Posts Tagged ‘Armageddon’

science and spirituality- are different domains by nature

June 19, 2021

paarsurrey commented on The standards of evidence that apply to science do not apply to discussion of the spirit

 •r/DebateReligion•Posted byu/solxyzpaarsurrey-2 points·3 years ago

science and spirituality, are very different domains of life and must be approached differently.

paarsurrey wrote:

I agree with you here. Facts of Religion or in different domain than the science.

In science we need to perform experiments to know about reality.

In Religion it is Word of Revelation with which we know the reality. Right, please?

Regards

paarsurrey (u/paarsurrey) – Reddit

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Holy War- with reasons, arguments and peaceful dialogue


The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2

assertion that God is contingent is wrong

June 19, 2021

paarsurrey commented on A possible world of Platonic Forms existing independent of objects would render god contingent, and therefore not necessary.All

 •r/DebateReligion•Posted byu/[deleted]paarsurrey1 point·3 years ago·edited 3 years ago

The assertion that God is contingent is wrong. God is not contingent on anything else, if I get one correctly. God is only attributive and He is not even a spirit not to speak of being physical or material. He always existed and He is the Sustainer of everything. He needs nobody, please. I give some of His attributes related to the above points:

  1. The Subtle One
  2. The Self-Subsisting
  3. The Eternal
  4. The Self-Sufficient
  5. The Everlasting
  6. The Sufficient 
  7. https://www.alislam.org/library/articles/the-attributes-of-god-asmaa-ul-husnaa/11/ 

Regards

paarsurrey (u/paarsurrey) – Reddit

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Holy War- with reasons, arguments and peaceful dialogue

The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2

“Is Jesus your ‘SAVIOR’ ?”

June 18, 2021

“Is Jesus your SAVIOR?”


By suzyangel08 said:

Do you really believe if Jesus is your savior?

paarsurrey wrote:

No, I consider GodAllahYHWH as my only savior, though I love Jesus as a ProphetMessenger of GodAllahYHWH and a perfect man. I don’t have a blind faith, my faith is reason oriented.

I am an Ahmadi, a peaceful faith in Islam

https://www.mylot.com/post/494207/is-jesus-your-savior

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Holy War


The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2

Mirza Tahir Ahmad-An introduction

June 18, 2021

“Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad – An Introduction”

The Promised Messiah and founder of the Jamaat Ahmadiyya Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani’s blessed son, Hazrat Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmood Ahmad (The Khalifatul Masih II and Musleh Mauod) married Hazrat Syeda Maryam Begum on 7th February, 1924. She was the daughter of Hazrat Dr. Abdul Sattar Shah, scion of an eminent Syed family. In his Nikah sermon, Syed Sarwar Shah Sahib, a venerable companion of the Promised Messiah said,

“I am now advanced in years and would soon pass away, But those who live would witness the advent of Servants of the faith born in this wedlock with a Syeda as occurred before. This is my resolute conviction.”

And so this Servant of the faith was born on 18th December, 1928. He grew up righteousness and virtuous under the guidance of his illustrious father and devout mother and with divine blessings. Once, during his childhood, he was asked by a well-know Ahmadi Savant, Maulana Abdul Rahim Nayyer, “Which reward would you cherish most for doing good work?” “Allah – Only Allah” was the 10 year old’s spontaneous answer.

The blessed personage was named Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad. His erudition encompasses wide range of knowledge both spiritual and material. After graduation, he obtained the “Shahid” degree from Jamia Ahmadiyya (Theological Academy) at Rabwah. Then he studied in Europe for two and half years.

