Paarsurrey says:
WordPress.com has informed me that someone referred my blog via Search Engine Terms and desired of me to provide the information as to what is the significance of “Nicodemus (bringing) 75 lbs aloe and myrrh”when Jesus was laid in the Armithea’s tomb after the event of Crucifixion.
I preferred to use internet search engine for ( nicodemus 75 lbs aloe and myrrh).
From the entries which came to surface, I have selected some to present before the readers of this blog:
Research Results
• Nine Articles by Luis Silva – Jesus
… and thorax during violent treatment (75 … They refer to the 100 lb. Of aromatic substances which Nicodemus procured (John 19 … The Gospels mention that an aloe and myrrh was used.
o http://www.globusz.com/ebooks/LuisSilva/00000016.htm
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• Newsvine – Yoga at school causes stress among some
Nicodemus brought 75 lbs of aloes and myrrh to Jesus’s tomb. What was this for? It wasn’t for embalming, Jewish tradition forbids embalming. Aloe is one of the best natural …
o xoxchi.newsvine.com/_news/2008/10/03/1950880-yoga-at-school-causes-stress-among-some
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• The Society of Christ and Magazine
… close to six feet long (1,8 m) and weighed about 66 lb … us that in this Joseph of Arimathea was aided by Nicodemus, who brought with him about one hundred pounds of myrrh and aloe.
o http://www.loveoneanothermagazine.org/pdfs/pdfs_mag_eng/LOA_000-pilot.pdf
• Cached page
I clicked the second item of research: Newsvine – Yoga at school causes stress among some , the discussion took a turn and the item of our research became the issue:
http://xoxchi.newsvine.com/_news/2008/10/03/1950880-yoga-at-school-causes-stress-among-some
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What makes you think Jesus didn’t do yoga? What makes you think “god” is so limited as to be threatened by another way of approaching spirituality? And, what makes you think that the Christian doctrine of following the son to the father so as to be one with him is not similar to extinguishing the ego self into the Brahman state?
Why are fundamentalists so literal? I mean, really, what would Jesus think of such narrow mindedness and intolerance?
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#29 – Sat Oct 4, 2008 11:36 AM EDT
Uthaclena
Why are fundamentalists so literal?
I would suspect that there is something very tribal or “Us vs. “Them” for some people, both from the way they have been raised, and perhaps some biological tendencies as well. You see this territorialness in other animal species, not just among us humans. Also, note that some people love new ideas and concepts and experiment with alternatives, and other people such things make them fearful, creaqte what psychology calls “cognitive dissonance,” and they actively reject them. Maybe something biochemical, like variations in stimulus or pain thresholds?
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#29.1 – Sat Oct 4, 2008 12:32 PM EDT
XNihil0Zer0
Yeah you’d think they’d be more understanding considering Jesus survived the crucifixion and travelled to Kashmir. Srinagar is a mainly hindu and buddhist city so I’m sure he was exposed to plenty of yoga before he died.
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#29.2 – Sat Oct 4, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
mdbrda
I think you should check your facts
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#29.3 – Sat Oct 4, 2008 5:19 PM EDT
XNihil0Zer0
Against what O’ Master of Facts?
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#29.4 – Sat Oct 4, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
mdbrda
The Bible, perhaps?
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#29.5 – Sat Oct 4, 2008 5:43 PM EDT
XNihil0Zer0
So that’s the big book O’ facts?
I like the fact that the bible says Jesus died only six hours after being on the cross. For death to occur this quickly the legs must be broken causing the victim to asphyxiate. Jesus never had his legs broken. No, Jesus “died” immediatly after drinking from a sponge filled with “vinegar”. Now, medicine in those days wasn’t nearly as advanced as it is today, but they knew about the anesthetic qualities of plants such as opium poppies and belladonna. Can you think of a better way to raise your savior from the dead than knocking him out and having him wake up again? Nicodemus brought 75 lbs of aloes and myrrh to Jesus’s tomb. What was this for? It wasn’t for embalming, Jewish tradition forbids embalming. Aloe is one of the best natural treatments to heal wounds. Why would you want to heal a dead body?
