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Paarsurrey wrote:Angels have been created for promoting good thoughts in humans.
Satan has been created for promoting evil thoughts in humans.
Humans decide as to what they have to do good or evil.
Satan was never an angel.
It is in nature of Satan to rebel.
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http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=4701&p=89800#p89800
Trinity – a mistake of the Catholics Protestants
Paarsurrey says:
Hi friends
John 20:17
16 Jesus saith to her: Mary. She turning, saith to him: Rabboni (which is to say, Master). 17 Jesus saith to her: Do not touch me, for I am not yet ascended to my Father. But go to my brethren, and say to them: I ascend to my Father and to your Father, to my God and your God. 18 Mary Magdalen cometh, and telleth the disciples: I have seen the Lord, and these things he said to me. 19 Now when it was late that same day, the first of the week, and the doors were shut, where the disciples were gathered together, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them: Peace be to you. 20 And when he had said this, he shewed them his hands and his side. The disciples therefore were glad, when they saw the Lord.
http://www.drbo.org/chapter/50020.htm
Jesus denied his divinity; he was different from his God the father to whom he was to go after his natural death; he did not mention here of the Holy Spirit as it was only an angel, not a god.
I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.
Thanks
Ericprothro says:
If you check muslin history you will find that the Mormon faith and the Muslim religion were both started the exact same way; an Angel of light appeared to their leader. Do your research you will find that this is true. In all books either Koran or Mormon the angel of light is always identified as Satan. Shalom
Paarsurrey says:
Hi friend ericprothro
Please quote from Quran to prove your point where angel of light has been always identified as Satan. I am sure you are mistaken in this connection.
I love Jesus and Mary as I love Moses and his mother, mentioned in Quran.
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I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
Klosterman says:
Can you please tell me how Jesus and Mary are viewed in the Quran? Sorry for my ignorance on this….
Thanks,
Miguel
Paarsurrey says:
Hi friend Miguel
There are many places in which accounts of life and teachings of Jesus and Mary are mentioned in Quran. I just give here teaching of Jesus and Mary from Surah/Chapter: 19 Maryam/Mary from Quran:
[19:17] وَاذْكُرْ فِىْ الْـكِتٰبِ مَرْيَمَۘ اِذِ انتَبَذَتْ مِنْ اَهْلِهَا مَكَانًا شَرْقِيًّاۙ
[19:17] And relate the story of Mary as mentioned in the Book. When she withdrew from her people to a place to the east,
[19:18] فَٱتَّخَذَتۡ مِن دُونِهِمۡ حِجَابً۬ا فَأَرۡسَلۡنَآ إِلَيۡهَا رُوحَنَا فَتَمَثَّلَ لَهَا بَشَرً۬ا سَوِيًّ۬ا
[19:18] And screened herself off from them, then We sent Our angel to her, and he appeared to her in the form of a perfect man.
[19:19] قَالَتْ اِنِّىْۤ اَعُوْذُ بِالرَّحْمٰنِ مِنْكَ اِنْ كُنْتَ تَقِيًّا
[19:19] She said, ‘I seek refuge with the Gracious God from thee if indeed thou dost fear Him.’
[19:20] قَالَ إِنَّمَآ أَنَا۟ رَسُولُ رَبِّكِ لِأَهَبَ لَكِ غُلَـٰمً۬ا زَڪِيًّ۬ا
[19:20] He replied, ‘I am only a Messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a righteous son.’
[19:21] قَالَتۡ أَنَّىٰ يَكُونُ لِى غُلَـٰمٌ۬ وَلَمۡ يَمۡسَسۡنِى بَشَرٌ۬ وَلَمۡ أَكُ بَغِيًّ۬ا
[19:21] She said, ‘How can I have a son when no man has touched me, neither have I been unchaste?’
[19:22] قَالَ كَذَٲلِكِ قَالَ رَبُّكِ هُوَ عَلَىَّ هَيِّنٌ۬ۖ وَلِنَجۡعَلَهُ ۥۤ ءَايَةً۬ لِّلنَّاسِ وَرَحۡمَةً۬ مِّنَّاۚ وَكَانَ أَمۡرً۬ا مَّقۡضِيًّ۬ا
[19:22] He replied, ‘Thus it is.’ But says thy Lord, ‘It is easy for Me; and We shall do so that We may make him a Sign unto men, and a mercy from Us, and it is a thing decreed.’
[19:23] ۞ فَحَمَلَتۡهُ فَٱنتَبَذَتۡ بِهِۦ مَكَانً۬ا قَصِيًّ۬ا
[19:23] So she conceived him, and withdrew with him to a remote place.