After completing his higher education, he dedicated his life to the service of faith. In October 1958, he was given charge of “Waqf-e-Jadid” the department for propagation of the highest grades of virtue and for fostering welfare of Ahmadis. From 1960 to 1969 he was vice-president and then president of Majlis Khuddam-ul-Ahmadiyya in which capacity he displayed remarkable qualities of leadership. From 1979 to 1982, he was president of Majlis Ansarullah. He served as Director of Fazl-e-Omar Foundation in the time of Hazrat Khalifatul Masih III. He was patron of the International Ahmadiyya Association of Architect and Engineers (IAAAE). Allah has bestowed upon him extraordinary talents of speech and writing. The books authored by him gave greatly enriched the repository of Ahmadiyya literature. Some of the well-known titles are: Biography of Hazrat Fazl-e-Omar, Murder in the name of Allah, Maudoodi Islam, What Ahmadiyyat gave to the world, and The Moral Excellence of the Holy Prophet in Wars.

Hazrat Hafiz Mirza Nasir, Khalifatul Masih III passed away on the 9th of June, 1982 and the following day Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad Sahib was elected as Khalifatul Masih IV. Under his able guidance and with divine help, the Jamaat is making great strides. Progress and advancement is evident in every respect – geographically, historically, morally, and spiritually.

Allah says in the Holy Quran, “He indeed prospers who purifies it” 91:10. As such purification of soul is regarded the foremost guiding principle for the followers of Allah’s prophets. Hazrat Khalifatul Masih IV has exhorted the Jamaat to achieve this end in various ways some of which are mentioned here.

Huzur emphasised on the importance of observing congregational Prayer Service. He dealt with this topic in three phases – in Friday Sermon of 1st April 1983 and in various sermons since 8th November 1985. On 17th June 1988, he once again stressed the need for establishing and strengthening communion with Allah through prayers. With Allah’s grace, these dynamic exhortations are producing good results and the general improvement in moral and spiritual standards of the Jamaat in quite evident.

The so-called modern society has shattered the dignity of woman under the illusion of equality. The manner in which Islam has safeguarded the honour and esteem of woman in deprecated and subjected to misplaced criticism. In his question and answer session and Press Conferences, Huzur not only refuted this criticism, he also enunciated the true status of woman in Islam. He exhorted the Ahmadi women to observe “Purdah” strictly and to safeguard the Islamic values. In his sermon at the annual Ahmadiyya conference of 1982, he warned the Ahmadi women against the perils of western culture and conveyed to them the significance and importance of Islamic Purdah.

In consequence of this guidance, most of the Ahmadi ladies in western countries now meticulously observe Purdah.

Islam has propounded very noble teachings about family life and the Holy Prophet was a model of moral excellence in this respect. Some people do not follow this good example and transgress Quranic teachings. In his Friday Sermon of 14th February, 1986, Huzur exhorted the Ahmadis to completely root out this behaviour from their daily lives and foster graciousness between kindred and in-laws. In response many families have forsworn their past attitude.

The Ahmadis as a group stand out from others as comparatively free from the shackles of un-Islamic customs and superstitions. Shortcomings do arise at times and Huzur has particularly laid stress to eradicate them. In his sermons of 8th March, 1985 and 10th May, 1985, Huzur enjoined the Ahmadis to eschew giving dowry beyond means, exchanging gifts on New Year Day or other similar customs.

The Muslims celebrate Eid twice a year. The affluent generally move within the narrow confines of their own circle. In his Eid Sermon of 1983, Huzur asked the wealthy Ahmadis to go to the homes of their poor brethren to wish them happy Eid and offer them gifts. In compliance of this directive, the delectation of Eid in Ahmadi society has escalated significantly and this is the very substance and philosophy of Islamic festival of Eid.

To derive real profit from the teachings of Quran, one must be righteous. Allah says, “It is a guidance for the righteous.” 2:3. In a gathering the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) pointed his finger towards his chest and said, “The righteousness should be here”. Elucidating this Hadith, the Promised Messiah pronounced “Righteousness is a virtue that should be rooted in the heart.” The Khalifatul Masih IV reflected elaborately on this topic in various sermons. The righteousness nourished with the awe and love of Allah is supreme and perpetual.

