions it in third person; why should he be ashamed of mentioning his name in the first person if he was there; he was simply not there.

It is only a wishful thinking of the Catholic Protestant that their scriptures have any infallible historicity. No; that is not true.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran

Thanks and regards

If Jesus was missing from Judea, and he was reported by Hindus and Buddhists in India or Tibet; why should it be doubted? Are Romans more trustworthy than the Indians or Tibetans?

May 16, 2009

Brooksrobinson says:

paarsuery

There is one issue with this that I can see straight up without having much personal dealings with Buddhist teachings. As I have not read much of Buddhist teachings personally, I do know enough of about Buddhism to have a red flag raised with your argument here. Now, what I mean argument in the sense that you have made a statement, that is, the Buddha prophesized about Jesus, and provided “evidence” for this statement.

The red flag raised by your argument is that the writings of Buddha came hundreds of years after Buddha and were written by later followers of his ideas. In other words, the same argument you used against me about Jesus and the Gospel, that is Jesus never wrote the Gospel himself, nor did he commission anyone to write such a thing, thus we cannot take what the Gospels say about Jesus as truth. This same idea can be applied to your idea of Buddha, that is, he never commissioned anyone to write his teachings, nor did he write them himself. They came long after Buddha’s death (even later then the Gospels in relation to Jesus, the earliest manuscripts came a couple hundred years, the later manuscripts almost 400 years after Buddha). Thus your argument on rejecting the Gospels can be applied to the foundation you have used to project the truth of your idea of Jesus.

Brooks

Paarsurrey says:

My submission is not that the entire Hindu Scriptures or Buddhist Scriptures or the Christian Scriptures should be accepted as truthful; all of them are subject to research. All Scriptures should be respected on a broad base; nevertheless having some or many bad or good points; it is not difficult to see through the corruption.

When a thief steals something, he leaves some the clues there; a Sherlock Homes would find out the wrongdoer. If somebody murders; there is often a purpose of that murder pointing out to the culprit. Human wisdom and reasoning could do wonders.

Investigation could be done as is customary for the criminals. It is not an ordinary mistake; it is playing with the innocent human being’s life. Unusual should be compared with the usual. If there are contradictions, one can choose normal from the abnormal.

If we accept without investigation; that means we cannot separate right from the wrong or virtue from the wrong. Then our faith is worthless or good for nothing. Our faith does not require that; it is becoming totally blind. It would be leaping into the dark right into the ditch or the devil.

When did Jesus say that we should not discern right from the wrong? Jesus did not say anything like that. If he did say then please quote text with the context and wisdom.

If Jesus was missing from Judea, and he was reported by Hindus and Buddhists in India or Tibet; why should it be doubted? Is it abnormal to travel to India rather than ascending to skies? If a man is missing in London and he is seen in Washington; should we doubt it?

I love Jesus and Mary as I love Moses and his mother.

Thanks

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