[19:24] فَاَجَآءَهَا الْمَخَاضُ اِلٰى جِذْعِ النَّخْلَةِۚ قَالَتْ يٰلَيْتَنِىْ مِتُّ قَبْلَ هٰذَا وَكُنْتُ نَسْيًا مَّنْسِيًّا
[19:24] فَأَجَآءَهَا ٱلۡمَخَاضُ إِلَىٰ جِذۡعِ ٱلنَّخۡلَةِ قَالَتۡ يَـٰلَيۡتَنِى مِتُّ قَبۡلَ هَـٰذَا وَڪُنتُ نَسۡيً۬ا مَّنسِيًّ۬ا
[19:24] And the pains of childbirth drove her unto the trunk of a palm-tree. She said, ‘O! would that I had died before this and had become a thing quite forgotten!’
[19:25] فَنَادَٮٰهَا مِن تَحۡتِہَآ أَلَّا تَحۡزَنِى قَدۡ جَعَلَ رَبُّكِ تَحۡتَكِ سَرِيًّ۬ا
[19:25] Then he called her from beneath her, saying, “Grieve not. Thy Lord has placed a rivulet below thee;
[19:26] وَهُزِّىٓ إِلَيۡكِ بِجِذۡعِ ٱلنَّخۡلَةِ تُسَـٰقِطۡ عَلَيۡكِ رُطَبً۬ا جَنِيًّ۬ا
[19:26] “And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree; it will cause fresh ripe dates to fall upon thee.
[19:27] فَكُلِى وَٱشۡرَبِى وَقَرِّى عَيۡنً۬اۖ فَإِمَّا تَرَيِنَّ مِنَ ٱلۡبَشَرِ أَحَدً۬ا فَقُولِىٓ إِنِّى نَذَرۡتُ لِلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ صَوۡمً۬ا فَلَنۡ أُڪَلِّمَ ٱلۡيَوۡمَ إِنسِيًّ۬ا
[19:27] “So eat and drink, and cool thy eye. And if thou seest any man, say, ‘I have vowed a fast to the Gracious God; I will therefore not speak this day to any human being.’”
[19:28] فَأَتَتۡ بِهِۦ قَوۡمَهَا تَحۡمِلُهُ ۥۖ قَالُواْ يَـٰمَرۡيَمُ لَقَدۡ جِئۡتِ شَيۡـًٔ۬ا فَرِيًّ۬ا
[19:28] Then she brought him to her people, carrying him. They said, ‘O Mary, thou hast brought forth a strange thing.
[19:29] يَـٰٓأُخۡتَ هَـٰرُونَ مَا كَانَ أَبُوكِ ٱمۡرَأَ سَوۡءٍ۬ وَمَا كَانَتۡ أُمُّكِ بَغِيًّ۬ا
[19:29] ‘O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a wicked man nor was thy mother an unchaste woman!’
[19:30] فَأَشَارَتۡ إِلَيۡهِۖ قَالُواْ كَيۡفَ نُكَلِّمُ مَن كَانَ فِى ٱلۡمَهۡدِ صَبِيًّ۬ا
[19:30] Then she pointed to him. They said, ‘How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?’
[19:31] قَالَ إِنِّى عَبۡدُ ٱللَّهِ ءَاتَٮٰنِىَ ٱلۡكِتَـٰبَ وَجَعَلَنِى نَبِيًّ۬ا
[19:31] He said, ‘I am a servant of Allah. He has given me the Book, and made me a Prophet;
[19:32] وَجَعَلَنِى مُبَارَكًا أَيۡنَ مَا ڪُنتُ وَأَوۡصَـٰنِى بِٱلصَّلَوٰةِ وَٱلزَّڪَوٰةِ مَا دُمۡتُ حَيًّ۬ا
[19:32] ‘And He has made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and has enjoined upon me Prayer and almsgiving so long as I live;
[19:33] وَبَرَّۢا بِوَٲلِدَتِى وَلَمۡ يَجۡعَلۡنِى جَبَّارً۬ا شَقِيًّ۬ا
[19:33] ‘And He has made me dutiful toward my mother, and He has not made me haughty and unblessed.
19:34] وَٱلسَّلَـٰمُ عَلَىَّ يَوۡمَ وُلِدتُّ وَيَوۡمَ أَمُوتُ وَيَوۡمَ أُبۡعَثُ حَيًّ۬ا
[19:34] ‘And peace was on me the day I was born, and peace there will be on me the day I shall die, and the day I shall be raised up to life again.’
[19:35] ذَٲلِكَ عِيسَى ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَۚ قَوۡلَ ٱلۡحَقِّ ٱلَّذِى فِيهِ يَمۡتَرُونَ
[19:35] Such was Jesus, son of Mary. This is a statement of the truth about which they doubt.