The preaching of Islam is obligatory for every Muslim. In the present age it is only the Ahmadiyya Movement which is actively engaged in this great effort and this fact is conceded by our antagonists also. Hazrat Khalifatul Masih IV has vastly expanded this programme of preaching and propagation. The Ahmadis by and large are now perceptive to this call and in addition there is a regular cadre of preachers. On the whole, the implementation of the programme in as many as 152 countries of the world.

In the era of the 4th Caliph, the Jamaat has come to exercise considerable influence winning more and more adherents, among them eminent personalities and tribal kings. In 1987, two such kings from Nigeria made the covenant and joined Jamaat. Thus the Promised Messiah’s revelation, “Kings will seek blessings from thy clothes” found fulfilment once again. Huzur bestowed sacred relics of the Promised Messiah on these two kings when they presented themselves during the annual Ahmadiyya Conference in London in 1987.

The Promised Messiah was commissioned by God for rejuvenating Islam and disseminating the Holy Quran. During the time of the 2nd and 3rd Caliphs, translation of the Holy Quran was done in different languages. This work has been considerably accelerated now. Translations in fifty one languages of the world have been completed and published. Translation of 300 selected verses of the Quran in 118 languages of the world have been done. This monumental achievement has no parallel in the last 1400 years.

To achieve the highest grades of excellence and purification, spending in the cause of Allah is proclaimed a virtue of great merit subordinated only to the performance of prayer. It is a measure of the grand spiritual revolution brought about by the Promised Messiah that the Ahmadis are always prepared and eager to spend money in the cause of Allah. Their zeal for such voluntary sacrifices has been ever growing having greatly accelerated in the era of Hazrat Khalifatul Masih IV.

The annual budget of Jamaat has reached 1 billion mark. This figure represents the Obligatory Donations only. There are other categories like Tehrik-e-Jadid, Waqf-e-Jadid, Syedna Bilal Fund and Propagation of Quran Fund. Hazrat Khalifatul Masih IV journeys many countries each year. This is to oversee, streamline, extend and accelerate the multifarious activities of the Jamaat. The countries graced by him are Africa, East and West, Far East, Europe, America and Canada.

Only one and half month after becoming Khalifa, Huzur travelled to Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland, Holland, UK and Australia. He inaugurated the “Basharat Mosque” the first ever to be built in Spain in 750 years. He addressed 18 press conferences wherein he provided erudite interpretation of Islamic teachings.

For seven weeks in 1983 (Aug. 22 – Oct. 14) he visited Singapore, Fiji, Australia and Sri Lanka. Laying the foundation stone of “Bait-ul-Huda” mosque and Mission House at Sydney was a momentous event of this tour. He also addressed a crowded press conference at the University of Canberra where he expounded the beauty of Islamic values. In December 1984, he undertook a tour of Holland, Germany and France. Plans for establishing big centres were discussed.

In September 1985, Huzur again visited European countries. New Missions in Holland, Belgium, West Germany were declared open. A sprawling and spacious centre, “Nasir Gardens” was inaugurated. Huzur travelled to seven European countries, opened five new missions and examined the prospects of establishing another four. In addition to question and answer sessions, four press conferences were addressed.

From Mid August to 7th October, 1986, Huzur visited Canada, Holland, West Germany, Switzerland, Italy and Spain where he met eminent personalities and also the press. During the tour, foundation stone of the first Ahmadiyya Mosque in Canada was laid.

The same year he graced the Annual Khuddam-ul-Ahmadiyya gathering in Frankfurt and also visited Belgium and Holland. In 1987, he travelled twice to European countries, USA and Canada. This was indeed a history making tour as many new Missions were inaugurated. He met a cross section of eminent persons and conveyed to them the Islamic teachings in a most persuasive way. He was hailed in many cities of America where the day was declared “Mirza Tahir Ahmad Day”.