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#29.6 – Sat Oct 4, 2008 6:15 PM EDT
MLIL
But Jesus didn’t follow Jewish tradition. He worked on the Sabbath and constantly shot down the teachings of the Scribes and Pharisees. These people thought of Jesus as a king, and what better way to honor a beloved, murdered king than to clean and treat his wounds, and yes, embalm him? Also, there’s no mention of how long after drinking the vinegar he died. The vinegar was given to Jesus to drink by the soldiers that crucified him, to mock his thirst, not by his followers. And, to make sure he was dead, the soldiers who broke the legs of the two thieves crucified next to Jesus, when they saw that he wasn’t moving, put a spear through his side, so if he was faking he wouldn’t live. Even if he was just unconcious, a stab wound to the side, even a fairly shallow one (which I’m sure this one wasn’t) would most likely have punctured any number of vital organs, and he would have either bled out or died of sepsis during the three days he was in the tomb.
Nice theories, but they don’t really work out, now do they?
That said, I don’t think that Jesus or God would ever have a problem with Yoga, if anything Jesus taught tolerance.
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#29.7 – Sat Oct 4, 2008 6:31 PM EDT
XNihil0Zer0
That the best you’ve got? Longinus the centurion who supervised the crucifixion of Jesus became a bishop in the early church according to the Acta Pilati. What a sweet deal, I wonder how he worked that one out? The original Greek word for the thrust by the soldier is nyssein. That word does not suggest a forceful thrust. The word means a light scratch, or a light puncture of the skin. It was a test for a reaction, not to ensure death. One of the best natural ways to prevent sepsis in a superficial wound is to treat it with aloe. Myrrh is also antiinflamitory and antiseptic. The soldiers did not give Jesus the vinegar people from the crowd around him did.
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#29.8 – Sat Oct 4, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
XNihil0Zer0
John 19:40 “They took the body of Jesus and wrapped it in linen cloths along with spices, according to the burial custom of the Jews.”
The burial customs of the Jews have not changed in 3500 years. The body is not to be touched except by giving it a ritual bath called a tahara, standing for purity and then the body is put in the ground in the quickest most simple fashion available with only traditional burial shrouds.
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#29.9 – Sat Oct 4, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
Uthaclena
XNihil0Zer0:
The points that you are arguing seem very reminiscent of the 1965 book “The Passover Plot” by Hugh Schonfield.
That being said, there really seems to be little actual evidence one way or the other after two thousand years.
Some of the apocryphal suggestions that Jesus traveled into India and studied mystic traditions there are found in the 1908 book “The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ” Again, rather thin on evidence, I am afraid.
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#29.10 – Sat Oct 4, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
XNihil0Zer0
That’s why arguments like this are so fun. With so little credible evidence on either side, I can match BS point for point. Watch:
Jesus is buried is a tomb called Rauzabal in the city of Srinagar. Local tradition states that the entombed was a prophet of Ahle-Kitab, or People of the Book, and his name was Isa – the Quranic name for Jesus. The prophet Yuz Asaf came to Kashmir from the West (Holy Land) in the reign of Raja Gopdatta (c 1st century A.D) according to the ancient official documents held by the current custodian of the tomb.
One book, Bhavishya Maha Purana (written in Sanskrit) contains an account of a king of India, Salivahana meeting “Isa-Masiha” (Jesus the Messiah)- a religious personage of fair complexion who was a foreigner.
“The king asked the holy man who he was. The other replied: ‘I am called a son of God, born of a virgin, minister of the non-believers, relentless in search of the truth.”
“..and I was called Isa-Masiha”
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#29.11 – Sat Oct 4, 2008 7:59 PM EDT
Uthaclena
XNihil0Zer0:
That’s why arguments like this are so fun. With so little credible evidence on either side, I can match BS point for point.
That’s fine, but would you do us the favor or either referring to the source or providing a link? I find arguing to be much more stimulating if there is a reference. You never know where that will lead later!
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#29.12 – Sat Oct 4, 2008 11:37 PM EDT
http://xoxchi.newsvine.com/_news/2008/10/03/1950880-yoga-at-school-causes-stress-among-some
Note. For more detail on the subject, please view my following posts:
Value of myrrh and aloe brought by Nicodemus
https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/value-of-myrrh-and-aloe-brought-by-nicodemus-2/
https://paarsurrey.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/value-of-myrrh-and-aloe-brought-by-nicodemus/
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