[19:36] مَا كَانَ لِلَّهِ أَن يَتَّخِذَ مِن وَلَدٍ۬ۖ سُبۡحَـٰنَهُ ۥۤۚ إِذَا قَضَىٰٓ أَمۡرً۬ا فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ لَهُ ۥ كُن فَيَكُونُ
[19:36] It does not befit the Majesty of Allah to take unto Himself a son. Holy is He. When He decrees a thing, He says to it, ‘Be!’, and it is.
[19:37] وَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ رَبِّى وَرَبُّكُمۡ فَٱعۡبُدُوهُۚ هَـٰذَا صِرَٲطٌ۬ مُّسۡتَقِيمٌ۬
[19:37] Said Jesus: ‘Surely, Allah is my Lord, and your Lord. So worship Him alone; this is the right path.’
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=19&verse=36
I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
Hi
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim. We believe in Jesus and Mary from the truthful account of their life mentioned in Quran. Quran mentions of Mary and Jesus in many chapters. One such chapter is even named after her titled “Maryam” her name in Arabic form.
There is a strong similarity between the events of Jesus and his cousin John the Baptist , called Yahya in the Arabic form. I think you will enjoy it; I quote just some verses from Quran for your interest:
[19:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[19:2] Kaf Ha Ya ‘Ain Sad.
[19:3] This is an account of the mercy of thy Lord shown to His servant Zachariah,
[19:4] When he called upon his Lord in a low voice.
[19:5] He said, ‘My Lord, my bones have indeed become feeble and my head is all aflame with hoariness but never, my Lord, have I been unblessed in my prayer to Thee;
[19:6] ‘And I fear my relations after me, and my wife is barren. So grant me from Thyself a successor,
[19:7] ‘To be my heir and the heir of the blessings of the House of Jacob. And make him, my Lord, well-pleasing to Thee.’
[19:8] God said, ‘O Zachariah, We give thee glad tidings of a son whose name shall be Yahya. We have not called any one before him by that name.’
[19:9] He said, ‘My Lord, how shall I have a son when my wife is barren, and I have reached the extreme limit of old age?
[19:10] The angel bearing the revelation said, ‘So shall it be.’ But thy Lord says, ‘It is easy for ME, and indeed I created thee before, when thou wast nothing.’
[19:11] Zachariah said, ‘My Lord appoint for me a commandment.’ God said, ‘The commandment for thee is that thou shalt not speak to the people for three successive days and nights.’
[19:12] Then he came forth unto his people from the chamber and asked them in a low voice to glorify GOD morning and evening.
[19:13] God said, ‘O Yahya, hold fast the Book.’ And We gave him wisdom while yet a child,
[19:14] And tenderness of heart from US and purity, and he was pious,
[19:15] And dutiful towards his parents. And he was not haughty and rebellious.
[19:16] And peace was on him the day he was born, and the day he died, and peace will be on him the day he will be raised up to life again.
[19:17] And relate the story of Mary as mentioned in the Book, when she withdrew from her people to an eastern place;
[19:18] And screened herself off from them. Then We sent Our angel to her and he appeared to her in the form of a well proportioned man.
[19:19] She said, ‘I seek refuge with the Gracious God from thee if indeed thou dost fear Him.’
[19:20] The angel said, ‘I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may give thee glad tidings of a righteous son.’
[19:21] She said, ‘How can I have a son when no man has touched me, neither have I been unchaste?’
[19:22] The angel said, ‘Thus it shall be.’ But says thy Lord, ‘It is easy for ME; and We shall do so that We may make him a Sign unto men, and a mercy from US, and it is a thing decreed.’
[19:23] So she conceived him, and withdrew with him to a remote place.
[19:24] And the pains of child-birth drove her unto the trunk of a palm-tree. She said, ‘O, would that I had died before this and had become a thing quite forgotten!
[19:25] Then the angel called her from beneath her, saying, ‘Grieve not. Thy Lord has placed a rivulet below thee;
[19:26] ‘And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree; it will drop upon thee fresh ripe dates;
[19:27] ‘So, eat and drink and cool thine eye. And if thou seest any man, say, ‘I have vowed a fast to the Gracious God; I will, therefore, not speak this day to any human being.’
[19:28] Then she brought him to her people, mounted. They said, ‘O Mary, surely, thou hast committed a monstrous thing!
[19:29] ‘O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a wicked man, nor was thy mother an unchaste woman!’
[19:30] Thereupon she pointed to him. They said, ‘How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?’
http://www3.alislam.org/showChapter.jsp?ch=19&verse=20
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This is to create friendship between the Christians and the Muslims.
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