In January 1988, he set his foot in West Africa for the first time. This tour of six countries spanning over five weeks was highly successful. Tumultuous welcome greeted him everywhere, Gambia, Sierra-Leone, Liberia, Ivory Coast, Ghana and Nigeria. Various Presidents, Ministers, Parliamentarians and Paramount Chiefs met him. The President of Sierra Leone was with him for half an hour. He offered him the use of his personal helicopter and also assigned Police Personnel for his security. Throughout the country, the government made arrangements for his stay. Likewise the government of Liberia provided him use of two Chauffeur-driven cars as well as a Police Squad for security duty. There was meeting with the President and Vice President of Ghana. In almost all these countries, Radio and TV gave ample and appreciative coverage to Huzur’s activities. Medical and educational institutions provided by the Movement for the benefit of the people were highly praised.

Returning from his tour, Huzur proclaimed:

“I perceive Light not Darkness in this continent. Many outsiders came here and exploited the people. The wealth of Africa was used elsewhere. Allah has inspired a plan in my mind that the Ahmadiyya Movement would procure funds elsewhere in the world but utilise here in Africa.”

Huzur created an exclusive department and charged it with fostering the renaissance and revival of the African people. He also urged Ahmadi doctors, teachers and specialists in other fields to offer themselves for service in Africa.

Same year in March/April, Huzur visited Frankfurt and Glasgow. In August/September, he travelled to East Africa and Mauritius. This was the first time ever that an Ahmadi Khalifa had travelled to this part of the world. He visited Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania besides Mauritius. This was, again a very successful visit. Some mosques were inaugurated. Various Ahmadis got the opportunity of meeting with exalted personage and benefiting from his sublime discourses.

All these tours by the head of the world-wide Ahmadiyya Movement strengthened and uplifted the spirituality and created awakening among the Ahmadi masses. These were instrumental in dispelling the wrong notions about Islam held by a section of the educated classes. On occasions, the critics were confounded when Huzur expounded the correct interpretation of Islamic teachings and were impelled to embrace Islam there and then. In the course of his African tour, hundreds of persons got initiated in Ahmadiyyat.

Whenever any prophet of Allah comes, he and his followers are opposed and derided. It has been the same with Jamaat Ahmadiyya the followers of the Promised Messiah ever since its inception. In 1974 the government of Pakistan embarked on their persecution which reached most cruel dimensions with the promulgation of Zia-ul-Haq’s Ordinance XX in 1984. The Ahmadis were tormented and persecuted continuously and life was made unbearable for them. But they displayed amazing steadfastness and spirit of sacrifice. In the face of such horrible oppression they stood firm like a rock. Their fearless resolve stems from their unshakeable faith that they hold fast the rope of Allah in the form of Khilafat. Under the guidance of Khilafat the machinations, intrigues and campaigns of derision are met with fortitude, highest grade of virtues and beneficence, reminiscent of the earliest Muslims.

The tortures perpetuated on peace loving Ahmadis grew ever harsher. Some two dozen Ahmadis are martyred. The Holy Founder of the Ahmadiyya Movement is subjected to slander and blasphemous allegations. Profane and foul language is used against other venerable persons of the Jamaat. Such dirty propaganda is spread throughout the world. The Jamaat does not posses enough resources to reply. Yet our Imam, Khalifatul Masih administered cogent refutations to the “White Paper” brought out by the government of Pakistan. This refutation was contained in a series of 18 booklets issued from London, and later published in one volume.

All efforts of their reformation having failed, all precepts fallen on deaf ears, warning of Divine punishments unheeded and having exhausted every other avenue, the Khalifatul Masih IV, on 10th June, 1988, now challenged all their TOP leaders for a “Mubahala”. Let the matter be judged by Allah, The Best of Judges.

One month after the challenge of Mubahala, Maulavi Aslam Qureshi who had gone underground capriciously, reappeared. It had been alleged that he was abducted and then murdered, and the name of the Head of Ahmadiyya Community was maliciously implicated. Aslam Qureshi’s appearance was an ignominious disgrace for the opponents.

