Posts Tagged ‘Christian faith’

Who is a Christian? : Who should not morally claim to be a Christian? : There is no real “Christian” among “Christians”

May 7, 2014

I wrote following posts at the blog “debunking christianity”:

http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.ca/2014/04/what-is-true-christian.html
http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.ca/2014/04/what-is-true-christian.html#comment-1372680827

paarsurrey
@Dan Wilkinson
“Anyone who wishes to claim that title for themselves can rightfully call themselves a Christian. They differ from the atheist, the Buddhist or any other system of beliefs insomuch as that they choose to align themselves under that designation.”

It is true that for census purposes anybody who declares to be a Christian would be counted as a Christian; it is one’s right to declare religion of one’s choice for one.

But for faith purposes there is a litmus test to know a Christian from say a Muslim.

And here is the test:

There is not a single Muslim in the world who believes that Jesus died on Cross, it is so clearly mentioned in Quran. So, according to Muslims Jesus never needed to be resurrected from the dead as he never died on the Cross in the first place. Hence Jesus was never God as per Quran/Islam/Muhammad.

There is not a single Christian, in my knowledge, who does not believe that Jesus died a cursed death on Cross for the sinful Christians; later as per the Christian faith Jesus got resurrected to life from the dead, and hence he was God and he sat on the right hand of God, assuming all-power.

This is, to me, the superstitious building blocks of Christian faith which the Christians have been made to believe by Paul in Rome.

In the same way the Mormons believe the later faith, so they are Christian for all practical purposes according to the litmus test to know a Christian from a Muslim or a Muslim from a Christians.

Otherwise, one would remain confused

Thanks

http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.ca/2014/04/what-is-true-christian.html#comment-1364125373

paarsurrey
@ Dan Wilkinson

For census purposes it is correct to register anybody who wants to register as a Christian should be done accordingly.
Otherwise those who do not believe in the core teachings of Jesus; they must not morally claim to be Christians. The core teachings of Jesus are as follows:

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Matthew 22:36-40

http://www.biblegateway.com/pa…

The Christians; their 32000+ denominations; they don’t follow Jesus and the core teachings of Jesus; instead of following Jesus, they follow Paul.

Jesus did not believe in Trinity; he did not claim to be a literal and physical god or son of god; all these creeds were invented by Paul, Church and the scribes.

These creeds have nothing to do with Jesus.

Thanks

Litmus test for a Christian

May 6, 2014

I wrote following post on the topic “Are Mormons Christian?” quite sometimes back.

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=205854&page=2
http://forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=3093401&postcount=16

Post#19
Dec 17, ’07, 7:50 pm
paarsurrey

Re: Are mormons christian?
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Originally Posted by luvmykids
Do they call themselves Christian?

Hi

For sure they call themselves Christians and nobody legally, morally and rationally deny that right of expressing their faith as they believe, if there is any free will there.

They are not Muslims, definitely; first they don’t say that. Secondly the following litmus test to verify a Christian from a Muslim also proves that.

There is not a single Muslim in the world who believes that Jesus died on Cross, it is so clearly mentioned in Quran. So, according to Muslims Jesus never needed to be resurrected from the dead as he never died on Cross in the first place. Hence Jesus was never God as per Quran/Islam/Muhammad.

There is not a single Christian, in my knowledge, who does not believe that Jesus died a cursed death on Cross for the sinful Christians; later as per the Christian faith Jesus got resurrected to life from the dead, and hence he was God and he sat on the right hand of God, assuming all-power. This is, to me, the superstitious building blocks of Christian faith which the Christians have been made to believe by Paul in Rome.

The Mormons believe the later faith, so they are Christian for all practical purposes according to the litmus test to know a Christian from a Muslim or a Muslim from a Christians.

Otherwise, you would remain confused

Thanks

“Ending the pretense of faith”

March 20, 2010

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/paula_kirby/2010/03/ending_the_pretence.html

Hi friends

I quote from the article:

“These pastors, at least, have begun the important process of being honest with themselves”

I agree that these pastors have admitted an obvious fact; that what they preach is not based on truth. This open admission of the pastors if carried to its logical conclusions must entail the reform of the Christians faith in face of the Skepticism- taking place vacated by the Christian faith. And fortunately it is not difficult to do so. It should not be difficult to find out as to what Jesus and Mary believed in and what they never believed in but the Church ascribed it to them. What Jesus, Mary and the OTBible Prophets believed in was reasonable, rational and logical; with a little thought that could be ascertained and refreshed.

Jesus and Mary were devoted Jews; followers of Moses and OTBible or Torah and the Prophets. They could never deviate from their faith. So much so that Jesus was ready and in fact he was put on the Cross; but he did not waiver. He stood by the reasonable faith he had.

One has just to see as to what was Jesus’ and Mary’s belief in terms of the OTBible. The extra teachings later added or invented are just to be expunged being worthless additions and untrue witnessing.

The reformation is ready and it will be fine. Christians already believe in the OTBible; so the reformation would be within their belief system and not outside of it.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim


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