Posts Tagged ‘Buddha and Krishna’

Friend jasgang says to paarsurrey “you are not willing to look any further than your nose”

May 17, 2009

Jasgang says:

God is not God by any name. The Quran is the only place that you will find your god, because you are not willing to look any further than your nose, or your god. There is a God so much greater than your god. Our God doesn’t hate anyone, even those who turn away from Him. The Bible says that nothing shall separate us from the love of God. You can choose your own god, but in choosing the wrong god, you will be damned, not rewarded with 72 virgins, but God will still love you. I don’t understand the spirituality of the 72 virgins thing, we have had our desires in this life, to multiply and replenish the earth, in heaven there will be no more sex or need for replenishing, the kingdom will be complete with those who were obedient to the end. Those who loved God with all their heart, mind, soul, and body. If your desire is to learn the truth I am willing to confer with you. However, I have no interest in the Quran or the Muslim faith.

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend jasgang

May be you are right to say to me “you are not willing to look any further than your nose”. How correct you are?

It is only for this that we are discussing things in this blog; to benefit from one another’s experience. I will be thankful if you help me to see beyond my nose.

Perhaps, I use spectacles to see far away from my nose. It is a bifocal lenses and I can see things quite normally. Maybe you happen to be an eye specialist; but I think you told me that you are a priest. Didn’t you?

Please don’t mind if I help you to see beyond the myths; right into the reality. I think it would be OK for me if you believe in the real Jesus; not the unreal one Paul saw in a made up fairy tale.

What is this 72 virgins thing, you referred to?

If you think it is mentioned in Quran; please quote the verse from Quran; its text and the usual context which consist on five preceding and five following verses.

Quran is the spectacles with which you could see beyond the horizons of time and space; please don’t feel shy to look beyond your nose; I won’t mind, my friend.

I love Jesus and Mary as I love Buddha and Krishna.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

Jesus; suffered on Cross for being on truth; yet in minority

May 17, 2009

Brooksrobinson says:

I’m sorry to say, but the majority of New Testament scholars no matter what their faith is, would disagree with Jesus going to India. In fact, all of them hold Jesus died on the cross as the Gospels state.

Islam seems to be on the opposite side of that fence, and on top of that, your on the opposite side on the Muslim fence. I’d like to see contemporary scholarship on the issue, preferably writings outside of your Muslim sect.

Brooks

Paarsurrey says:

Hi friend brooksrobinson
I can only help you to research. In religion we don’t deal in minority or majority; we try to discern truth from the untruth, even if it is in minority, we have to side with truth and stand on truth.

We have to follow Jesus; from the time Jesus started his ministry in Judea to the time he left for India; Jesus was in minority in Judea, I think it is not difficult to understand by you and the viewers of this blog.

We have to act like Jesus, if he was a role model for us; he suffered on Cross for being on truth, but in minority; he was persecuted but he did not waver.

God Allah YHWH heard his humble supplications done at Gethsemane. God Allah YHWH helped him against all odds and saved his life. We should be thankful to God Allah YHWH that he cured his injuries inflicted on Cross, in the tomb of Joseph Arimathea.

We should also thank the intrepid physician Nicodemus, who brought an unusual quantity of myrrh and aloe, unusual for a Jewish funeral, to prepare the medicines immediately needed to treat his master, Jesus; it is mentioned in the Bible, you could see it in the Bible for yourself.

They, Nicodemus and other trusted friends of Jesus ,prepared ointments named in ancient medical history as Marhum Havariyyeen or Marhum-e-Issa; ointment of the disciples and/ or ointment of Issa/Jesus, for treatment of Jesus.

Jesus was definitely not in majority in Judea, I think you cannot deny it. Of course, when he resided in India peoples high and low, kings and common, accepted Jesus as a Divine Guide or Bagwa Metteyya or Messenger Prophet and he was honored and respected there, so it was in India that he was accepted in majority where he resided.

It is very unfortunate that Jesus’ absence in Judea prompted the cunning Paul and the sinful scribes to derail his teachings and his faith. Jesus never talked in terms of majority and minority; if now people resort to think in these terms; that mean they would have rejected Jesus if they would have been present at that time.

I don’t think any good Christian could afford this proposition.

Jesus supported only truth as mentioned in Quran. If Bible does not mention it; that makes Bible an incredible book written mythically and hence merits being denied/rejected; If not the whole of it, then at least the untrue one should be discarded, but only after proper investigation, which is always welcome in matters of faith /religion.

If you or any of the viewers here would like to research, he could access:

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts3712434.aspx

Quote:
TheRandomGuy: Existance of Jesus PROPHESIED in HINDU SCRIPTURES 3000 years before his birth

In the Bhavisiya Purana which means “Future Happenings”, the existence of Jesus is prophesied 3000 years before his birth.

http://www.salagram.net/Jesus-Went-To-India.htm#Vedic

By the way, based on scriptures written, it is a proven fact that Jesus has traveled to the east, twice to INDIA (between the missing years not mentioned in the Gospels).

Also; you guys might want to check out the book “Jesus Lived in India” by German author Holger Kersten, a brilliant authoritative book giving evidence of Christ’s life in India.

Unquote

I don’t want you to accept anything blindly; but if you have an open heart and sound mind open for truth, you may like to get convinced, if not, I don’t mind.

I respect your faith; you are at liberty if you insist to remain on the creeds of you fathers and grandfathers, if you prefer them on the truth.

I love Jesus and Mary as I love Buddha and Krishna.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim


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