The admonitory destruction of General Zia-ul-Haq on 17th August, 1988 (only nine weeks after the challenge of Mubahala) is the manifestation of another Grand Sign for the Truth of Ahmadiyyat.

Blessed are those who take heed of divine signs, recognise the Reformer of the Age and come together under the banner of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and those who are steadfast in their allegiance to the institution of Khilafat. May Allah shower His Blessings on them. Ameen!

Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad – An Introduction | Islam Ahmadiyya (alislam.org)

call for vigilance against all forms of extremism

June 18, 2021

World Muslim Leader Inaugurates Tahir Hall in Peace Village

Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad calls for vigilance against all forms of extremism

On 11 July 2012, the World Head of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat, Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad, the Fifth Khalifa, officially inaugurated the ‘Tahir Hall’, a three-storey complex built by the Jamaat on land adjacent to the Baitul Islam Mosque in Peace Village. More than 550 people attended the event including more than 150 non-Ahmadi guests.

The event began as Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad unveiled a plaque to officially mark the occasion. This was followed by a welcome address by Lal Khan Malik, the President of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat in Canada and the remarks of various guest dignitaries.

The highlight of the evening was the keynote address given by Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad in which he expressed his great admiration for Canada and its spirit of openness and tolerance. He also used his address to warn about the dangers of extremism penetrating Western society.

In his welcome address, Lal Khan Malik, gave a brief history of the Tahir Hall project. He informed that the building was multipurpose and would be used to educate, to encourage health and fitness and also for administrative purposes. He stated that all of the money for the project had been raised internally by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat.

The audience was also informed that the building had been named after Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad, the Fourth Khalifa, who led the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat from 1982 until his demise in April 2003.

Minister Julian Fantino MP said he brought greetings from Canada’s Prime Minister Stephen Harper. He added:

“The inauguration of Tahir Hall represents yet another milestone resulting from your outstanding commitment to strengthening our community. This auspicious occasion is highlighted by the presence of His Holiness Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad, the Head of the Worldwide Ahmadiyya Community.”

The interim leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, Bob Rae MP, said:

“It is a great pleasure and privilege to attend the event and to have Hazrat Mirza Masroor with us in Canada. We celebrate the commitment of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat towards mutual understanding, love and religious tolerance. We are very proud of our relationship with the Community and we will always stand up for its members who are denied their rights.”

Kyle Seeback MP said that the Jamaat was a ‘model and beacon for all Canadians’. Judy Sgro MP said it was a ‘truly special day’. She added that the building was a source of pride for all.

Dr. Kirsty Duncan MP said that the Tahir Hall was ‘a gift to the community and to Canada’. She added that she had attended the Annual Convention a few days earlier and had been ‘truly inspired by His Holiness, Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad’.

Others to take the stage and congratulate the Jamaat included Linda Jeffrey MPP, Eric Joliffe, Chief of York Regional Police, Councillor Marilyn Iafrate and Doug White, the Mayor of Bradford.

The Mayor of Vaughan, Maurizio Bevilacqua, introduced Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad and invited him to deliver the keynote address.

Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad used his address to speak about the high levels of tolerance manifest by the Canadian people.

His Holiness said:

“Canada is a vast country, spread far and wide and in the same way the levels of tolerance and mutual respect displayed by the Canadian people is vast and truly exemplary. It was in view of such a harmonious society that my predecessor, Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad(ra), the fourth Khalifa of the Ahmadiyya Community, stated in admiration of Canada, that he wished that ‘the whole world becomes Canada and Canada becomes the whole world’.”

Hazrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad continued by stating that he had always been afforded a kind welcome whenever he had visited Canada.

His Holiness said:

“I recall that when I first came to Canada in 2004, upon arriving at the airport there were many politicians and people associated with the Government who were present to welcome me to the country. When I saw this, I was extremely pleased but also quite astonished. It felt as though I had come back to my own country and it was my own brothers and sisters who were there to greet me.”

The Khalifa concluded by speaking about the perils of all forms of extremism.

He said that extremists were taking advantage of liberal immigration laws to enter certain countries and were thus there was a real threat that their hate-filled ideologies would penetrate Western countries such as Canada. Thus he urged the Government and Authorities to take serious notice of this risk.

His Holiness said:

“For “the entire world to become Canada” we must keep a vigilant eye on all forms of extremism and extremists. A close eye must be kept on those who try to enter the country on the pretext of business or investment… No doubt the eyes and glances of those who hold extremist ideologies are cast upon this country. It is not necessary that they will conduct a large scale terrorist attack, but instead they may take a more subtle approach, whereby they will seek to gradually spread their hate-filled ideologies upon entering the country.

World Muslim Leader Inaugurates Tahir Hall in Peace Village | Islam Ahmadiyya (alislam.org)

“Was Jesus the ‘Son of God’ ? “

June 18, 2021

Was Jesus the Son of God?

theband4life said:

I was wondering if anyone has proof that Jesus was the son of God. I personally am a Christina and believing in the Bible, I also believe he was the son of God? What do you think?

paarsurrey wrote:

JesusYeshuaIssa’s life account is also given in Quran, and more accurately than Bible. Quran denies that JesusYeshuaIssa evere claimed to be Son of God.

paarsurrey

Hi Well , to me , physically he could not be a Son of God. Like in John 8:44 Jesus called those who were not good people that they were Sons of the Devil, so Jesus being a ProphetsMessenger of GodAllah YHWH was a perfect good man so he was Son of God, or whom God loved. So in that sense yes he was loved one of God. We also love him. Thanks I am an Ahmadi, a peaceful faith is Islam

paarsurrey

In my opinion ,JesusYeshuaIssa was never God neither he could be one, he was a perfect man, a perfect man would become imperfect with addition of any further attributes. Like he could not be an angel physically , he could not be God. Maybe he metaphorically he described as such, that since he was perfect man, a perfect image of GodAllah YHWH as mentioned in Genesis, man is made on image of God. This is my belief others could have some other belief, no compulsion. Thanks I am am Ahmadi , a peaceful faith in Islam

paarsurrey

Yes, if you are doing good things that please GodAllahYHWH then you are also a dauhgter of God, no doubt. That is my opinion, others could differ with me but giving some good reason. I have a reason oriented faith, not a blind faith. Thanks I am an Ahmadi, a peaceful faith in Islam

paarsurrey

No, there is no proof that JesusYeshuaIssa was physically a Son of God. He could be a Son of God if his mother the pious Mary would had been physically a God and wife to a God. Since that never happened so JesusYeshuaIssa remains a Perfect Man and a truthful ProphetMessenger of God.

Was Jesus the Son of God? / myLot

OOO

The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2

“May I read New Testament firstly instead of Old Testament”

June 18, 2021

May I read New Testament firstly instead of OLd Testament?

ernest_bj said:

I find old testament difficult to read .

paarsurrey wrote:

No, that won’t be an appropriate way. One should start from the beginning and end at the end, only then one could understand things in true prospective. Christian Priests do suggest to first read the New Testament, but that is incorrect.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam working for unity of all revealed religions.

May I read New Testament firstly instead of OLd Testament? / myLotJESUS CHRIST

OOO


The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO  

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3 

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2

“MY religion is the ONLY true religion! YOUR religion is wrong!”

June 17, 2021

“MY religion is the ONLY true religion! YOUR religion is wrong!”

By hockeygal4ever

How do you react to people like this? I get so upset. I don’t’ think there is one right answer to religion. Religion is based largely upon where you are brought up, how you are raised and so on. Some people call a dog a dog while others call it a canine… does that make them wrong because it’s not called a dog? See my drift? How do u tolerate or handle intolerance amongst religious people?

paarsurrey wrote:

I agree to the first part of your write-up, while with the later I do not agree, with reasons.

The revealed religions are from God/Allah/YHWH who has sent His revelations to perfect men and thus all revealed religions are in origin truthful that is why they have many things in common.

Later on the teaching of the perfect men were interfered with by the sinful persons as they tampered with the revelation. so God/Allah/YHWH chose another perfect man for his Word. This is the religious circle.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam, working for unity of all religions of the world with peaceful means.

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thewatchlist
said:

Unfortunately since religion is belief in the supernatural (for which there is no natural evidence of), they all seem to include rules about not being so friendly to those who do not believe. If you take your Bible or Qu’ran literally, you kind of have to be intolerant to those who do not believe.

paarsurrey wrote:

You are right, it is hard to find a person who would say that his religion is inferior to others and his religion is wrong. But that is due to blind faith, which is like believing nothing. The true faith is reason oriented, enlightened, moderate and has tolerance and respect of others. While respecting others and listening to others view point coolly one could present one’s own view point translating into common sense one could make search oriented faith which is a firm faith. One should also pray to God/Allah/YHWH to guide one on true path and also for the person one is in conversation or discussion.

Thanks I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam, working for unity of all religions with peaceful means

https://www.mylot.com/post/689787/my-religion-is-the-only-true-religion-your-religion-is-wrong

OOO

The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

“The religion of one age is the literary entertainment of the next”

June 17, 2021

“The religion of one age is the literary entertainment of the next”

Mithras - Mithras was an ancient God who was believed to have been born of a rock (or a virgin in some versions) on the 25th December.

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By pumpkinjam

We now accept things such as Greek, Egyptian and Roman mythology as exactly that, mythology. I am sure these, and other, ancient civilisations actually believed that their gods were real. So what about today’s religions? Do you think they will be the literally entertainment of the next age? That people will come to consider Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc., as mythology?

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paarsurrey wrote:

No, I don’t agree with you. I am an Ahamdi – a peaceful faith in Islam. I think that man will ultimately know his destiny and recognize his GodAllahYHWH. I believe that all revealed religions were truthful in origin, later man got lead astray. I believe that the unity among religions could be achieved by reason, research and pray. One should not have a blind faith, as that is inhuman. God has given us eyes to see and insight to research, and common sense to communicate with one another with respect, humility and politeness.

Thanks

https://www.mylot.com/post/507067/the-religion-of-one-age-is-the-literary-entertainment-of-the-next

OOO

The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, it has already started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

Reverend Billy Graham – Evangelist/Christian Challenged by Sheikh Mubarak Ahmad-Ahmadiyya Muslim

June 14, 2021

Graham in a suit with his fist clenched

Billy Graham – Wikipedia

Who is Sheikh Mubarak Ahmad? (1910–2001) – ahmadiyyafactcheckblog

OOO

The News:

One will, perhaps, love to read the following:

“Holy War”: Is it Armageddon? with its ” Peaceful Version”! 1

“Holy War”: Is it Armegiddon / Armageddon? – with its “Peaceful Version”! 1 | paarsurrey (wordpress.com)

One will be taken aback to note that Armegiddon/Armageddon is nothing like as one would have imagined or known so far. It is not to be fought with any physical and destructive weaponry and or the lethal arsenal of the day. It is peaceful and in fact, I understand, had already been started and it is sown like a seed!

It was a debate between the Pauline-Christianity (represented by Mr. Abdullah Atham) and the Second Coming 1835-1908 , that took place in Urdu language and was published then by the name “Jang-e-Muqaddas” in 1893 ( 22 May 1893 to 5 June 1893) in the then British India and has been recently translated and published in English by the name “The Holy War”:

The Holy War — A DEBATE BETWEEN ISLAM & CHRISTIANITY — Jang-e-Muqaddas (alislam.org)

Right?

From: a peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim

OOO

These are the days of Armageddon – the final battle between good and evil –The peaceful Version! 3

Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908 ?– The peaceful Version! 2


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